Adam Doueihi #227

[Lebanese_Coach_aspiration]

I think the Dogs HR manager JAC was busy spreading the word amongst the Aussie Boys

And there was a report in the news that Thompson was doing the same in the England camp too. Kid you not.

 

[Earl]

Currently we need AD for 23 we have zero options / backup plans are thin as anything unless we pull a miracle off and get MM for 23 which I doubt. He is the best we have currently.

He is a critical player for us. If he has a big year and proves himself we'll have a good season.

 

[Lebanese_Coach_aspiration]

He tore Manly Warringah apart a
couple times, iced a kick from the
touchline too, broke Nth QLD's line for
the To'a try that should have won
the match. Played 1st XV rugby
In year 11, Australian schoolboy.
Came off an ACL but contributed
well in '22. Had a good campaign
for Lebanon in the world cup.
Local boy living in Strathfield.
Came back to the club after we
let him go. 900k is speculation.

Remember there was an article (from Buzz I think?) that said a rival half was calling the dogs ? The pieces fit completely with what I heard that it is Adam leb.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

It is. I'll be told I'm hypocrite for this but a guy I trust on this forum stated that Sheens said both Hastings and Doueihi had asked for that amount. Admittedly it's in the initial negotiations stage. I assume this is true because the club wanted to re-sign all of them but the deals never happened.

My mate was the wrestling coach under Madge and he never gave me inside information like this. I don't think he had that information. Him and Madge also got along really well. I can confirm he has been punted under the new coaching staff though. He told me Sheens spoke to him and what was stated. Maybe there is something about Hastings and Doueihi being big supporters of Madge.

More likely Sheens and Marshall refused to guarantee 6 or 7 jerseys (and requisite $). Marshall would know.

 

[Halbrowne61]

And there was a report in the news that Thompson was doing the same in the England camp too. Kid you not.

Yes, I saw that too. Under instruction from Ciraldo/ Gould no doubt, call it personalised, indirect recruiting.

 

[Halbrowne61]

More likely Sheens and Marshall refused to guarantee 6 or 7 jerseys (and requisite $). Marshall would know.

First rule of negotiating, always float high early,
You can always come down but virtually never go up.
But you have to have something that buyers want, and are prepared to pay your required price for.

 

[Kaito]

Remember there was an article (from Buzz I think?) that said a rival half was calling the dogs ? The pieces fit completely with what I heard that it is Adam leb.

Pure speculation as it stands. I
don't give a shit about buzz haha.
AD is a tiger in 2023, that's it bro

 

[Earl]

More likely Sheens and Marshall refused to guarantee 6 or 7 jerseys (and requisite $). Marshall would know.

We'll never know. Here is the thing though. If Doueihi performs next season and surely he is going to have no excuses then the situation changes pretty quickly.

We sound like we are going to have a good pack for our halves to play behind. Doueihi hasn't been given heaps of opportunities but there are no other options next season.

 

[Earl]

Remember there was an article (from Buzz I think?) that said a rival half was calling the dogs ? The pieces fit completely with what I heard that it is Adam leb.

It probably is. He is acting as his own manager. It sort of what he has to do. I'm cool with it. You think Brooksy manager wasn't harassing other clubs.

 

[Halbrowne61]

We'll never know. Here is the thing though. If Doueihi performs next season and surely he is going to have no excuses then the situation changes pretty quickly.

We sound like we are going to have a good pack for our halves to play behind. Doueihi hasn't been given heaps of opportunities but there are no other options next season.

As before Earl, a lot of it revolves around Moses. If he comes I can see him at 7, Brooks at 6 and Douhei in the centres.

 

[WesternSuburbsBoy]

Adam Doueihi 2020 Stats: 20 games 6 tries 7 try assists 155m avg running metres

Adam Doueihi 2021 Stats: (his first year at his preferred position playing 5/8) 20 games 9 tries 17 try assists 106m avg running metres

Adam Doueihi 2022 Stats: (returning from an ACL injury & a team fighting for the spoon, also played some games at centre) 11 games 2 tries 4 try assists 104 avg running metres

Now let's look at Brooks.
Luke Brooks 2020 Stats: 17 games 4 tries 3 try assists (shocking for a half really) 82 avg running metres

Luke Brooks 2021 Stats: 24 games 1 try 16 try assists (AD outperforms him in less games) 98 avg running metres

Luke Brooks 2022 Stats: 17 games played 2 tries 10 try assists 74 avg running metres

The only year Brooks has outperformed him was the season he came back from an ACL injury but majority on here think Brooks deserves another chance while AD doesn't? At the end of the day AD's 3 years younger then Brooks, shown that he's a serious attacking threat while playing 5/8, has outperformed Brooks when healthy & playing his natural position but AD is the one who should be shafted... seriously doesn't make any sense to me. His asking price is pure speculation at this point & some guy on here is making up crap from what someone delivering him chicken LOL. Also all the excuses about Brooks playing behind a weak forward pack why can't the same be used for AD? I mean they're both playing in the halves....

 

[Mighty_Tiger]

He is a critical player for us. If he has a big year and proves himself we'll have a good season.

I actually don't want him gone and think he can add value, just needs to work for him & us position/cost wise 24+.

