MORRIS RECEIVES HIGH PRAISE

[hybrid_tiger]

There is a significant difference between persistence and a lack of alternative options. Morris is not a good half but he is certainly a better 6 than 7\. Most people's complaint have been that Sheens persisted with him at 7\. That simply isnt the case. Sheen appeared to realise quote early on, like most of us, that Morris would never be a decent HB and explored alterantive options. I think Sheens deserves criticism for how this was done (Head could have been used more, but I am glad he wasnt retained). Even when Morris played at 6 or 7 he ver rarely played that role on the field with Farah and Marshall usually running the show.

Morris is not a half OR five-eighth. His kicking is dreadful and he has no creativity at half. At five-eighth, our outside backs got no ball and he was a serial overlap killer.

It doesn't matter if he played a different type of role, our attack ALWAYS suffered when Morris was at #6 or #7.

There were alternative options, Sheens just never used them. For example Moltzen should have been moved to the halves earlier this year. Josh Lewis deserved a chance this season also.

Kimmorely has reestablished his career but when he left the Sharks there wasnt a lot of support for him. I cant blame the club for not thinking that he still had in him. Regardless Kimmorely's flat style of football would never suit our side (it would play Benji out of the game). Teams need to adjust to fit Kimmorely's game and it doesnt always work. He suits the Dogs style, doesnt suit ours. That is what a lot of our fans dont understand - you need to choose players that will generally fit within our structure and playing style, unless you want to radically change the way your team plays.

As I recall the Tigers made a play for Carney but he chose to sign with the Roosters. That is his choice. Regardless, not a big fan of his game. Can be very good on his day but I prefer a more structured, organising HB.

re: Walsh did the Panthers make the finals?

Fair point r,e Kimmorley, however I maintain that class players can always fit into a certain structure. IMO there is no doubt that Kimmorley would have significantly improved our side, especially in pressure situations. His kicking game is also first class.

That's a silly point about Walsh. Using your logic, did Benji Marshall and Robbie Farah make the finals? Does that mean they aren't good players? Walsh is an organising half with a good kicking game that was available for peanuts. Of course he wouldn't have been my first choice, but he was an option nonetheless.

 

[Tigermac]

Best of luck in the future Johnny Morris.

 

[izotope]

Best utlity ive seen, would've loved from him to stay as a 14\. but unfortunately sheens can accept the fact he was wrong and he is not the next cooper cronk.
So the best possible thing (for the fans at least) is that he has moved on!

All the best!

 

[McGrime]

I wondered when I would finally get sick of the bullshit that gets delt out in this forum.

So I now fall on my at sword at the expence of a player like John Morris???????

Well thats just a small part of the reason.

But it is a reason thats close to my heart.

A team is not made up of individuals,
And most of the guys who post on this forum pick teams on individual performance.

HEEEELLLLLOOOO. Thats not how it works.

Tim Sheens & the rest of the management live & breath football with these guys,

Do you wankers really believe otherwise???????

A lot of you guys know me here as a pretty straight shooter.

Well i am sorry,

I like John Morris & I like Tim Sheens, & shit I just like this football team.

I like the way they play.

I like most of the decisions the coaching staff make.

So That obviously makes me a minority on this website.

Well I can handle that as well.

Thanks WestsTigers for your efforts, I love the way you play the game,
You will continue (In my Opinion) to be the team that most people love to watch,
Using you as the yardstick as the way that they would love their football team to play this game.

But that counts for nought on this forum.

So I sadly wish you farewell, I will now concentrate my efforts on my next greatest love.

Australian Soccer….............
Please let this be a warning to you Wankers who just can't see what it takes to build a Football Team.

Wests Tigers Forever

Wankers on this Forum..................................................Shit I give up. :master:

 

[hybrid_tiger]

:laughing:

Goodbye.

 

[PrattenParkMagpie]

Yeah he certainly is spot on. **We are the only team in history to go 4 seasons without making the finals after winning a GF.**

I realise that Scott Prince wanted to head back north of the border and there wasn`t much we could do about that, but it doesn`t take 3 losing seasons in a row to work out that someone isn`t working at halfback.

Have seen this claimed a few times on these forums in the recent past, don’t remember who started it but lets put that to rest now….

Since introduction of Finals series in 1926

Parramatta Premiers in 1986
Missed the finals 1987 to 1996 (10 seasons)

Eastern Suburbs Premiers 1945
Missed the finals 1946 to 1952 (7 seasons)

Balmain Premiers 1969
Missed the finals 1970 to 1976 (7 seasons)

Penrith Premiers 1991
Missed the finals 1992 to 1996 (5 seasons)

Canterbury Premiers 1988
Missed the finals 1989 to 1992 (4 seasons)

 

[RatedRKO]

^^

How long did the coaches last after the GF win and no finals?

 

[NEDKELLY]

I think most of the comments about John Morris seem to sum it all up over the last 3 years as follows:
1\. Is Not a 1/2 back
2\. Is courageous and a good defender
3\. Is definitely a pretty good bench utility player
4\. Been a good club man for 3 years
5\. Will be a good pick-up for the Sharks

If you are a team player then you play where you are selected but yes I also agree that Tim Sheens persisted far too long with John Morris at 7.

I personally hope he has great success with Cronulla as he does seem to be a genuinely nice bloke and a pretty fair NRL utility player.

 

[Eye_Of_Wests_Tigers]

Loved Morris from day one, honest performer, who did what he was told week in week out (i.e playing on the wing for 60mins against Parra) and was one who didnt get injured :smiley:

 

[stryker]

:laughing: See ya McGrime you've never made any sense on this or the last forum ever :laughing:

Glad you've gone, you sound exactly like a soccer fan.

Back on topic, good luck for the future Johnny Morris, you have played with balls the whole time you were here. IMO you the only leaving player that will kick on after leaving this club.

 

[Suzie-Q]

Sorry to see you go McGrime. Unlike others on here, I liked your input to the forum and reasonable, balanced discussion. (Although that is probably the problem …) and I agree with you post above. It's a game people, it's not life and death :unamused:

 

[Torbizlo]

I think most of the comments about John Morris seem to sum it all up over the last 3 years as follows:
1\. Is Not a 1/2 back
2\. Is courageous and a good defender
3\. Is definitely a pretty good bench utility player
4\. Been a good club man for 3 years
5\. Will be a good pick-up for the Sharks

spot on.

 

[shifty]

i often wonder what you guys define as a true supporter…

 

[westTAHger]

John Morris will go well at the sharks playing hooker.
defends well, and gives it his all, and most of all rarely misses a game.
that in itself is a testament to the durabilty/toughness of him.
.
all the best at cronulla John, I do not think we have seen the best of you yet.

 

[Kul]

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