Hypocritical

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A lot of people here and elsewhere said they were burned by Benji when donned the Blues jumper, saying that he wasn't loyal.

Now, when Benji wants to come back to the club, we're saying "no thanks"

Is this not hypocritical?

I just wonder how much of this "Sorry, we have moved on" talk is more about getting back at Benji?

just a thought…

regards, one fan who will be unhappy seeing him in another jersey 😢
 
The question should be asked would he want to come back if we were struggling. Imo he's seeing how good we're going and wanted to jump on board.

No thanks.
 
Sorry but I can't find any logic in your "hypocritical" at all.

If your misses left you for another bloke, made a video for you only in his work shirt, would you want her back because you just got rich.

If the answer is yes, then you have some major problems.
 
We really have moved on, in every sense.

We are near the top of the ladder with a new bunch of star players, playing a different brand of football.

And the money offered to Benji when he left is now being spent on the new stars.

You can remove emotion from the equation altogether, it's a cold fact that we've moved on.
 
At this stage the most important thing for Wests Tigers is that they strongly chase a transfer fee for Benji especially if he is going to his "mates" at Cronulla.
 
@Kul said:
A lot of people here and elsewhere said they were burned by Benji when donned the Blues jumper, saying that he wasn't loyal.

Now, when Benji wants to come back to the club, we're saying "no thanks"

Is this not hypocritical?

I just wonder how much of this "Sorry, we have moved on" talk is more about getting back at Benji?

just a thought…

regards, one fan who will be unhappy seeing him in another jersey 😢
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What else can or should we do Kul ??

2013 we were 7-17 off the top of my head
2014 we are 5 - 2

I'm not blaming Benji for this but we seem to be in a good place and moving forward like a real NRL club

The risk of going backwards is too great in my opinion

Players like Prince ,Laffranchi , Lui were bigger losses to this club

In the end Benji was only bringing some sponsorship strength to the club

Now the club is bringing sponsorship strength possibilities with good on field performances which are being driven by some kids who are likely to be household names in 3 years time , not relying on the past
 
Your significant other decides the relationship is not working and ends the relationship.

You spend 6 months without your significant other and make positive changes in your life that leave you feeling better than when you were with your significant other.

Your significant other's new relationship does not work out. Your significant other wishes to try and make things work. Welcoming your significant other back into your life may involve reversing some of the changes you have made that have improved your life. Tempering that, you will also have some of the great features you loved about your significant other back in your life.

On balanced, you are unsure what will happen if you rekindle the relationship. All you know if that you are doing better now than you were when you were in the relationship, and that rekindling the relationship may cause harm that will require you to start the emotional rebuilding process all over again.

What do you do?

I think the best decisionf or a person who had moved on emotionally would be to ignore for the undeniable allure of precious memories passed and let bygones be bygones. If you are in a better position than you were before the relationship, why would you start it again and risk what you have built up?

And so I see it with Benji. We are doing better without Benji. It may be we are doing better DESPITE the fact we lost him, or it might be BECAUSE we lost him. Given this is an unknown and given we are more than coping, why would we take that risk? No bitterness, no hypocrisy, just fact.

I recognise that's a rather crude analogy, and I did stretch it, but I think it works to a certain extent.

For what it's worth I suspect Benji's presence might have been a bit of a cancer in the club. His departure has coincided with unprecedented committment, determination, and above all cohesion amongst the team. That's not to suggest that he was necessarily some Machiavellian, conniving, loathsome or malevolent spirit skulking the dressing rooms of Concord. Rather that his influence at the club was too big for his ability. A systemic failing of the club perhaps.

Plainly speaking, I think accusations of hypocrisy and spite are unfounded. It's a decision that is being made in the best interests of the club.
 
Interesting replies, I see where ur all coming from

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And Benji's contributions for the Tigers will always have many spots in the pantheon of my greatest football memories. I will be sad to see him in another team's jersey.

However, I HATED him for wearing a union jersey.

Wearing a league jersey I can truthfully wish him every success.

Much, much better this way.

The Tigers should seek commercial recompense because it is in the best interests of the club. However, this should be done very delicately and without infringing upon Marshall's opportunity to play in any way shape or form. We gave him our blessing to leave and were happy to do so. Trying to claw back money now is opportunistic. I have no problem with us being opportunistic, but not when there are costs to Marshall who is a great of the game. A slightly quixotic great, but a great nonetheless.
 
@TimmyB said:
Your significant other decides the relationship is not working and ends the relationship.

You spend 6 months without your significant other and make positive changes in your life that leave you feeling better than when you were with your significant other.

Your significant other's new relationship does not work out. Your significant other wishes to try and make things work. Welcoming your significant other back into your life may involve reversing some of the changes you have made that have improved your life. Tempering that, you will also have some of the great features you loved about your significant other back in your life.

On balanced, you are unsure what will happen if you rekindle the relationship. All you know if that you are doing better now than you were when you were in the relationship, and that rekindling the relationship may cause harm that will require you to start the emotional rebuilding process all over again.

What do you do?

I think the best decisionf or a person who had moved on emotionally would be to ignore for the undeniable allure of precious memories passed and let bygones be bygones. If you are in a better position than you were before the relationship, why would you start it again and risk what you have built up?

And so I see it with Benji. We are doing better without Benji. It may be we are doing better DESPITE the fact we lost him, or it might be BECAUSE we lost him. Given this is an unknown and given we are more than coping, why would we take that risk? No bitterness, no hypocrisy, just fact.

