Breaking news: HBG takeover

[Goyougoodthng]

Not in that sense, but if it’s proven that important decisions were being made without them making it to board level, I would then think they have the right to do what they have done.

Let's say decision were made without consultation, do you think sacking
the 4 independent board members without prior consultation was strategically in the best interests of the club?

 

[innsaneink]

You don’t like liars but you are happy to run with the heard without knowing any factual evidence.
That’s not contradictory at all.
Posters such as BWG, Mighty Tiger and BAGNF05 just to name a few back up their statements with evidence which makes sense.
That is called discussion which is what this forum in meant for.

Ive told you I dont believe Paton

I dont trust HBG, you yourself have admitted they have a bad track record

The sacked chair and three independants made statements this morning...I believe them

You ignore facts and statements until you been hit in the face with them 4 dozen times and now youre having an each way bet....and you had the gaul to call out people on another topic where you wanted them to put their opinions on the line on the team making the 8 next year...all while constantly saying "I hope Im wrong"...but we all know what was to come if we miss again next september...youll be back blowing your trumpet

Ive been around for a while and Ive seen your type many many times

 

[BAGNF05]

Let’s say for sh*ts’n giggles, this all comes back to Burgess as the HBG rep having, as the independent directors have outlined, been privy to & involved in all key decisions. And he has misled his own HBG board members & CEO to achieve a desired outcome. I wonder if it can be as simple as him being ousted from WT & HBG, the independent directors reinstated to the WT board & a new HBG rep installed.

I think the forum might wig out if that happened.

 

[Vicious]

Wouldn't that be grounds for removal of the CEO?

Logically yes.
He could always say he got approval from the chairman and was not aware if decisions had been raised at board level or not.

 

[BlackWhiteGold]

It’s now gone too far without the truth being exposed.
I know the HBG are very good at making bad decisions, but I honestly didn’t think they would be dumb enough to bring this unnecessary type of heat on themselves without good reason.

It looks like it is boiling down to a battle between Burgess & perhaps Leo Epifania as the WM rep (and HBG debenture holder) against the 4 independent directors on who has failed to properly communicate key WT information to the right people as per their duty.

 

[Vicious]

Ive told you I dont believe Paton

I dont trust HBG, you yourself have admitted they have a bad track record

The sacked chair and three independants made statements this morning...I believe them

You ignore facts and statements until you been hit in the face with them 4 dozen times and now youre having an each way bet....and you had the gaul to call out people on another topic where you wanted them to put their opinions on the line on the team making the 8 next year...all while constantly saying "I hope Im wrong"...but we all know what was to come if we miss again next september...youll be back blowing your trumpet

Ive been around for a while and Ive seen your type many many times

If you don’t believe somebody’s statement such as Paton, that does not give you the right to criticise anyone who states they are not prepared to dismiss what he stated unless it is proven be untrue.
As I previously stated, BWG, Mighty Tiger, BAGNF05 and a few others have all provided good evidence and arguments as to why they believe HBG are in the wrong.
You are not one of them as you just like to be a nark and criticise without any evidence to back up your argument.

 

[BAGNF05]

It looks like it is boiling down to a battle between Burgess & perhaps Leo Epifania as the WM rep (and HBG debenture holder) against the 4 independent directors on who has failed to properly communicate key WT information to the right people as per their duty.

They’ve both saved all their texts communicating the jersey colours back to HQ.

 

[BZN]

Piss off and at try to get your facts straight before opening that ill-informed sewer you call a mouth. Like HBG, you’re a shitstain on the underpants of this club.

Theres a well-known saying which I think comes from a place called
KwaZulu-Natal...If you have nothing positive to say, the only option you have left is to resort to disrespect.

 

[innsaneink]

It looks like it is boiling down to a battle between Burgess & perhaps Leo Epifania as the WM rep (and HBG debenture holder) against the 4 independent directors on who has failed to properly communicate key WT information to the right people as per their duty.

If thats the case then its Bye bye Leo

 

[Vicious]

They’ve both saved all their texts communicating the jersey colours back to HQ.

Surely 4 independent board members have not been dismissed all because they give their approval for a predominantly orange coloured jersey ?
That’s basically what is being portrayed in the media, it sounds too ridiculous to be true.

 

[innsaneink]

If you don’t believe somebody’s statement such as Paton, that does not give you the right to criticise anyone who states they are not prepared to dismiss what he stated unless it is proven be untrue.
As I previously stated, BWG, Mighty Tiger, BAGNF05 and a few others have all provided good evidence and arguments as to why they believe HBG are in the wrong.
You are not one of them as you just like to be a nark and criticise without any evidence to back up your argument.

