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Galvin is the most below average player, there's no way anyone with half a brain cell thinks he's a better player than Talagi.

Yeah maybe you're right, it's possible he could work with Madden. I just don't like Doueihi in the centres or giving him less game time coming off the bench as lock and having to give Twal less minutes.

They get paid on average $450k a year to win games. They should be content with whatever will get them the results on the field. They seem to do better with Madden on the field. But maybe it could all work out and Luai could be a $1.2 million back seat five-eighth with Madden winning us games...

Yeah I included Jock, I just included him with Doueihi instead. Doueihi won't get his hands on the ball enough at centre and the positional attack is way different at centre than it is playing at 6. It's just what has worked for us so stick with it for now. If anything Doueihi off the bench at...

I'm not moving the goal posts, it's just true. Stats don't tell everything, try assists mean nothing when the overall attack is worse. Talagi has played his hand in a lot of tries that aren't recorded as try assists for him on the stat sheet. He doesn't kill his team's attacking momentum like...

Yeah because stats tell everything. Maybe they should find a stat about overall attacking momentum and the ability to not kill all momentum in attack and get the ball out to a player in an attacking situation that then leads to them setting up another player, but the stats don't record that...

True I guess, pretty common with young players. He's still an overall better player than Luai even as it stands now.

I'm not talking about what happened last year I'm talking about this year. Yeah Penrith went backwards when Luai left but then they had an exceptional second half of the year with Talagi and they've had an exceptional start to this year with Talagi. You can't judge him on his early performances...

Are you actually being serious with that last statement or is that satire? What games have you been watching? Talagi has been exceptional for Penrith this season and a lot of people would agree that Penrith are looking the best they've ever looked, in their first 5 games at least.

Yeah I completely forgot Walker was a Queenslander my bad.

I think you're delusional to say that Luai and Doueihi are light years ahead of Talagi. No way an origin selector would pick Doueihi ahead of Talagi at five-eighth especially with Cleary. And a Moses and Cleary combination just wouldn't work, neither would Walker. Read my post again and process...

Who are they going to put with Cleary then? Sam Walker? Luai again? Moses? I don't know what games of football you have been watching but Penrith have looked the best they've ever looked with Talagi and Cleary despite all the big names they've lost. And if they went with Luai the first time...

Moses won it for us over the 80 minutes.

Moses won us that State of Origin. And that was one game, they've looked the best they've ever looked before that.

They picked Luai in State of Origin because the Penrith formula was working so well and didn't want Cleary to have to spend time building a connection with a different five-eighth, it's really that simple. It was even painted that way in the media and the selectors openly stated that was a big...

What I replied to @Tiger-ferret

So being admired because he's at a club with all of his old mates makes him a good player? Played 5 grand finals with Nathan Cleary steering the ship then came to us and did nothing (they're a better side now with Talagi than they were with Luai.) Is overpaid on $1.2 million (Ivan Cleary thought...

They can eat some concrete and harden up. They're on an average yearly salary of $450k between the 30 of them. They're professional athletes in the NRL, this isn't highschool dynamics. I'm more so thinking of the best and most efficient way to win 13 games in a row than peoples feelings. They...

We do have a choice, he has a get out clause if he's unhappy not playing. Team first. We don't have to back a player that hasn't gotten us any results his whole time of being here then we magically get them with another player.

But he's our captain on $1.2 million a season, if the team goes backwards as soon as he comes back and their attack disappears it's a little concerning. That's normally something that doesn't happen with players of that price tag, it's usually the opposite.