Breaking news: HBG takeover

[Vicious]

I have listened to Daniel Paton’s statement. It makes very little sense about the actions taken.

Did he not state decisions were being made without him (which I assume means the board) being consulted ?

 

[Mighty_Tiger]

Most Wests Tigers supporters have jumped to the conclusion that this whole situation has come about due to the 2026 home jersey being mostly orange and assuming it is a step in trying to eliminate the Balmain side of the merger.
This is supposedly based on various quotes of previous conversations with Dennis Burgess and backed up this morning by Lee Hagipantellis.
Contrary to this belief is the public statement made yesterday by Daniel Paton who emphasised there is no agenda against the Balmain side of the merger and stated they poor money into the Balmain juniors, they are not obligated to do this if they dislike the Balmain side of the merger so much.
Paton went on to state the big issue that led to the independent board members being removed was lack of disclosure on things that are supposed to be reviewed and passed at board level.
My understanding is these topics include the ComBank Stadium deal, the 2026 jersey reveal amongst a host of other things.
It’s fine for any fan to say why does the board need to know about these things, but the truth is these type of things, particularly the ComBabk Stadium deal would be discussed and approved at board level by any club, just the same as any business needs big agendas to be passed at board level.
It’s since been rumoured that Barry O’Farrell approved these things and believed him being chairman of the board meant he could give approval without it being raised or voted on by the board.
Common sense tells us all that if this is true, it is not right and has the possibility of dodgy dealings being done.
There has been plenty of comments stating the HBG board members would have known what was going on, well it’s likely they didn’t know anything about it if O’Farrell was making executive decisions without presenting them to the board.
Something to think long and hard about before we jump to conclusions.

Listen to Barry today he says otherwise to everything you have suggested.

If this was all on Barry then why punt all the independents and not just Barry or all the board especially if it never went past Barry. What you’re saying actually makes no sense based on the HBG actions.

Believe what you want end of day they punted the independence of the club which was the biggest part of the review. A big part as to why things started to change and gave hope. Something that was setup to make the best decisions for the Wests Tigers and not HBg. It was also a condition of Richo signing up.

My belief is HBG hate not being in control and the jersey decision made them freak out as to how much power they’ve lost as such they want to force it back to how it was. Removing independence means Richo leaves = HBG back in control.

 

[Lestronge]

You are obviously dense if you can’t understand Dennis Paton advising decisions that were supposed to be passed at board level were not making it to board level.
You try sending a coupe of million each year and not being advised of important decisions being made on your investment.

Whose fault is that ? You idiot ! It’s Dennis’ fault ie. he’s not fulfilling his responsibilities as the HBG rep on the board . If you want to argue that there needed to be an additional HBG rep … well whatever . But you’ve never said that … how does Dennis not doing his job lead to 4 independents losing thiers ? It’s bullshit and your lack of intelligence and acknowledgment of even the most basic of facts is pissing me off . This is completely bad faith arguing . Straw man bullshit based on no facts , and when presented with facts you ignore them and double down on your hyperbole .
do you know what conduit is ? Do you know how they operate . Do you know what the function of one is ? Stapleton is the Balmain Conduit . Providing clear concise feedback both to the wests tigers board and to the Balmain board .
The new guy should do the same with wests , keeping everything concise and collated for clarity .
Dennis provides this function for HBG . Patton reports to Dennis . If Patton wants to relay info to and from the wests tigers board officially , he does it through Dennis . Patton could get fired tomorrow . He is an employee of HBG . Not an employee of Wests tigers …

 

[NT_Tiger]

The Paton statement appears to me to be a smokescreen. If HBG were not being kept in the loop by their reps on the WT board, why not sack them instead of the independents?

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

with the stadium policy, did hbg not realise the funding was happening or the agreement with council for 7 games at Campbelltown?
or was it the fact Leichhardt received funding first that annoyed hbg ?
what were the 2 hbg representatives doing in the board meetings were they asleep when the jerseys were being designed.?

 

[Vicious]

No you don’t, you dense [This word has been automatically removed]wit. You’ve literally been shown how you’re wrong and yet you keep doubling down on the exact same line.

You have no original thought, you’re just a dumb bot repeating the HBG lines.

Explain how I am wrong in sharing the comments from Daniel Paton which suggest important decisions were being made without the boards knowledge?
You can either dismiss his comments as a lie or be open to the possibility that the correct processes were not being followed.

 

[Vicious]

with the stadium policy, did hbg not realise the funding was happening or the agreement with council for 7 games at Campbelltown?
or was it the fact Leichhardt received funding first that annoyed hbg ?
what were the 2 hbg representatives doing in the board meetings were they asleep when the jerseys were being designed.?

Maybe they were asleep, who knows.
Daniel Paton suggested they, meaning the HBG were not aware of major decisions being made.

