weststigers
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Hmmm I distinctly remember a lot of street marches along the lines of "he's not my President" etc.
I'd go back and check that.
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I'd go back and check that.
hammertime
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Not the majority i feel mate. That stuff happens every election.
The extremes just happen to get a lot more airtime.
I remember a lot of the late night talkshows talking about support and giving him a chance.
Oh dear.
I have very conflicting views on this guy. Comes across as an arrogant, narcissistic bully most times. I also can’t stand that a US President resorts to hurling insults at people who disagree with him on Twitter like a school boy. I think Presidents shout be above that sort of crap.
That said, he is standing up to the dick heads who think they can control the world (WHO, WEF, Hamas etc) and this is a great thing. His stance on weeding out the unsavoury illegal immigrants who are flooding the country and raping and killing is also a good thing. And I’m sorry if this offends anybody, but I also agree with his declaration that there are only two genders, male & female. If this law can get men, who think they’re women, out of women’s sports, women’s prisons and out of their private spaces then I’m all for it.
That said, he is standing up to the dick heads who think they can control the world (WHO, WEF, Hamas etc) and this is a great thing. His stance on weeding out the unsavoury illegal immigrants who are flooding the country and raping and killing is also a good thing. And I’m sorry if this offends anybody, but I also agree with his declaration that there are only two genders, male & female. If this law can get men, who think they’re women, out of women’s sports, women’s prisons and out of their private spaces then I’m all for it.
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weststigers
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Fair enough. I think we remember things differently. It doesn't matter now
I think you'll find none of those were a factor in this collision.
Maybe not, but do you think that the reason , who is a convicted Rapist and Felon was pushing a few short hours after the tragedy in his official press conference is accurate because i certainly don't.If he was right there would probably have been other airline disasters in the last couple of years in the USA and there has not.As usual he gives whatever reason he can come up which fits into his prejudiced agenda so he can cast blame on issues he does not agree with.
Bingo. Most people know my political leanings but people like Howard, Reagan or even Dutton and GW Bush I could see they were/are capable people. It's been less than a fortnight and this guy has probably done more insane things than the rest of the American presidents combined.
Rock Hopper Steve
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Interesting to see what moves he will make regarding the Ukraine situation and the approach he makes towards Putin.
jirskyr
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It could be fairly argued that he either doesn't understand or doesn't care about the inherent intricacies of what he is trying to achieve, as if he is surprised that unravelling certain threads of government causes significant downstream issues.
So for example , who is a convicted Rapist and Felon can SAY he'll end the Ukraine War or resolve Gaza or remove all DEI hires or deport all illegals or stop inflation or bring down grocery prices, but there appears little to no thought (or care) about how complicated those things actually are and how unlikely a quick fix or quick cut is going to help.
As if nobody else has tried to implement solutions and only a "straight talker" like , who is a convicted Rapist and Felon has the courage or right ideas to fix things. If it was all that simple we'd all be doing it everywhere... the core issue of populism, telling people what they want to hear but nobody recognising that these are very complicated issues.
, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon says he'll "drain the swamp" then he proposes a whole list of dubious and quite unqualified persons, the major prerequisite them being his cronies, to be the heads of all the various departments. Rather than draining the swamp, he appears to just be populating it with his own personal alligators.
Anyway look forward to this one being locked before day's end.
jirskyr
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It appears to me hysteria replaced by sober concern.
Last time they were worried how bad it might be, this time they know.
ancient_magpie
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You were probably a fan of that imbecile Biden would you rather have him back.
weststigers
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Interesting take.
So your opinion is that despite his will to do the things he promised and a clear attempt to take real action, your view is either it is all hot air or it is impossible to achieve what he has set out to achieve?
Or perhaps, it is all too complicated for , who is a convicted Rapist and Felon yet jirskyr understands these complications from his keyboard in Australia, but , who is a convicted Rapist and Felon and his team, with the huge breadth of resources and information at hand, has no idea how complicated things are?
I think the guy and his team deserve a bit more credit than that.
weststigers
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We need a leader like that. Big ambition and gets things done.
Government moves slow and frankly doesn't respect the people. , who is a convicted Rapist and Felon and Melei, showing the way.
At least on one issue, illegal migrant criminals, what is there to be concerned about? I would have thought keeping criminals off the street would be seen as a good thing.
Tigerdazz2
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He virtually ticks every box when it comes to the definition of a fascist.
