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Whats happened to Ethan Roberts??

1. Clear 6 again missed on Koroisau 2. Clear escort on Makasini Then they score off it. It's so predictable.

We don't help ourselves with the errors but we touched the ball twice in the first 10 minutes. No team is overcoming that.

It's so tiresome watching this crap from the refs.

Must be something off the field with Roberts because he looked like he had potential in his first game for us.

2. Turuva 3. Averillo 4. May 5. Makasini I think that works well. As for the Averillo v To'a debate ... at this stage Averillo is more reliable. Until To'a can put together a few games in a row that prove he's willing to apply himself in defence and that his body isn't totally busted, then we...

Averillo is a good centre and capable fill in at 5/8th or fullback. I would not be signing him to play 6. Katoa I dont think we'll get but he'd be an amazing buy if we did.

Skelton has his faults but he's a decent finisher and is good at carting it up for a winger. Tino gets belted on just about every hit up, which makes Skelton's carries even more important. Turuva is clearly our best winger but he's probably our best centre too until May gets back. So while I...

Incredible try saver at the end but was great in defence throughout. If he defends like this all the time then there's definitely a spot in first grade for him.

To'a winning us the game with his defence lol. You couldn't script this

The issue I have with Tavana isn't necessarily the errors he made. That was diabolical, but you can just have shockers like that. The issue is he's too small and weak in his carries on the wing. He needs to put some size on. It's why I'd rather risk Skelton who is generally more error prone...

Why drop Luke L? I don't love moving Turuva from the wing, but we did well with him earlier in the year in the centres. Roberts should be in the 19.

Of course there's no excuses for our performance, but we can improve that, especially when we get troops back. What's the solution if the refs just keep screwing us over? Unless we bring attention to it, it will just keep happening.

Obviously we were awful, especially defensively, but Benji absolutely has to say something about the standard of refereeing. Even to impartial observers it was plainly obvious that just about every way in which the referee could rule in Manly's favour, they did. When we play poorly and we're...

That's only a sin bin against us.

Our right edge is a disaster without Bula and Doueihi.

There's no point with this kind of refereeing.

This is a joke. Benji needs to say something about the refs.

Murray at 9 and Latu off the bench makes more sense but getting Hope out is a positive.

It makes no sense that people are being critical of him now in performances where we've been totally thumped across the park that has nothing to do with him, but defended him when we had all the ball in the world in attacking position and produced nothing. He is what he is and he's performed...