Big scorelines bad advertisement for the game

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Man some of these scorelines this year are not a good look on the game. I can't remember a year when there have been so many one-sided games. 68-4 Storm beat the Raiders and us 36-6\. All that after the Cowboys were up 30-0 on the Rabbitohs, Manly thrashed Parra 40-6 and Roosters destroyed Penrith 42-6\. Even Parra put 40 on the Warriors in the first round.
 
It doesn't make sense though because a lot of teams have both received and dished out hidings. think Warriors, smashed by 60 then smash Broncos by 50 and Raiders also thrashed Melbourne earlier this year then just had their rectum reconstructed.
 
I mentioned this in another thread a while ago. So far this season, these are the results where a side has won by 20+;

Eels beat Warriors 40-10
Panthers beat Raiders 32-10
Knights beat Tigers 42-10
Storm beat Cowboys 32-10
Titans beat Raiders 36-0
Eagles beat Knights 32-0
Sharks beat Warriors 28-4
Knights beat Cowboys 34-6
Eagles beat Tigers 26-0
Roosters beat Eels 50-0
Broncos beat Titans 32-12
Cowboys beat Panthers 30-0
Roosters beat Bulldogs 38-0
Roosters beat Dragons 34-10
Knights beat Titans 30-6
Panthers beat Eels 44-12
Bulldogs beat Tigers 40-4
Roosters beat Panthers 30-6
Sharks beat Tigers 30-6
Raiders beat Knights 44-14
Broncos beat Titans 32-6
Rabbits beat Tigers 54-10
Dragons beat Eels 32-12
Panther beat Warriors 62-6
Knights beat Bulldogs 44-8
Titans beat Eels 42-4
Warriors beat Broncos 56-18
Storm beat Sharks 38-6
Broncos beat Tigers 32-12
Rabbits beat Eels 30-10
Rabbits beat Raiders 32-2
Knights beat Titans 46-16
Cowboys beat Sharks 24-4
Storm beat Broncos 32-0
Roosters beat Dragons 36-0
Panthers beat Titans 40-18
Eagles beat Eels 50-10
Bulldogs beat Storm 39-0
Eagles beat Cowboys 34-14
Roosters beat Sharks 40-0
Bulldogs beat Eels 40-12
Rabbits beat Titans 32-4
Roosters beat Panthers 42-6
Eagles beat Eels 40-6
Storm beat Raiders 68-4
Titans beat Tigers 36-6

Thats 46 games in season 2013 where a side has been flogged by 20 + points. There is at least a dozen more where a team has lost by 18.

I agree it is a terrible look for the league and think the blame solely lies with the u/20's lack of focus on defence and the fact that we do not have a strong enough reserve grade for depth when teams are decimated through injury or rep honours.

With 5 rounds remaining and looking at some of the matchups, I think we will hit 60 floggings by the years end.
 
Problem is how the ruck is refereed. Interpretations favour certain playstyles and certain players.

I'd make it black and white with and idea to allow for struggling at first impact of the tackle, afterwhich a simple count and play the ball. No wrestle, no endless struggling with no progress. As soon as progress is reduce to a struggle the count begins.

Currently teams with either more size or better wrestling drills have a ruck advantage.

Smaller or less technically proficient sides spend more energy at the ruck contest, which reduces line speed, and increases meters of the opposition. The fatigue eventually hits hard and defensive gaps open up. Now do you reward wrestling skills? If i was the NRL i'd do the fan test, if wrestling is increasing entertainment then encourage it, if it is detracting from the spectacle then remove it. For size there is only a limited pool of big skillful hard working players - once that pool is exhausted then there are tradeoffs (skillful little guys like Fulton, big guys with skills but no work ethic - Pritchard, big guys with no skills etc etc) .

A similar reason causes blow outs in AFL - the weaker teams such as GWS have inferior/inexperience/younger rosters and so their players have to expend more energy to do the same thing as another team who uses less. Every ball they win, every clearance - is less efficient and saps more energy. Now that is natural as the game is not structured at all. With league the ruck is a highly structured part of the game open to interpretations. Making solutions to fix the ruck much more practical and impactful…

The solution i put above theoretically should encourage the game to be played with ball movement and with physicality in the initial contact and immediately subsequent to that contact. With a standard count then players would no longer need to flop three blokes in each tackle to give time for their teammates to retreat.
 
There is no consistency for ruck officiating. That is why you can get a team to thrash another one week and get thrashed the next week.

Give a team more penalties in the ruck, set 12m offside for one and 8m for the other. Eventually after 20mins, 40mins, 60mins etc the team with the greater burden will spend more energy to compete and become more tired and thus easier to score against.

There will always be contests in the ruck and one side will always be less efficient than another - but at least we can try to remove the referee biases and biases of the interpretations. Selecting the desirable interpretation is easy as that will be what produces the best spectacle for the fans.
 
You always get blowouts this time of year …. Some clubs are serious others in holiday mode.
Norths and Newtown used to get flogged by up to 50 points when a try was only worth 3 points at the back end of a season .... The poor ol' Maggies used to always cop it at this time of the season in the latter part of their existence.
 
@stryker said:
Thats 46 games in season 2013 where a side has been flogged by 20 + points. There is at least a dozen more where a team has lost by 18.

I agree it is a terrible look for the league and think the blame solely lies with the u/20's lack of focus on defence and the fact that we do not have a strong enough reserve grade for depth when teams are decimated through injury or rep honours.

With 5 rounds remaining and looking at some of the matchups, I think we will hit 60 floggings by the years end.

46 games out of 152 played so far is 30.26% with a margin of 20+. For the decade 2000-09, 32.65% of games had a margin of 19+ (http://stats.rleague.com/rl/misc/misc1.html). Seems pretty consistent to me…
 

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