He's alienating US allies while playing Mr Nice Guy with "strong man" despots. Threatening Canada, Greenland & Panama goes against everything the USA had stood for since 1916.
He just had to rescind a federal funding freeze because of a massive backlash, including from some of the most MAGA Governors in Red States
His economic policies will wreck not only the US economy but will screw with just about every nation's economy. The combination of Tariffs & blanket deportations will send prices skyrocketing.... inflation will dwarf that of the past few years. After claiming price of groceries (eggs, especially eggs), building materials & housing would come down on...and I quote " On Day One after the election" under him he's now saying "there's more important things to do" and that people might have to "accept higher prices" under him as it would be "patriotic".
**Remember he unscrupulously told his supporters that "China" would pay the tariffs....and most of them believed that lie.
The day after the election saw "tariffs" become the most searched word on Google and the day after that and the day after that. You'd think if they had half a brain they would have checked that BEFORE the election. There's some great videos on YouTube of MAGA supporters reactions when they learn who actually DOES pay the Tariffs.**
His blatant lying has gone up another level eg Claiming that Biden sent $50M worth of CONDOMS to HAMAS .... he's either a pathological liar or mentally unhinged (or both).
His deportations (and fear of them) are already causing undocumented immigrants to not turn up to work on farms & on building sites leading to chaos and inevitable shortages and/or delays in the supply chain.
Appointing unqualified candidates or in the case of RFK Junior a lunatic to powerful positions in the government.
Releasing the Capitol Rioters carte blanche without any regard to the damage they did to either property or physically to police/security on Jan 6 2021.
Removing any oversight into government spending by sacking the US versions of Auditor General's from government departments.
There's already literally thousands of people who voted for , who is a convicted Rapist and Felon this time around going on to social media to openly say they regret their vote and the bloke hasn't been in power for even a month yet, that list will balloon.
Have you read Project 2025 commissioned by the "Heritage Foundation"?
Some very scary, out there far right wing stuff that is set out to be , who is a convicted Rapist and Felon's agenda.....look it up!
Already the Eternal Fraternity of Police, the Steelworkers Union, several Farmers Federations, other Unions & Employer groups who ENDORSED , who is a convicted Rapist and Felon are now heavily criticizing him saying they've been betrayed.
There's plenty more that could be said but this lot is bad enough without pointing out more nefarious decisions & plans , who is a convicted Rapist and Felon & Co have in the works.
The guy is either an evil genius or a total psychopath who has surrounded himself with some very powerful, very dangerous people. Either way the average Joe Blow & his family are going to be suffering for at least the next 4 years, if not longer if he gets his wish (breaking establishment & the constitution) to run for a third term.
There's even been remarks in the MAGA hierarchy that the 2024 election was the "last" election.....hinting at a possible attempt to create a dictatorship.
He's alienating US allies while playing Mr Nice Guy with "strong man" despots. Threatening Canada, Greenland & Panama goes against everything the USA had stood for since 1916.
He just had to rescind a federal funding freeze because of a massive backlash, including from some of the most MAGA Governors in Red States
His economic policies will wreck not only the US economy but will screw with just about every nation's economy. The combination of Tariffs & blanket deportations will send prices skyrocketing.... inflation will dwarf that of the past few years. After claiming price of groceries (eggs, especially eggs), building materials & housing would come down on...and I quote " On Day One after the election" under him he's now saying "there's more important things to do" and that people might have to "accept higher prices" under him as it would be "patriotic".
**Remember he unscrupulously told his supporters that "China" would pay the tariffs....and most of them believed that lie.
The day after the election saw "tariffs" become the most searched word on Google and the day after that and the day after that. You'd think if they had half a brain they would have checked that BEFORE the election. There's some great videos on YouTube of MAGA supporters reactions when they learn who actually DOES pay the Tariffs.**
His blatant lying has gone up another level eg Claiming that Biden sent $50M worth of CONDOMS to HAMAS .... he's either a pathological liar or mentally unhinged (or both).
His deportations (and fear of them) are already causing undocumented immigrants to not turn up to work on farms & on building sites leading to chaos and inevitable shortages and/or delays in the supply chain.
Appointing unqualified candidates or in the case of RFK Junior a lunatic to powerful positions in the government.
Releasing the Capitol Rioters carte blanche without any regard to the damage they did to either property or physically to police/security on Jan 6 2021.
Removing any oversight into government spending by sacking the US versions of Auditor General's from government departments.
