Our forward pack, notable weaknesses.

[Needaname]

Everyone is talking about our toughness and it’s there in attitude and most obvious in defence, however there are still quite a few deficiencies present.
So in fairness, if we are going to call out our high paid players Brooks and Moses weaknesses
Garner clearly is our weakest link in the defensive line. Never uses his shoulder in any tackles. Too much arm grabbing for my liking.
Also gave up an early penalty in the game for being offside.
ET, directly responsible for all 6 again restarts for the duration of his time on the field. first replaced when Twal comes back.
We have no leg drive in our runs.
Mikale looks the only likely prop to get forward momentum for us.

 

[JC99]

Elijah Taylor can’t be on the bench anymore he is rubbish. Hopefully with Twal back Eiso takes his bench spot.

 

[OzLuke]

how long till musgrove is back?? I like him and Mikaele alternating playing time.....or having them both belt it up at once he was a big loss

 

[Tigerbuck63]

Unsure about Garner's game have not watched him much may pay closer attention next time we play, he does seem to drop in and out of the squad so means that Madge is not 100% convinced on him.
ET well we all know he gives away too many penalties and the game is too fast for him even prior to the new format, its the last year on his contract and would be surprised that Madge keeps him along with most of the others that come off contract this year apart from maybe 2.
Upon reflection i would of rather seen Packer play than Taylor last game so we had more aggression and go forward.
Will Twal be back this week? and Musgrove quite a few weeks away.

 

[InBenjiWeTrust]

Our 2nd tier forwards ware solid, keep in mind we missed Twal, Mosgrove and McIntary. The good thing is they never gave up, and we could easily win against one of the most expensive teams in the nrl + ref.
Aloiai again impressed me, in his current form he is one of the best props in the nrl, he must be considered for the SOO.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Elijah Taylor can’t be on the bench anymore he is rubbish. Hopefully with Twal back Eiso takes his bench spot.

He’s not rubbish. The speed of the game just doesn’t suit him now.

 

[Geo]

how long till musgrove is back?? I like him and Mikaele alternating playing time.....or having them both belt it up at once he was a big loss

Musgrove is a long way away doubt he will be back this year..

Twal hopefully this week..

 

[Tcat]

Everyone is talking about our toughness and it’s there in attitude and most obvious in defence, however there are still quite a few deficiencies present.
So in fairness, if we are going to call out our high paid players Brooks and Moses weaknesses
Garner clearly is our weakest link in the defensive line. Never uses his shoulder in any tackles. Too much arm grabbing for my liking.
Also gave up an early penalty in the game for being offside.
ET, directly responsible for all 6 again restarts for the duration of his time on the field. first replaced when Twal comes back.
We have no leg drive in our runs.
Mikale looks the only likely prop to get forward momentum for us.

I think Aloiai is a strong runner also.

 

[mike]

how long till musgrove is back?? I like him and Mikaele alternating playing time.....or having them both belt it up at once he was a big loss

Musgrove is a long way away doubt he will be back this year..

Twal hopefully this week..

Musgrove is a loss, would have helped.

 

[JC99]

Elijah Taylor can’t be on the bench anymore he is rubbish. Hopefully with Twal back Eiso takes his bench spot.

He’s not rubbish. The speed of the game just doesn’t suit him now.

He gets smashed every time he runs the footy and gives away penalties for fun. Was a great player in his day but offers literally nothing anymore. Would rather the rookies play over him.

 

[Roar_Power]

Elijah won’t be around in 2021. If a 2nd rower like CHN is picked up, I would be surprised if Garner sees much first grade. Maybe from the bench.

 

[tonza]

Elijah won’t be around in 2021. If a 2nd rower like CHN is picked up, I would be surprised if Garner sees much first grade. Maybe from the bench.

I have no doubt, if were lucky enough to get CHN, that Garner would be on the bench, however he would still be good to have Garner coming off the bench. More punch than we have right at this time.

