Clubs to hold NRL to ransom over $1.6 billion stadium investment

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Clubs to hold NRL to ransom over $1.6 billion stadium investment
March 23, 2016
Michael Chammas
Sports reporter

The four Sydney clubs key to unlocking a $1.6 billion investment in stadiums are set to hold the NRL to ransom with a list of demands they want met before committing to leaving their suburban grounds.

The NRL finds itself in a precarious position trying to convince eight Sydney-based clubs to commit to 65 games at the network of major venues before the NSW government's April 1 deadline.

The clubs are well aware of the power they now hold and are seeking financial incentives to move matches to the major venues, as well as other guarantees surrounding membership and transportation.

The Dragons, Tigers, Sea Eagles and Sharks are reluctant to walk away from their suburban home grounds and have begun negotiating a deal with the NRL that could see them shift multiple games to either Parramatta, Olympic Park or Moore Park.

The NRL has earmarked the Sydney Roosters, Parramatta, South Sydney and Canterbury for a combined 42 games at the network of major venues, but ARLC chairman John Grant is heading up the operation to convince the remaining clubs to commit to another 23.

Grant has been left to deal with the issue following the departure of former NRL boss Dave Smith. Smith lobbied the NSW government for a new 55,000-seat stadium at Moore Park without consulting the clubs and gaining a commitment to use the venue.

Since Smith's departure, Grant has opened discussions with the clubs and has found the key stakeholders of the game don't want a new stadium at Moore Park and would prefer ANZ Stadium receive the majority of the billion-dollar funding while Allianz Stadium is refurbished.

Smith's approach has now left Grant in a vulnerable position as he tries to please the clubs and gain a commitment to new venues before the NSW government takes the $1.6 billion off the table on April 1.

**The NRL is hopeful the Dragons and Tigers will each commit to playing eight games out of the major venues, while Manly and Cronulla will play three to four.**

A major stumbling block for the Dragons is the potential buy-out of the club by WIN Television, who are also the naming rights sponsor of the club's Wollongong home ground.

It's understood if the Dragons, who are in debt to the NRL, alienate the south coast could it could jeopardise negotiations with WIN given their strong footprint in the region.

**The Wests Tigers are understood to be seeking financial support for a centre of excellence as well as a financial carrot before they consider riling their fans in the inner west and Campbelltown by further reducing their suburban presence.**

The Sea Eagles are privately hopeful they will gain funding to upgrade Brookvale Oval, and would require a significant investment in transport from the northern beaches to the CBD if they were to agree to take a minimum of three games across the bridge.

However Manly's primary focus is to ensure the longevity of Brookvale Oval and are committed to playing the vast majority of their games at their traditional home.

The Sharks are in a different position because they own their home ground and remain committed to the Sutherland shire.

The decision to exempt Penrith from the commitment group hasn't gone down well with rival clubs, who don't agree they should be left alone given the government has earmarked a stadium in greater western Sydney in the future.

The NRL held urgent individual meetings with each club this week, but there is a growing fear the infighting and conflicting interests could cost the game "a once in a century" investment, with the Mike Baird government threatening to take the deal off the table if the NRL fails to commit to the quota of matches.
 
If the NRL is interested in improving the existing competition, it would fund the centre of excellence. Martin is a shining example of the fine job WTs has done with regard to junior development and to me Watson Heleta is on the cusp of a stella NRL career (down to his commitment to hard work).
 
@Pawsandclaws said:
If the NRL is interested in improving the existing competition, it would fund the centre of excellence. Martin is a shining example of the fine job WTs has done with regard to junior development and to me Watson Heleta is on the cusp of a stella NRL career (down to his commitment to hard work).

Martin
Hoffman
Moa
Tedesco
Marshall
Moses
Brooks
Farah
Teo

list goes on
 
Why do we need a new stadium at Moore Park? - the stadium that is there is more than sufficient for the teams in the area i.e. Rorters and Souffs.

The Olympic stadium (or ANZ, refuse to call it that), is more than sufficient, capacity wise and may need a small amount of funding to paper over any inadequacies it has.

The money the State Government has to invest should be spent at Liverpool with a new stadium being built in an area that does not have a large facility. Blind Freddie can see this - this would enable the Tigers and or Bulldogs to move there and any other sport to play their games in a modern facility that the area deserves.

Too much pull down and put up the same thing in areas that are already catered for. Areas deprived of 21st century sporting facilities should be the beneficiaries not the same old areas. Sydney does extend beyond Parramatta Mr Grant and Mr Baird - although I wouldn't expect you to know that.

AND the big question…... Why is Penrith excluded it forgoing some home games??
 
