NRL Franchise in Perth

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<big>**Billionaire Tony Sage heads consortium that has talked to Ricky Stuart about joining new Perth NRL club**</big>
By Paul Kent The Daily Telegraph February 14, 2012 8:20AM

Billionaire businessman Tony Sage heads a consortium that has held talks with Ricky Stuart to lure the New South Wales Blues State of Origin coach to head up a new NRL franchise in Perth.

Sage, a mining magnate who owns A-League club Perth Glory, and consortium partner Ben Elias, the Balmain Tigers great, have a $20 million budget and also have Andrew Johns in their sights to join the proposed team.

"I watched with interest what Nathan Tinkler did with the Knights and Jets," Sage said ahead of a proposed meeting with NRL chief executive David Gallop on Tuesday about starting a new club in Perth for 2015.

"I can see so many synergies."

Sage is believed to be worth more than $800 million, and he sees no problems with obtaining the $20 million start-up fund needed to establish an NRL club in Perth.

"I know virtually every major sponsor in WA," said Sage, who owns 13 mining companies.

nib Stadium in Perth will undergo a $100 million revamp for 2014, and Western Australia's Government is ready to support a bid.

The game's new independent commission will need to immediately look at expansion for 2015.

With different time zones, rugby league matches could be screened on TV across the day from Auckland to the east coast and then Perth.

Sage offers a compelling argument for the establishment of a club in Western Australia.

"Perth has a fast-growing population and a lot of expats, not only from NSW and Queensland but also New Zealand, who love rugby league," he said.

"To be a truly national competition, eventually, Perth and Adelaide have to be admitted for the NRL to say it is a national brand.

"At the moment, really, it is only AFL.

"TV is also missing the entire time zone of the west.

"Imagine beaming games starting at 6pm Perth time, 9pm in the east. Great for pay-TV."

Sage acknowledges the influence of Nathan Tinkler in his plans, as the Hunter businessman owns two sporting franchises - Newcastle Knights in the NRL and Newcastle Jets in the A-League.

"I have spoken to his offsiders," Sage said.

"I haven't yet spoken to Nathan, but I would really like to get his position."

Sage denies that rugby league could struggle for healthy crowds in AFL-mad Perth.

"I think you would have a core membership of 10,000," he said.

"If you look at South Sydney, they have come to NIB Stadium for, I think, four years in a row, and their average crowd has been 15,000.

"I know nib Stadium inside out. I know what it takes to make money. There are a lot of expats in Perth who want rugby league week-to-week."

Sage believes sponsors will fllod to be involved in the proposed club, pointing to the backing enjoyed by Perth Scorchers in the inaugural KFC T20 Big Bash League.

"Look at the Perth Scorchers in the Twenty-20," Sage said.

"Atlas, a mining company, sponsored them. It is the first time they have been involved in sponsorship.

"These companies have grown from junior mining companies worth $3 million or $4 million. Atlas in two years is now worth $3 billion.

"They've got social responsibility now. They are like the BHP and Rio. There are 20 or 30 of these companies that have grown up in Perth. These companies want to get their name out there, and they want to sponsor things. Sponsorship wouldn't be a problem."

Sage believes his Perth Glory staff could work through summer with soccer and then winter with NRL.

"The seasons are different so staff working on membership and sponsorship with Perth Glory can move across because of the different seasons," he said.

"Any new clubs that starts up, the salaries alone will soak up on the admin side $1.5 million.

"I've already got that in place.

"I know virtually every major sponsor in WA."

Sage, however, accepts the proposed new NRL club will lose money in the short term.

"You've got to accept that there will be losses," he said. "For example, I have spent $10 million of my own money propping up Perth Glory.

"It makes losses every year. But you do it for two reasons. One, because you like the game and, two, you want to have a legacy in WA; and that is I saved the Glory otherwise they would have gone bankrupt and closed."

Sage said of his meeting with Gallop on Tuesday: "We just want to know whether WA is on the radar.

"We want to know if the vision going forward is expansion.

"If it's not, we'll shut up shop.

"I'd like to know whether we would be wasting our time if Perth isn't a chance to get a licence."

Asked if he would start pushing forward if Gallop were interested in expansion, Sage said: "Absolutely. If 2015 is the start date then you have to get cracking now to assemble a side."

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I would assume this is certainly on the radar, but it all depends on how big a comp the IC wants the comp to be. Maybe a relocation of a current side would be on the cards as well? These guys though look like they want to set something up from scratch.
 
As I have said previously imo the Sharks are the perfect fit for WA and the quicker the IC recognizes this the better
 
@happy tiger said:
As I have said previously imo the Sharks are the perfect fit for WA and the quicker the IC recognizes this the better

I've said this previously, if there is going to be a relocation, you cant send a club that is struggling and has little to no appeal outside there own 'tribal' area. A New Franchise will get a 1 year honeymoon period of "WOW, we have a team". After that, results on the field will be the deciding factor if the fans will support them. No one goes back to buy dodgy fish & chips!!!

Alot of people on here are very quick to relocate every other team bar there own. If you want to look at perfect fits, I think the Wests Tigers are a perfect fit for WA… OUCH!
 
@Tiger Watto said:
@happy tiger said:
As I have said previously imo the Sharks are the perfect fit for WA and the quicker the IC recognizes this the better

I've said this previously, if there is going to be a relocation, you cant send a club that is struggling and has little to no appeal outside there own 'tribal' area. A New Franchise will get a 1 year honeymoon period of "WOW, we have a team". After that, results on the field will be the deciding factor if the fans will support them. No one goes back to buy dodgy fish & chips!!!

Alot of people on here are very quick to relocate every other team bar there own. If you want to look at perfect fits, I think the Wests Tigers are a perfect fit for WA… OUCH!

