They had a go tonight. However, when you have three teammates who were directly responsible for souths running in four tries, hopeless referees, shocking, shocking ball control and about thirty percent of the ball, the result is not surprising.
I have been banging on all season that the three players concerned should never be anywhere near the first grade team. Tonight I was proven to be correct.
Two of the three are with us next year. I seriously doubt they are even competent enough for reserves.
Name and shame.
Eiso, Aloiai and Sue, they would be the 3, although Fonua missed a stack of tackles as well
Yep me too. I think their heads will be on the plane for the end of season trip and they will be trying to protect their bodies from getting any bad injuries that could prevent them from going on the trip. It makes sense to me.
All teams are vulnerable on the edges, just look where the majority of tries are scored against any team. We, however, have been amongst, if not the worst of all but over the last month or so there has been an improvement for us and opposition sides can no longer make the assumption that they’ll score simply by going to our edges. We’re still not great in this aspect but next year with a higher quality roster we should be as good as most.
With the younger and less experienced players like Marsters, Twal, Eisenhuth, Alioia all coming along well. It’s going to make it hard for the more experienced players like McQueen, Lawrence, Sue, Grant, ET to make the 17.
I’d even suggest Lolohea has outplayed Reynolds at 5/8 this year.
Hooker and Fullback are probably the two positions we have the least amount of depth in.
Hopefully the young guys stand up again in the last game of the year and make for an extra competitive off season.
Those stats from Eisenhuth and Alioia are softening the blow of losing Woods metres and defence.
Like Willow said if Alioia and Marsters keep up that impact it’s hard to see ET starting. Good problem to have.
You guys kill me - “it’s hard to see ET starting”
He would be the first forward picked…… Marsters? hasn’t even played in the forwards yet.
I’d leave Marsters in the centre good defender powerful and has a good offload.
He’s only young give him a few years in the centre then transition him to the back row.
On the Tui-Nofo debate, Nofo was running off Teddy, which considering we run 99% of our attacking movements through him isn’t unreasonable. Marsters was up running a decoy off Lolohea and so the depth was completely out of whack. Like most have said, if Tui looks or just double pumps, we probably get there. Nofo could have been up in the line, but I’m not going to begrudge him running off Tedesco.
On the game as a whole, the class difference was obvious, but it just seemed like we slipped back in to old habits. We were in the grind for 60 minutes and then fell off a cliff. I wonder if the last few weeks made them think they had this whole first grade thing figured out and the game would keep going at the same rate. Seemed like we didn’t expect a push from the Cowboys at all.
Wasn’t sure of the forward rotation either, seemed to be lots of chopping and changing, which I wonder if that contributed to the uncertainty.
The major problem I have with that is that Tedesco rarely passes the ball until his own situation is hopeless. Nofo knew he should have been there to take the pass that had created a try, just as Sandercock and Cleary did.
MCK gave the cows the rope to climb from the cliff that the Tigers play had kept them at the base of till that point of the half and they gleefully took it with both hands to begin their “push” on the back of all the possession.
Of course he should have been there. Several players threw their arms up and judging their actions it wasn’t at Tui. Moses does it every week and his wingers are always ready for it
Actually people tonights game could be a real test of how resilient this team is and we will see how well we can improvise without wonder “overhyped” boy Brooks in the side…If JLJ gets to start in the halves,I hope he has a good game and Tui leads the team around the park…many don’t rate JLJ,but while Ivan selects him then he gets my full support as part of this team going forwards…the last month has made me even more supportive of coach Cleary,he has instilled confidence and faith into a team of basically fringe first graders who are playing well as a unit…
I often wonder who ‘overhyped’ Brooks…certainly not the player himself…or previous Coaches…In fact Ivan came out recently and stated that the labelling of Brooks as with any young player is unfair…
I do agree with what you have said regarding Brooks that Clearly stated,however if you go back to when Brooks entered the NRL squad as halfback with Moses,the club did say that they were brilliant and would be our future…. That would be where the overhype would have come from…Moses showed us his cards and at least Brooks stayed and has been improving slowly without setting the world on fire regarding playing a leading playmakers role…hopefully next year he has a booming year for us…
Wests Tigers forward Sauaso Sue will become the 20th player to play 100 first-grade games for the Club when he takes to Campbelltown Sports Stadium this Friday.