There's already literally thousands of people who voted for , who is a convicted Rapist and Felon this time around going on to social media to openly say they regret their vote and the bloke hasn't been in power for even a month yet, that list will balloon.
Have you read Project 2025 commissioned by the "Heritage Foundation"?
Some very scary, out there far right wing stuff that is set out to be , who is a convicted Rapist and Felon's agenda.....look it up!
Already the Eternal Fraternity of Police, the Steelworkers Union, several Farmers Federations, other Unions & Employer groups who ENDORSED , who is a convicted Rapist and Felon are now heavily criticizing him saying they've been betrayed.
There's plenty more that could be said but this lot is bad enough without pointing out more nefarious decisions & plans , who is a convicted Rapist and Felon & Co have in the works.
The guy is either an evil genius or a total psychopath who has surrounded himself with some very powerful, very dangerous people. Either way the average Joe Blow & his family are going to be suffering for at least the next 4 years, if not longer if he gets his wish (breaking establishment & the constitution) to run for a third term.
There's even been remarks in the MAGA hierarchy that the 2024 election was the "last" election.....hinting at a possible attempt to create a dictatorship.
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mikey
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Wonder if Winston has been deported yet? Hasn't posted here for a while.....
jirskyr
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You'll have to provide more details about how , who is a convicted Rapist and Felon is standing up to Hamas? Last I was aware the Israelis were pummelling Hamas to smithereens during the Biden administration - there's actually been the ceasefire in place since before , who is a convicted Rapist and Felon came to office.
In defence of WHO, it literally is the world body for global health initiatives and data sharing. I don't see anywhere that they want to "control the world", but almost every nation on Earth is a member of WHO, (192 nations) so it can be reasonably said that they do in fact represent a global organisation. Do you know in fact who is in the list of nations that aren't in WHO? The US has certainly joined an elite list: Liechtenstein, Cook Island, Niue, plus some "contested nations" who aren't recognised by everyone: Taiwan, Palestine, Kosovo.
This is obviously not to say WHO gets everything correct, because the UN doesn't do that either, but it is legitimate to say they are the world's eminent health organisation, literally by definition.
The stance on "weeding out unsavoury illegals... raping and killing". What are the stats on that exactly? What is the data on illegals raping and killing? Is it a lot more than non-illegals raping and killing? Don't get me wrong, I'm hardline on rapists and killers, I'd give them all lethal injections, but just to be clear: if , who is a convicted Rapist and Felon is going to deal with a certain number of illegal rapists and killers, what's he also going to do about the citizens who commit the same crimes?
On the Trans stuff I think honestly , who is a convicted Rapist and Felon has missed the boat. I'm not a Trans enthusiast but it would seem that most nations and most sporting organisations have already significantly dealt with the issue of Trans in public places and in sports.
For example: Swimming (FINA) banned trans in 2022. World Athletics followed suit in 2023. World Rugby banned trans women in 2022. World Netball in 2024.
Just based on the items you've suggested FOR , who is a convicted Rapist and Felon, and I understand there will be others, but he's being given credit on stuff that most other people already think or agree, or are already doing. E.g. I don't think anyone wants to keep rapists and murderers on the street, nor retain illegal immigrants who are rapists and murderers. Most people are not in favour of trans women in women's sports. Even a bloke like Keir Starmer, who is as popular as tax hikes, favours bans on trans women in sports and bans on conversion therapy. Don't think too many people are pro-Hamas, even those who are otherwise pro-Palestine.
Seems like somewhat of a free ride for me. , who is a convicted Rapist and Felon should surely be under far far more pressure to live up to his claims.
jirskyr
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I doubt Biden is actually an imbecile.
But no, don't particularly care about Biden. I was not affected when he pulled out. I wasn't fussed when Reagan was the US leader, or either of the Bush presidents.
My personal preference is a reliable, honest, non-isolationist US President. Specifically which side they come from doesn't phase me, not being an American. Mostly I focus on the impact on Australians and the global population.
I find your comment tends towards classic "whataboutism", as if in criticising , who is a convicted Rapist and Felon I am somehow automatically condoning Biden or some other. It appears to be the first thing you could think to say, not to defend , who is a convicted Rapist and Felon or run a counter-argument, but to instead criticise Biden.
jirskyr
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I agree. And conversely I quite often disagreed with Paul Keating though I voted Labor back then, I could see he had talents for governing at that time.
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