A simple equation: Tigers must make finals or 2011 will be Sheens's last

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THE reign of Tim Sheens as Wests Tigers coach will come to an end if the club fails to make the finals this year.

Sheens, whose tenure at the joint venture club was recently extended for another 12 months, will go into the 2011 season knowing it is his last in charge of the Tigers if they do not feature in this year's play-offs.

Tigers chief executive Stephen Humphreys confirmed the arrangement that would seal Sheens's fate if the club misses the top eight as speculation swirled around the coach and his players in the wake of Sunday's 50-10 thrashing by South Sydney.

However, Humphreys remained confident the Tigers would qualify for the finals and insisted harmony within the club was strong. ''Tim is aware that if we do not make the finals this year then next year will be his last in charge of Wests Tigers. That is an understanding we have with Tim,'' Humphreys said. ''Hopefully that is a situation that does not arise.''

In seven previous seasons under Sheens, the Tigers have made the finals just once - in 2005 - but they won the premiership that year.

Sheens, who also took Canberra to three grand final wins in 1989, 1990 and 1994, enjoys strong support from his players - and in particular star playmaker Benji Marshall.

Humphreys said no one took Sunday's loss harder than Marshall, who told the Herald after recently committing to the Tigers for a further five years that he never wanted to play for another club.

It is understood that Marshall was still upset yesterday and had several discussions with Sheens and Humphreys as they tried to determine how to put an end to a four-game losing streak.

''Everyone within the club took the loss incredibly hard and Benji probably more than anyone,'' Humphreys said. ''He was absolutely devastated after the game.''

Tigers insiders say Marshall's reaction to the defeat should quell rumours he was still unhappy with the club over a fine imposed several weeks ago on the New Zealand captain for being late to training.

Marshall's manager Martin Tauber also rejected any suggestion the fine would have had an impact on his performance. ''The fine was weeks ago and it had nothing to do with his performance or the team's performance,'' Tauber said.

Meanwhile, the Tigers' injury list continues to grow with back-rower Liam Fulton and centre Blake Ayshford the latest casualties.

Fulton is expected to miss up to six weeks with a right shoulder injury, while Ayshford will be out for four weeks with a groin injury. They join props Keith Galloway and Jason Cayless, fullback Tim Moltzen and wingers Taniela Tuiaki and Tame Tupou on the sidelines.

In other injury news, South Sydney captain Roy Asotasi will miss up to four weeks with a shoulder injury suffered in the defeat of the Tigers.

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@Kul said:
the moths will be happy

Aren't you happy to hear this? I reckon he should walk away at the end of this year if we don't make the finals this year.
 

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Makes the one-year extension even more stupid. It means if they miss out this year we'll have a lame-duck coach for 12 months unless he does the right thing and walks, which I highly doubt.
 

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So why isn't the captain having in depth talks with coach & ceo who is leading this team!!
 

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I always thought that Payten should have been given the captaincy after Prince left. At the time he was one of the real leaders of the team and a senior player but in hindsight I'm not sure that would have been a good decision, considering his injury problems and the issue when he asked for a release.
 

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You always know your job is on the line when the boss comes out and publicly supports you and your current contract.
I read the article as saying, Sheens job is on the line for the rest of this year unless things improve.
 
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If the Tigers don't make the finals this year, I really don't see the point of keeping Sheens for 2011\. Mick Potter and Nathan Brown are returning from England later this year so there are alternative options out there the Tigers should start enquiring about should the team choke once again.
 

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@Kul said:
the moths will be happy

They were obviously so wrong about it all.

Imagine if we had have listened to them at the end of 2007, we'd have missed out on the last 3 seasons of pure, unadulterated success.
 

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not good enough

if we dont make the 8 this year Sheens should walk. what will be different next year? NOTHING
 

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pffft. Big deal. How about 2010 will be his last if we don't make it? Talk about trying to squeeze blood out of a stone. Pathetic. Club doesn't have the guts to put the pressure on him. Like everyone says, Sheens is a protected species.
The Tigers are pretty much saying to fans, you have to put up with another season and a half of mediocre performances before anything changes and in return, club memberships will then hit an all time low next year if this happens.
 

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That is absolutely ridiculous. So we dont make the finals this year and somehow we make it next year, whats to say Humphreys will change his mind and keep Sheens and the cycle rolls on.
 

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The grand old duke of York he" marched them up to the top of the hill and marched them down". Thats our man Sheens, he has not completed the job yet we are only half way down the hill. He will probably need 2011 to get to the bottom and complete his contract.

Every day this farce goes on more damage is being done. W e have a very resilient brand name and to be still so strong in the market place is a miracle given the past four years. The trouble is, when you start loosing ground it can all go belly up very very quickly and its a lot easier to turn things around when your on strong ground away from the football field than to try and do it when the clubs in tatters
 

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@simonthetiger said:
I reckon we should sack Folkes.

They dont look fit enough for me.

Ah simon, still making excuses for Sheens after all these years. Now its our strength and conditioning coach that is to blame. :laughing:

So why in your opinion does Folkes get the sack after just 10 games and Sheens still gets a free reign and no blame or criticism put on him for five years of under performance?
 

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Sarcasm obviously isnt your strong point.

But please keep the Sheens rage going….you must be loving this.

:laughing:
 
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