Is Sterling right?

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AmericanHistoryX

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He talks about no look passes on the nrl website. do you guys agree?

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2) No-look passes

Again evident over the weekend was that unless you are Cooper Cronk, don't throw no-look passes.

Now I know Tigers fans will cry foul and say what about Benji Marshall and his magic efforts? What I say is that Benji gets them right sometimes (and they are spectacular when he does) whilst Cooper gets them right every time, as he did against the Gold Coast on Saturday.
 
Sterling played in the pre-historic ages where taking a risk was using the run around or a chip kick. He needs to get out of that era and get with the times.
 
If Benji didn't throw the occasional one out of the blue that nobody is expecting than he would be an easier prospect to defend. The size of his bag of tricks makes it awfully hard to always make the right decision on him in defence. The time you don't is the time he gets you.
 
The thing that gets me is how many has Cooper Cronk thrown? Half a dozen? Benji throws plenty (probably too many), and as such he gets some wrong. He could criticise no look passes, but why single out Cooper Cronk?

Cronk only does them in set plays which he and Slater would have trained for for hours. Benji can do them anywhere anytime…....and that can sometimes be the problem!
 
just look at hte ones that are match winners or convert to Trys..

There is only one master at it.

BENJI!!!
 
The safety approach just doesnt work for the tigers…remember early on in the season how we were struggling playing a conservative style of footy.
 
Ah, Sterling still thinks its 2001 and Hindmarsh is the best 2nd rower in the game. Games leading authority? cant be much competition these days.
 
@Chris said:
Sterling played in the pre-historic ages where taking a risk was using the run around or a chip kick. He needs to get out of that era and get with the times.
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I sometimes think when egends past make comments such as this, it is because they never had the skill set to do these plays, and look upon them with negativity for this reason. Andrew Johns being distinctly filthy at the flick pass that Gareth Ellis did against the Warriors to put Marshall in for what turned out the be the match turning try springs immediately to mind.

What Sterlo misses and doesn't appreciate that both Marshall and Cronk do is put themselves in positions where they know the move will work - usually its a sly glance before the play is actually made to check positioning and see where the runner is heading.

Cronks passes stick because Billy Slater has lighting reflexes when it comes to catching the passes. Marshalls always stick with Moltzen and Lawrence, however we saw Utai drop a few, and have seen Mckinnon miss one or two as well.

Just a thought.
 
Sterlo obviously didn't have the skillset to throw a successful no-look pass back in his day, therefore he doesn't like it.

What he doesn't understand is that a no-look pass is not just about flair and brilliance. In fact, it's quite the opposite - to completely fool the opposition defender, because the head and eyes is often the window as to what you are about to do.

No look passes are a touch footballers weapon of arsenal, and being a touch player myself, I pull them out when needed when there is an opportunity. There is a big difference in result in looking at the person you are about to pass to, and throwing a no-look, it's so subtle yet hugely deceptive.

We don't do it for flair, there is a purpose behind it. We only have to look back to all the deceptive no looks Benji has thrown to Gareth or Dwyer faking the second man out the back play…Sterlo conveniently forgets about those!
 
Marshall also has the "throw the ball to yourself" move which I have never and I mean NEVER seen anyone else pull off quite as well. Even Cronk doesn't have that one in his bag of tricks.

Go back to the 2009 try of the year to Blake Ayshford, and you can see he pulls it out just before the magic behind the back final pass.
 
Cant stand Sterling…he is a bitter old man who is extremely jealous of the current players. I remember when Johnsy was playing he used to criticise him a lot as well.

His claim to fame which he replays at nauseum on the footy shows is those wall moves etc...

I really hate how he critices those that have helped the game evolve.
 
he's probably talking about Hayne. He is 1 player who only attempts the 'no-look' pass as a way to make himself look good with no real intent on fooling the defence. I don't know how many times during a game i've seen him make the attempt, and the ball hits the ground. Its prima dona's like Hayne who are only looking to add to their highlight reel that make guyz like Sterling so critical of these things
 
Sterling is a very good 2nd commentator paired up with Rabs, but there is a very good reason he doesn't coach. To his credit though Sterlo himself has admitted from time to time he is out of touch and has shortcomings when relating to players of today.
 
@underdog said:
@Chris said:
Sterling played in the pre-historic ages where taking a risk was using the run around or a chip kick. He needs to get out of that era and get with the times.

I sometimes think when egends past make comments such as this, it is because they never had the skill set to do these plays, and look upon them with negativity for this reason. Andrew Johns being distinctly filthy at the flick pass that Gareth Ellis did against the Warriors to put Marshall in for what turned out the be the match turning try springs immediately to mind.

What Sterlo misses and doesn't appreciate that both Marshall and Cronk do is put themselves in positions where they know the move will work - usually its a sly glance before the play is actually made to check positioning and see where the runner is heading.

**Cronks passes stick because Billy Slater has lighting reflexes when it comes to catching the passes. Marshalls always stick with Moltzen and Lawrence, however we saw Utai drop a few, and have seen Mckinnon miss one or two as well.**
Just a thought.
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Yes, yes, yes - very good point Underdog! I think the success of the 'no look pass' depends as much upon the receiver of the pass, as it does upon the giver, and most commentators tend to ignore this. Thanks for highlighting it.
 
Sterling is always critical of the Tigers - he doesen't like us as a team and never has - it isn't the first time he has used his column to criticise things the Tigers do or on TV he often has talked about not seeing what people see in the Tigers and as an ex Eel thats fair enough but in regards to the Tigers I tend to ignore his thoughts
 
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