 

[hammertime]

Most Wests Tigers supporters have jumped to the conclusion that this whole situation has come about due to the 2026 home jersey being mostly orange and assuming it is a step in trying to eliminate the Balmain side of the merger.
This is supposedly based on various quotes of previous conversations with Dennis Burgess and backed up this morning by Lee Hagipantellis.
Contrary to this belief is the public statement made yesterday by Daniel Paton who emphasised there is no agenda against the Balmain side of the merger and stated they poor money into the Balmain juniors, they are not obligated to do this if they dislike the Balmain side of the merger so much.
Paton went on to state the big issue that led to the independent board members being removed was lack of disclosure on things that are supposed to be reviewed and passed at board level.
My understanding is these topics include the ComBank Stadium deal, the 2026 jersey reveal amongst a host of other things.
It’s fine for any fan to say why does the board need to know about these things, but the truth is these type of things, particularly the ComBabk Stadium deal would be discussed and approved at board level by any club, just the same as any business needs big agendas to be passed at board level.
It’s since been rumoured that Barry O’Farrell approved these things and believed him being chairman of the board meant he could give approval without it being raised or voted on by the board.
Common sense tells us all that if this is true, it is not right and has the possibility of dodgy dealings being done.
There has been plenty of comments stating the HBG board members would have known what was going on, well it’s likely they didn’t know anything about it if O’Farrell was making executive decisions without presenting them to the board.
Something to think long and hard about before we jump to conclusions.

Think long and hard too mate. If this was the case, why was there no issue raised at board level by HBG reps, or other board members for that matter? Why was this not discussed and fixed? That's the correct way to resolve.

There will be a trail in meeting minutes and Barry already said there is none. Given HBG have a reputation for embellishment (other hbg members booted), I'll stick with Barry on this one.

 

[Leck]

Yeah, I don't get it... Someone with too much power had a brain fart.

 

[BAGNF05]

with the stadium policy, did hbg not realise the funding was happening or the agreement with council for 7 games at Campbelltown?
or was it the fact Leichhardt received funding first that annoyed hbg ?
what were the 2 hbg representatives doing in the board meetings were they asleep when the jerseys were being designed.?

It was reported some time back that HBG reps often don’t show up at board meetings.

 

[NT_Tiger]

Maybe they were asleep, who knows.
Daniel Paton suggested they, meaning the HBG were not aware of major decisions being made.

You can repeat that as often as you like. It simply does not ring true.

 

[Vicious]

Listen to Barry today he says otherwise to everything you have suggested.

If this was all on Barry then why punt all the independents and not just Barry or all the board especially if it never went past Barry. What you’re saying actually makes no sense based on the HBG actions.

Believe what you want end of day they punted the independence of the club which was the biggest part of the review. A big part as to why things started to change and gave hope. Something that was setup to make the best decisions for the Wests Tigers and not HBg. It was also a condition of Richo signing up.

My belief is HBG hate not being in control and the jersey decision made them freak out as to how much power they’ve lost as such they want to force it back to how it was. Removing independence means Richo leaves = HBG back in control.

Well either Barry O or Daniel Paton are lying.

 

[Rock Hopper Steve]

Breathe Grasshopper, Breathe.

What do you reckon we should do with these HBG crackpots mikey, my solution is to blindfold them all and let them loose on the Ukraine front.

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

It was reported some time back that HBG reps often don’t show up at board meetings.

lol or read papers or watch TV
if it was Barry doing this then sack him not the other independents

 

[Vicious]

Think long and hard too mate. If this was the case, why was there no issue raised at board level by HBG reps, or other board members for that matter? Why was this not discussed and fixed? That's the correct way to resolve.

There will be a trail in meeting minutes and Barry already said there is none. Given HBG have a reputation for embellishment (other hbg members booted), I'll stick with Barry on this one.

Fair enough, but don’t forget Barry O’s track record either.
Daniel Paton is a blatant liar if what you are saying is correct.

 

[Tiger-ferret]

It was reported some time back that HBG reps often don’t show up at board meetings.

This is just so toxic and pathetic

 

[Lestronge]

Who has more money, HBG or NRL?
And can the NRL make it hard for them, like force them to relocate etc?

In theory if it was 1995 and SL was going then HBG would have power . But now it’s the nrl , and they are the only game in town , and own all thier licenses , once the license has been removed , sure HBG owns wests tigers the club , but what is that worth if they’re not apart of the nrl ? Zero . Less than zero , because of all the overheads . They could double down and say , fine we will run the wests tigers … but think about how much money they would have to payout to employees and bills . They’d have 2 options . Fold the club and right it off for tax as a loss , and get horses heads turn up next to thier pillow … or sell it.
The license would probably then go to someone like easts tigers the club moves to Brisbane … and these 25 years are a bad memory .

 

[Batmans Parents]

Explain how I am wrong in sharing the comments from Daniel Paton which suggest important decisions were being made without the boards knowledge?
You can either dismiss his comments as a lie or be open to the possibility that the correct processes were not being followed.

You didn’t just share his comments, you gutless lying sack of shit. You shared them and completely endorsed them by going about HBG not being consulted when investing “millions”.

Now find your spine and try to explain to everyone how HBG weren’t consulted on major decisions despite having two reps, including the chairman, sitting on the WT board.

 

[Vicious]

You can repeat that as often as you like. It simply does not ring true.

And you know that as factual information all the way from NZ ?

 

[Telltails]

The statement from Paton was a lot of spin. The independents thought they were doing a good job on the back of the boardroom meetings and their achievements. They were totally blindsided while the HBG reps on the board remain with positions in tact.
There is a reason the old Maggie diehards are cheering about this action - and can guarantee it's got nothing to do with the future of WTs.