@Russell said:
Why do we need a new stadium at Moore Park? - the stadium that is there is more than sufficient for the teams in the area i.e. Rorters and Souffs.

The Olympic stadium (or ANZ, refuse to call it that), is more than sufficient, capacity wise and may need a small amount of funding to paper over any inadequacies it has.

The money the State Government has to invest should be spent at Liverpool with a new stadium being built in an area that does not have a large facility. Blind Freddie can see this - this would enable the Tigers and or Bulldogs to move there and any other sport to play their games in a modern facility that the area deserves.

Too much pull down and put up the same thing in areas that are already catered for. Areas deprived of 21st century sporting facilities should be the beneficiaries not the same old areas. Sydney does extend beyond Parramatta Mr Grant and Mr Baird - although I wouldn't expect you to know that.

AND the big question…... Why is Penrith excluded it forgoing some home games??

I would be up for home games at Liverpool, much better than olympic park
 
Agree, Penrith should be included. SMH questions why the Dragons are included being essentially a CRL region. And to be consistent, SMH believes if the Dragons are in, so should be Newcastle. No difference between the two.
 
@Russell said:
Why do we need a new stadium at Moore Park? - the stadium that is there is more than sufficient for the teams in the area i.e. Rorters and Souffs.

The Olympic stadium (or ANZ, refuse to call it that), is more than sufficient, capacity wise and may need a small amount of funding to paper over any inadequacies it has.

The money the State Government has to invest should be spent at Liverpool with a new stadium being built in an area that does not have a large facility. Blind Freddie can see this - this would enable the Tigers and or Bulldogs to move there and any other sport to play their games in a modern facility that the area deserves.

Too much pull down and put up the same thing in areas that are already catered for. Areas deprived of 21st century sporting facilities should be the beneficiaries not the same old areas. Sydney does extend beyond Parramatta Mr Grant and Mr Baird - although I wouldn't expect you to know that.

AND the big question…... Why is Penrith excluded it forgoing some home games??

Because the stadium plan was developed by the local member for Penrith. Can u guess where the new greater western facility will be built
 
Maybe it was the local member for Penrith.

Does not need to be adopted, or used in that area though.

Penrith have a large stadium and the SW do not.

The SW of Sydney is a large area to alienate though - could be shaky when the election comes around Mr Baird. I for one…..
 
@Russell said:
Why do we need a new stadium at Moore Park? - the stadium that is there is more than sufficient for the teams in the area i.e. Rorters and Souffs.

**The Olympic stadium (or ANZ, refuse to call it that), is more than sufficient, capacity wise and may need a small amount of funding to paper over any inadequacies it has.**
The money the State Government has to invest should be spent at Liverpool with a new stadium being built in an area that does not have a large facility. Blind Freddie can see this - this would enable the Tigers and or Bulldogs to move there and any other sport to play their games in a modern facility that the area deserves.

Too much pull down and put up the same thing in areas that are already catered for. Areas deprived of 21st century sporting facilities should be the beneficiaries not the same old areas. Sydney does extend beyond Parramatta Mr Grant and Mr Baird - although I wouldn't expect you to know that.

AND the big question…... Why is Penrith excluded it forgoing some home games??

its crap. its oval and seats way too many people. making it rectangular, 70-75k and roofed would boost crowds

they're putting that liverpool money into parra, for the eels, wanderers and any other clubs that play there

and theyre not building a new stadium at moore park - the old plan was an upgrade of allianz which theyve scrapped
 
@Pawsandclaws said:
Agree, Penrith should be included. SMH questions why the Dragons are included being essentially a CRL region. And to be consistent, SMH believes if the Dragons are in, so should be Newcastle. No difference between the two.

newcastle have already got an efficient, suitably sized stadium. why should they be moved to sydney where they have very little support? :crazy
 
Exactly and the same reasoning applies to the Dragons. Why should a significant proportion of the fan base for the Dragons be made to travel to Sydney?
 
I can see this stadium deal get very messy before it sees light.
How some teams are excluded from playing at certain stadiums will anger fans and opposing teams.
 
As per usual Manly will give a massive up yours to everyone else and just worry about themselves. Apparently their fans can make it up to Gosford but not to Moore Park. I'm surprised they're not pushing for future GFs and origins to be played at the Brookvale Mega Stadium (capacity 230,000).
 
This is a big moment in the game. It's like the NRL don't understand the significance of all this, just the dollar signs. It could make or break the game. Fans could become disconnected.
 
Recent announcement of new stadium to be built at Moore Park by the government and the 3 clubs taking a stance against it will be very interesting as it unfolds.
 
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