 

[Alex Seyfarth's #1 Fan]

Garner is still developing. He has only played 28 games and is 24 years of age. He has shown enough glimpses in every department to suggest he could be a top quality player. Maybe one level below a rep player. If we persist with him he will turn good. Otherwise, I could quite easily see him ripping it up at another club. He's the exact type of player the Roosters would turn into a gun - a player another club couldn't be bothered properly developing.

 

[Deleted member 3518]

Garner is still developing. He has only played 28 games and is 24 years of age. He has shown enough glimpses in every department to suggest he could be a top quality player. Maybe one level below a rep player. If we persist with him he will turn good. Otherwise, I could quite easily see him ripping it up at another club. He's the exact type of player the Roosters would turn into a gun - a player another club couldn't be bothered properly developing.

He made one of our only line breaks the other night . And he looked dangerous every time he had the ball. His defence needs work , but that’s more training than anything . He was a back most of his juniors wasn’t he ?

 

[Lauren]

I don't like to say this because I do have an appreciation for these boys and what they're doing for the team, but it was kinda to be expected tbh, considering the majority of our recruits are/were fringe first graders or cast offs from other struggling teams(at the time). There'd be nothing wrong with that except the team's overall construction from Ivan was of the same or a similar quality.

This is why I think Madge has been the best possible buy for us. He's no-nonsense and his approach on our team has been unlike Seibold or even Ivan at Panthers, he's working toward building a competitive team with someone else's roster but is yet to make an excuse.

 

[Fade.To.Black]

Garner is still developing. He has only played 28 games and is 24 years of age. He has shown enough glimpses in every department to suggest he could be a top quality player. Maybe one level below a rep player. If we persist with him he will turn good. Otherwise, I could quite easily see him ripping it up at another club. He's the exact type of player the Roosters would turn into a gun - a player another club couldn't be bothered properly developing.

Curious to which other players you are crediting the Roosters for "properly developing when another club couldn't be bothered"? Pretty sure all their good players from other clubs were good players before the Roosters pilfered them.

 

[Geo]

He was a back most of his juniors wasn’t he ?

No..Came to Wests as a back rower..played in the backs out of necessity similar to how McIntyre and even Seyfath has at times..

But once he moved into the backrow in ISP he blossomed was named Captian that season and earnt an NRL upgrade..

 

[twentyforty]

I don't like to say this because I do have an appreciation for these boys and what they're doing for the team, but it was kinda to be expected tbh, considering the majority of our recruits are/were fringe first graders or cast offs from other struggling teams(at the time). There'd be nothing wrong with that except the team's overall construction from Ivan was of the same or a similar quality.

This is why I think Madge has been the best possible buy for us. He's no-nonsense and his approach on our team has been unlike Seibold or even Ivan at Panthers, he's working toward building a competitive team with someone else's roster but is yet to make an excuse.

Agree, give Madge at the very least another full off season after this next one before making any harsh judgement on the playing roster. After 9 rounds in 2005 we had a let a lot more tries in and had only won 2 games.

 

[Needaname]

Garner is still developing. He has only played 28 games and is 24 years of age. He has shown enough glimpses in every department to suggest he could be a top quality player. Maybe one level below a rep player. If we persist with him he will turn good. Otherwise, I could quite easily see him ripping it up at another club. He's the exact type of player the Roosters would turn into a gun - a player another club couldn't be bothered properly developing.

He made one of our only line breaks the other night . And he looked dangerous every time he had the ball. His defence needs work , but that’s more training than anything . He was a back most of his juniors wasn’t he ?

Sure his attack is decent, quick enough to hit a hole and has decent upper body strength.
In his defence there is just no shoulder he quite often gets carried for metres until the tackle is made and makes it tougher for Reynolds to get the man down.
You’ll notice it more next week defending with Benji. He needs to aim up with his body.

 

[mike]

Garner is still developing. He has only played 28 games and is 24 years of age. He has shown enough glimpses in every department to suggest he could be a top quality player. Maybe one level below a rep player. If we persist with him he will turn good. Otherwise, I could quite easily see him ripping it up at another club. He's the exact type of player the Roosters would turn into a gun - a player another club couldn't be bothered properly developing.

Garner is a keeper.