For 23 I think he is our best 5/8th and probably our best fullback and centre option also.
In the Sheens attacking structures which do often feature fullbacks running the ball I think AD in that direct running fullback roll would be lethal.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

We'll never know. Here is the thing though. If Doueihi performs next season and surely he is going to have no excuses then the situation changes pretty quickly.

We sound like we are going to have a good pack for our halves to play behind. Doueihi hasn't been given heaps of opportunities but there are no other options next season.

That would be good for Doueihi for finding another club. It is only my view but it appears the club has plans for the half positions.

 

[Mighty_Tiger]

The only year Brooks has outperformed him was the season he came back from an ACL injury but majority on here think Brooks deserves another chance while AD doesn't? At the end of the day AD's 3 years younger then Brooks, shown that he's a serious attacking threat while playing 5/8, has outperformed Brooks when healthy & playing his natural position but AD is the one who should be shafted... seriously doesn't make any sense to me. His asking price is pure speculation at this point & some guy on here is making up crap from what someone delivering him chicken LOL. Also all the excuses about Brooks playing behind a weak forward pack why can't the same be used for him.... I mean they're both playing in the halves.

I don't think the majority want Brooks to have yet another chance, think we are resigned to it happening if it means we get Moses on board.

 

[WesternSuburbsBoy]

I don't think the majority want Brooks to have yet another chance, think we are resigned to it happening if it means we get Moses on board.

Even before all the Moses chatter started happening all the talk was about Brooks finally having a good forward pack to play behind & how AD is not a 5/8….

 

[Earl]

Adam Doueihi 2020 Stats: 20 games 6 tries 7 try assists 155m avg running metres

Adam Doueihi 2021 Stats: (his first year at his preferred position playing 5/8) 20 games 9 tries 17 try assists 106m avg running metres

Adam Doueihi 2022 Stats: (returning from an ACL injury & a team fighting for the spoon, also played some games at centre) 11 games 2 tries 4 try assists 104 avg running metres

Now let's look at Brooks.
Luke Brooks 2020 Stats: 17 games 4 tries 3 try assists (shocking for a half really) 82 avg running metres

Luke Brooks 2021 Stats: 24 games 1 try 16 try assists (AD outperforms him in less games) 98 avg running metres

Luke Brooks 2022 Stats: 17 games played 2 tries 10 try assists 74 avg running metres

The only year Brooks has outperformed him was the season he came back from an ACL injury but majority on here think Brooks deserves another chance while AD doesn't? At the end of the day AD's 3 years younger then Brooks, shown that he's a serious attacking threat while playing 5/8, has outperformed Brooks when healthy & playing his natural position but AD is the one who should be shafted... seriously doesn't make any sense to me. His asking price is pure speculation at this point & some guy on here is making up crap from what someone delivering him chicken LOL. Also all the excuses about Brooks playing behind a weak forward pack why can't the same be used for AD? I mean they're both playing in the halves....

This is an awesome post.

The problem is it doesn't include defense. I just checked his tackle efficiency and it's higher than Brooks as well. 87% to 84.3%. His average kicking metres was higher and Brooks had 7 to 4 forced drop outs.

You don't see everything in those stats but it's a good way to view the situation. It takes the emotion/expectations out of the situation. I had really high expectations for Doueihi last season and low for Brooks. Maybe I've been too harsh on Doueihi.

 

[WesternSuburbsBoy]

This is an awesome post.

The problem is it doesn't include defense. I just checked his tackle efficiency and it's higher than Brooks as well. 87% to 84.3%. His average kicking metres was higher and Brooks had 7 to 4 forced drop outs.

You don't see everything in those stats but it's a good way to view the situation. It takes the emotion/expectations out of the situation. I had really high expectations for Doueihi last season and low for Brooks. Maybe I've been too harsh on Doueihi.

Brooks has been an average defender for majority of his career as well.

 

[Earl]

Even before all the Moses chatter started happening all the talk was about Brooks finally having a good forward pack to play behind & how AD is not a 5/8….

My take is that they are both running 6's. It was interesting reading Doueihi's run metres at fullback as well. He was getting plenty of metres for us.

 

[Earl]

Brooks has been an average defender for majority of his career as well.

He is decent for a half especially in a team like ours that gets smashed. Halves are typically the worst defenders in the game so it's not exactly a compliment.

I don't think Brooks is that bad. I just think he needs to be given a specific role but if it's a choice between AD and Brooks those stats appear to be pretty clear cut.

 

[WesternSuburbsBoy]

He is decent for a half especially in a team like ours that gets smashed. Halves are typically the worst defenders in the game so it's not exactly a compliment.

I don't think Brooks is that bad. I just think he needs to be given a specific role but if it's a choice between AD and Brooks those stats appear to be pretty clear cut.

If AD’s rumoured asking price is true then he can leave I couldn’t care less, my issue is with everyone in here making it out as if he’s been some terrible buy while Brooks is afforded every excuse under the sun. Also discrediting how good AD has actually been for us at times. Yes he was poor at times this season but think back to that Broncos game where he busts the line from the scrum & scores in 75th minute to ice the game for us. That to me shows me the type of player AD can be for us.