The Macquarie Fields Hawks junior has developed over time to be a vital cog in the Wests Tigers engine room with his versatility to play big minutes in the middle or edge.
However, what’s also developed in Sue’s game over the past year or so is the knack for finding the try-line. In his first 73 games, Sue had just two tries to his name, but has scored eight in his last 24 to sit with a tally of 10 career tries. More than that, however, has been the importance of his tries, with the big man crashing over on vital occasions.
And that’s what we’ll look at here — not necessarily the try itself, but the occasion and the importance of Sue crossing the try-line and what it meant for his Wests Tigers.
5. Wests Tigers v New Zealand Warriors — Round 25, 2016
Coming off a last start loss to the Penrith Panthers, Wests Tigers needed to win both of their remaining games in 2016 in order to have any shot at qualifying for their first finals appearance since 2011. What stood in their way was a high-octane New Zealand Warriors side desperate to deliver on the lofty expectations many had for them in 2016, and buoyed by a vocal Mount Smart Stadium crowd on the day. Rocked by sickness during the week, Wests Tigers quickly fell behind on the scoreboard as Bodene Thompson crashed over, and could have been forgiven for thinking their unlikely finals run was coming to an end. However, nobody told Sue that, as the big man combined with front rower Aaron Woods to crash over early in the first half and level the scores. It might not have seemed like a big moment at the time, but it certainly paved the way for a belief in Wests Tigers that day that they could indeed pull off the unlikely upset. More on how that ended up transpiring to come later in this Top Five at Five…
4. Wests Tigers v Canberra Raiders — Round 22, 2015
Heading to the nation’s capital needing to win to get off the bottom of the ladder, Wests Tigers came up against a Raiders outfit desperate to secure two points to keep their own finals hopes alive. In what was expected to be a showcase of two attacking teams, it didn’t take Wests Tigers long to get the scoring underway with the man of the moment, Sauaso Sue, crashing through Blake Austin and the Raiders’ defence to set the tone for the evening. Wests Tigers would go on to stun the home side 20-18, with the two points secured on that night the difference between Wests Tigers avoiding the wooden spoon.
3. Wests Tigers v New Zealand Warriors — Round 25, 2016
Back to our game before, and with Wests Tigers trailing by six points and time running out, something needed to happen for the Club to have any shot at making the finals. Up stepped Sue, running on to a short ball and barging his way through two attempted tackles, before beating Roger Tuivasa-Sheck on the line and rounding his way under the posts — giving the visitors a simple conversion to level the match and set up a dramatic finish with two late tries keeping Wests Tigers in the hunt for an unlikely finals finish.
Down 20-6 at half-time, few gave Wests Tigers a chance to come back against the Sea Eagles when they met a fortnight ago at Leichhardt Oval. But thanks to a new belief instilled in the squad under Ivan Cleary, the home side rallied in the second half and soon stormed their way back in to the contest. Down by eight points with 10 minutes remaining, a determined run from Sauaso Sue took him through the tackle of former teammate Martin Taupau and two other defenders — beating fullback Tom Trbojevic to the line. With the conversion successful and the home side full of momentum following Sue’s try, the Club’s biggest comeback win in seven years would be complete moments later as Malakai Watene-Zelezniak crossed in the corner to ensure a 30-26 victory.
1. Wests Tigers v North Queensland Cowboys — Round 22, 2016
All but down and out of the finals race in 2016, wins against the Dragons and Eels the two weeks beforehand had given Wests Tigers a sniff of hope to still make the top eight, but standing in their way would be the defending premiers in North Queensland. Leichhardt Oval turned on a cracking Sunday afternoon and the footy soon followed, with both sides locked in an engrossing encounter. However, with the game in the balance and Wests Tigers holding on to a slender lead late on, it was Sue who popped up again close to the line — charging his way through the defence before planting it down under pressure from Lachlan Coote. Sue’s try send the home crowd in to a noise even Leichhardt Oval was surprised by — a voracious roar with the knowledge that Wests Tigers had won three in a row and were still alive in the hunt for a top eight finish.