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Spartan117 said:
Absolutely incorrect @earl

On matters Tigers, I respect yr opinions .

The radical and greedy inner-city Activists have lost and now they blame mis-information.

Yes. Misrepresented what they wanted from the beginning.

This is a victory for all Australians
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I found it funny one person on twitter posted one little screen shot of what they believe was being added to the constitution if the yes got up

John Howard criticized Albo when Albo said he didn't have to read the 28 pages of change to the constitution
 
I didn't speak to one person in the long lead-up to the referendum yesterday who was against recognition of First Nations people in the Constitution. Nor did I speak to one person who was against "closing the gap" in all those key areas where there is genuine disadvantage for First Nations peoples.
But 60% of Australians voted no yesterday. I did too. I think the simple reason why people voted no despite generally supporting the need for change was because they didn't believe "The Voice" was the correct mechanism for the necessary change.
What should happen now is a genuine bipartisan commitment to finding the best mechanism for change and making it happen.
 
coivtny said:
What should happen now is a genuine bipartisan commitment to finding the best mechanism for change and making it happen.
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I'd like to see this happen but I think it's unlikely in today's political age. There is too much extremism.
 
coivtny said:
I didn't speak to one person in the long lead-up to the referendum yesterday who was against recognition of First Nations people in the Constitution. Nor did I speak to one person who was against "closing the gap" in all those key areas where there is genuine disadvantage for First Nations peoples.
But 60% of Australians voted no yesterday. I did too. I think the simple reason why people voted no despite generally supporting the need for change was because they didn't believe "The Voice" was the correct mechanism for the necessary change.
What should happen now is a genuine bipartisan commitment to finding the best mechanism for change and making it happen.
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Very well said also it would be nice to audit the 40 billion that is giving to them every year on top of what the general public is entitled to

NT all voted No and I find that strange but there is stories that most of the money doesn't get to them is taken up by the private companies making money off them with inflated salarys and over charging on services

They was a company in Sydney a.friend of mine worked for and they made my mate get a cert 5 training certificate and some other employees get the same

They hired some rooms in mascot and started training Aboriginal people how to fill out a job application and what to wear to a job interview this was about 15 years ago a.5 day course and

For each Aboriginal that turned up on day 1 they received $3700 tax free in his class that he trained day 1 was about 15 people on average and by the end of it 5/6 people and they received a certificate but the company on some weeks received so much money his best week they made $74000

He quit in the end
 
Hopefully we develop a good way to improve things for Indigenous people. Not sure what that looks like. Politicians last night showed it's more of the same from them, blaming each other and turning it into a contest. Albo no responsibility and disconnected from working class Australia, while Dutton proposing more politicians doing things to Indigenous people not by them. Think we're exactly where we've always been on the issues and I don't see it leading to a cohesive and effective approach.
 
twentyforty said:
Are we allowed to discuss this?
I noticed Thomas Mayo was at Wests Ashfield talking about the result, saying it was Peter Duttons fault the yes vote didn’t get up.
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Of course it was Dutton's fault, he should never have pointed out all the flaws in the YES campaign and shown the voting public what a dickhead Albo actually is, although Albo did a pretty good job of that on his own.
 
Odessa said:
Very well said also it would be nice to audit the 40 billion that is giving to them every year on top of what the general public is entitled to

NT all voted No and I find that strange but there is stories that most of the money doesn't get to them is taken up by the private companies making money off them with inflated salarys and over charging on services

They was a company in Sydney a.friend of mine worked for and they made my mate get a cert 5 training certificate and some other employees get the same

They hired some rooms in mascot and started training Aboriginal people how to fill out a job application and what to wear to a job interview this was about 15 years ago a.5 day course and

For each Aboriginal that turned up on day 1 they received $3700 tax free in his class that he trained day 1 was about 15 people on average and by the end of it 5/6 people and they received a certificate but the company on some weeks received so much money his best week they made $74000

He quit in the end
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The sad thing is I fully believe that story. Whenever you have a program that aims to assist people through the provision of funding there will always be parasites ready to rip it off. The NDIS is the latest example. Child care rebates are another. The parasites are mostly not the people who the programs aim to assist but service providers who set themselves to provide services to those in need.
 
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