I recognise that's a rather crude analogy, and I did stretch it, but I think it works to a certain extent.

For what it's worth I suspect Benji's presence might have been a bit of a cancer in the club. His departure has coincided with unprecedented committment, determination, and above all cohesion amongst the team. That's not to suggest that he was necessarily some Machiavellian, conniving, loathsome or malevolent spirit skulking the dressing rooms of Concord. Rather that his influence at the club was too big for his ability. A systemic failing of the club perhaps.

Plainly speaking, I think accusations of hypocrisy and spite are unfounded. It's a decision that is being made in the best interests of the club.
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Geez luieez….... I said that in 3 lines lol

You are right that his presence seemed to be a cancer and which unfortunately was of his making. I hope he has learnt a lesson and sure other clubs would be wanting assurances from him that that does not occur in light of acceptance from fans.
 
Benji was one of my faves, however I think it's a fair comment that the club has "moved on". It's not just Benji's suspect form at the end of his tenure, but the circus that surrounds Benji Marshall does seem to have a somewhat destabilising effect on the club. The club seems settled (and winning) now, so I can understand why they are not interested.

Wow, never seen such a fall from grace from a great player. Either he got some atrocious advice from his manager or his head got the better of him. Sad really! Still think Sheens stuffed his latter career.

And give up the media when you come back Benji and concentrate of footy.
 
Theres no hypocrisy, but theres a whole lot of BS from both camps.
Thats business
We are better off. Thats all that matterrs
 
The only contract Benji should ever be offered at the Tigers ever again:

http://www.nrltimes.com.au/images/weststigersmascot11.jpg

Glad to see the back of you champ!
 
I hope he dominates for who ever he plays for.

I think he has been demonised unnecessarily.

That said we have moved on and no longer have a place for benji
 
@BodhiTiger said:
The only contract Benji should ever be offered at the Tigers ever again:

http://www.nrltimes.com.au/images/weststigersmascot11.jpg

Glad to see the back of you champ!
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ouch!!
 
Bloke turns down an opportunity to continue playing for 'the only team in my life' @ $700k per year. Team was losing at the time. HIS CHOICE
Money saved by his departure invested in new team and team structure and culture. New team is winning. Meantime bloke finds out chosen career change is hard work. Hmmmm, old digs looking good. Never play against my old team, ……unless maybe i spoke too soon or,…... old team is less than ecstatic about my return. Hypocrisy??? You decide.
Some posters are saying what a boon it would be to get bloke at garage sale price and put him behind new pack with new 1/2 back etc etc etc. Think about what you are saying. He chose not to stay. If he hadn't left there's a fair old chance we would not have got to this position to make these hopeful hypotheticals possible. He left a losing team, wants to come back into a winning team. Heartstrings go tug tug. Lot of tugging going on.
 
Most replies on here are playing the emotional card. Ie if it was your wife, partner etc would you have them back - no.

I take a business perspective though. If it benefits the club I'd have him back in a heartbeat and I believe it would benefit the club, if the price was right. The old power regime is gone and Benji would need to fit in with how things are done now. I think he is capable of doing so. Failure is a powerful lesson and motivator.

With Richards doing the goal kicking and Brooks at half there would be less pressure on Benji allowing him to play his natural running game. When Benji plays like that he is almost unstoppable. So yeah I'd have him back.

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If Benji was to be considered as a possibility to re-join Wests Tigers, Benji and his coach Mick Potter would need to ask themselves and truthfully answer the following questions;

1\. Benji , if for some reason your form warrants you play State Cup instead of First Grade are you prepared to accept such a situation be it for one match or the whole season?

2\. Mick, if you feel that Benji's form at any time warrants you dropping Benji to State Cup for one match or the whole season would you be persuaded by pressure, from media or elsewhere, to do otherwise?

Remembering that the reason Benji left the Blues was because he couldn't crack first grade I believe that his truthful answer to his question would be a No.
I believe that Potter's truthful answer to his question would be a Yes.

Such circumstances would be untenable to the club and of no benefit to either Benji or Wests Tigers..
 
"and Benji would need to fit in with how things are done now" quote Mike.
He had a taste of how things would be done now, and walked! Where does the optimism that he will suddenly change his ways come from?
"Failure is a powerful lesson and motivator." quote Mike. Indeed!! And the Tigers have learned that lesson well, are motivated and are winning. Why risk upsetting the winning structure with a player that has demonstrated his willingness to 'fit in' by walking??
Yep, good business alright.
 
So many have already hit this on the head. He left to satisfy his desires. He walked away. We made the active decision to prepare for life after him and have done so and such we cannot accommodate him because it hasn't worked out for him. Were we meant to sit on our hands and wait for him to fail and want to return?

It sucked watching him leave the club (and the game,) the way he did, it sucked watching him struggle in a position he wasn't cut for in the game, and most importantly it would suck now if we shafted the guys who got us to where we are in favour for a player who was far from his best form when he left, to chase his dreams only to come back because the times are good after the it all fell in around him.

As far as I am concerned, Benji called time on his career here. It will suck seeing him in another teams colours, but we have kids prepared to commit and give this club their all. There's no more Footy Show BS, no media circuses, no "waaaaa, who will organise lunch." These kids exude the professionalism and attitude we wanted from guys like Benji all these years.
 
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