The same evidence as the members you mentioned quoted...you know, the facts

Why dont you go start another rumour....then claim theres two sides to every story, then cover your arse with an each way bet...troll.

Werent you a member of those lunatics at Cambo with their scary skull and crossbones banner...wests diehards ar some garbage?

Im done with you, dont engage with me again

 

[BAGNF05]

Surely 4 independent board members have not been dismissed all because they give their approval for a predominantly orange coloured jersey ?
That’s basically what is being portrayed in the media, it sounds too ridiculous to be true.

Yeah it was an attempt at humor, probably a poor one.

HBG leave themselves open to media pile ons constantly, it’s one of the reasons I don’t think they’re fit owners. The strongest clubs are closed shops and understand the value of stability.

 

[BlackWhiteGold]

If thats the case then its Bye bye Leo

Watch your back Leo!

 

[Mighty_Tiger]

Let’s say for sh*ts’n giggles, this all comes back to Burgess as the HBG rep having, as the independent directors have outlined, been privy to & involved in all key decisions. And he has misled his own HBG board members & CEO to achieve a desired outcome. I wonder if it can be as simple as him being ousted from WT & HBG, the independent directors reinstated to the WT board & a new HBG rep installed.

If that occurred the issue gets compounded as just taking someones word over a review of governance protocols before enacting indicates a bigger issue for HBG on multiple fronts.

We need to be mindful they have 2 reps and if both mislead HBG that’s a bigger issue altogether and may lead to full independent board as a condition.

If they were reinstated I suspect that there would also need to be steps added re HBG side of things and the direct action ability to prevent this from occurring in future whilst enabling Richo and independents to resume.

 

[Vicious]

The same evidence as the members you mentioned quoted...you know, the facts

Why dont you go start another rumour....then claim theres two sides to every story, then cover your arse with an each way bet...troll.

Werent you a member of those lunatics at Cambo with their scary skull and crossbones banner...wests diehards ar some garbage?

Im done with you, dont engage with me again

That’s good the feeling is mutual.
No idea where you got the idea I was part of the Wests Diehards, you are way off the mark yet again.

 

[Mighty_Tiger]

Surely 4 independent board members have not been dismissed all because they give their approval for a predominantly orange coloured jersey ?
That’s basically what is being portrayed in the media, it sounds too ridiculous to be true.

Only the Wests Tigers could make that happen.

 

[innsaneink]

That’s good the feeling is mutual.
No idea where you got the idea I was part of the Wests Diehards, you are way off the mark yet again.

Yeah I wouldnt admit to it either...embarrasing, true colours n all that

 

[BlackWhiteGold]

If that occurred the issue gets compounded as just taking someones word over a review of governance protocols before enacting indicates a bigger issue for HBG on multiple fronts.

We need to be mindful they have 2 reps and if both mislead HBG that’s a bigger issue altogether and may lead to full independent board as a condition.

If they were reinstated I suspect that there would also need to be steps added re HBG side of things and the direct action ability to prevent this from occurring in future whilst enabling Richo and independents to resume.

This would be a most pleasing outcome for many.

No protracted saga for the NRL, Burgess out pleasing the masses, HBG saves some face with blame falling on its representative & business returns to normal for WT & its board.

We know that HBG have a history of knifing their own! Maybe it will be Burgess.

 

[tigertye]

Joel Caine made some brilliant points today. Can’t post for some reason but worth the search. He gets it. Line in the sand - WT only, no Balmain, no Wests. Time to move on.

I met Dennis Burgess at a personal level nearly 20 years ago. We were quite active in his local band comps and were frequently hired for private gigs through his company at a pretty young age. I can assure you all he couldn’t organise a microphone and it was like dealing with peak Ozzy Osbourne. His intermission speeches and his stupid hair were a laughing point in between every set.

The level of amazement that I have that this fella has any sort of representation with WT has concerned me for years.

Fans need to act on this and fast. Every old dinosaur needs to go once and for all.

 

[Mighty_Tiger]

It looks like it is boiling down to a battle between Burgess & perhaps Leo Epifania as the WM rep (and HBG debenture holder) against the 4 independent directors on who has failed to properly communicate key WT information to the right people as per their duty.

The challenge with this is both would’ve been asked and if both lied that’s now put HBG in a very awkward situation that leaves them little choice re power within the wests tigers board.

If it was something along those lines then unfortunately HBG get dragged through it by 2 cowards who couldn’t be honest. But the Wests Tigers longer term probably end up in a better position.

Bigger issue would be if they’re right & HBG rightfully so punted the board members not including - that has bigger ramifications for the club IMO