I hope you are organizing all the flights and accomodation for us then Watto 😱pen_mouth:
 
:laughing: I'd have no problem travelling to WA to watch my team… Its just a longer flight than I currently take.

Obviously the Tigers wont be relocated... They have made a massive sacrifice to remain in the NRL, just like St George Illawarra. Its someone elses turn! Oh Russell....
 
I'd love to see Perth back in the comp. However, this guy doesn't really seem that interested in rugby league. He talks more about cost savings for his soccer team…

I'm just worried that at the first chance he gets, he'll pull out and the whole thing will be a mess. The WARL bid has more solid foundations and I'd feel a lot more safe with them.
 
Interesting to read the comments on the newspaper websites in regards to this story .
Seems a few people are keen for the Western Suburbs Magpies to relocate (maybe renamed Western Magpies?)
Wonder where that would leave the JV? :crazy
 
@cktiger said:
Interesting to read the comments on the newspaper websites in regards to this story .
Seems a few people are keen for the Western Suburbs Magpies to relocate (maybe renamed Western Magpies?)
Wonder where that would leave the JV? :crazy

Maybe this is an oportunity for the Joint Venture… They could operate 2 NRL Franchises, one named Western Magpies and the other East Coast Tigers? Coinsidering we are currently a Private Company, it would have its benifits!

Think of the Junior Nursery based in Macarthur and Perth to feed both Franchises...
 
@Tiger Watto said:
@cktiger said:
Interesting to read the comments on the newspaper websites in regards to this story .
Seems a few people are keen for the Western Suburbs Magpies to relocate (maybe renamed Western Magpies?)
Wonder where that would leave the JV? :crazy

Maybe this is an oportunity for the Joint Venture… They could operate 2 NRL Franchises, one named Western Magpies and the other East Coast Tigers? Coinsidering we are currently a Private Company, it would have its benifits!

Think of the Junior Nursery based in Macarthur and Perth to feed both Franchises...

Easts Coast Tigers ?? What barrow are you trying to push there Watto ??
 
This comment worries me:

Sage believes his Perth Glory staff could work through summer with soccer and then winter with NRL.
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"The seasons are different so staff working on membership and sponsorship with Perth Glory can move across because of the different seasons," he said.
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"Any new clubs that starts up, the salaries alone will soak up on the admin side $1.5 million.
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"I've already got that in place.

To me earning members should be a year round job. The more the club names gets out to the public, the better.

To me splitting it will not work properly, especially when you are a new club trying to get as many members as possible. Just look at the focus on membership the AFL has done with the Gold Coast Suns and GWS.
 
@Tiger Watto said:
Sage, a mining magnate who owns A-League club Perth Glory, and consortium partner Ben Elias, the Balmain Tigers great, have a $20 million budget and also have Andrew Johns in their sights to join the proposed team.

Let me guess, the $20m has been placed in the "Ben Elias Holding Company Pty Ltd"?
 
Benny ELIA$. The bloke who the Balmain faithful put the development of Balmain Leagues, their hopes and dreams in his lap, for him to abandon them, leaving them in financial squaller.

The bloke that refuses to say the word 'Wests' when he talks about the Wests Tigers.

The bloke who in 2005 along with Paul SIRONEN did a lap of honor around the stadium when WESTS Tigers won the comp making out as if he had won a comp.

The bloke that puts personal profit ahead of everything, including his alleged 'Beloved Tigers'.

The bloke sickens me. He did the dirty on the Rozelle project, then he hooked up with Max Delmege at Manly, whilst the Balmain Leagues club was rotting away as a rat infested delapedated building, ELIA$ sat in private boxes at Brookvale oval eating prawns and oysters and drinking champagne, and then he bails out on Delemege when several of Benny's ideas turned sour and personally lost Delmege millions.

Where is ELIA$ now? in the pocket of another millionaire, involving himself in another profit making venture.

Look out WESTS Tigers, I would not put is past 'Balmain' Benny to court Robbie and Benji to this Perth franchise.

You watch, it will happen.
 
I must admit I'm a little disappointed that Benny is involved in this.

While I never played for the Tigers my love for Balmain and Wests Tigers would keep me from having anything to do with any other franchise/club regardless of the potential dollars that could be earned.

Isn't Benny still on the WT's board?
 
@tigerbenji said:
Honestly does anybody think there is enough quality players to go around for another team to start up?.

The way I see it is

More teams = More games = More TV money = Higher NRL grant = Higher salary cap = Less players taking the money in England = More quality players staying in the NRL.

Ideally…
 
@Balmain Bug said:
Benny ELIA$. The bloke who the Balmain faithful put the development of Balmain Leagues, their hopes and dreams in his lap, for him to abandon them, leaving them in financial squaller.

The bloke that refuses to say the word 'Wests' when he talks about the Wests Tigers.

The bloke who in 2005 along with Paul SIRONEN did a lap of honor around the stadium when WESTS Tigers won the comp making out as if he had won a comp.

The bloke that puts personal profit ahead of everything, including his alleged 'Beloved Tigers'.

The bloke sickens me. He did the dirty on the Rozelle project, then he hooked up with Max Delmege at Manly, whilst the Balmain Leagues club was rotting away as a rat infested delapedated building, ELIA$ sat in private boxes at Brookvale oval eating prawns and oysters and drinking champagne, and then he bails out on Delemege when several of Benny's ideas turned sour and personally lost Delmege millions.

Where is ELIA$ now? in the pocket of another millionaire, involving himself in another profit making venture.

Look out WESTS Tigers, I would not put is past 'Balmain' Benny to court Robbie and Benji to this Perth franchise.

You watch, it will happen.

Tremendous synopsis - one of your best Bug.
 

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