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Needaname

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I don’t understand how Third party payments off the cap are even a thing how can that be drawn up in a contract and registered with the nrl? The nrl is ment to be an even playing field thanks to the cap? So stupid the nrl clubs shouldn’t have anything to do with third party payments it should all be on the players if Gatorade wants to sponsee them that’s fine it’s all up to the players to organise it with there managers
They aren’t drawn up in a contract. Or if they have been, the contracted club has no affiliation with the deal.
From my understanding that officially means the 3rd party deal can’t come from a club sponsor or a club affiliated financier.
I don’t think it stops the club introducing a mate of staff or CEO/chairman to the players manager.

Just on that though.
Have a look at the roosters squad and also consider that in a released report surrounding salary cap affiliated 3rd party deals; the roosters had one of the lowest amounts of players on 3pd. To the tune of about $200k over the cap. From memory we even had more.
 

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So how is it that the Dogs can fit everyone in that they’ve signed or are going for, particularly if he pays them what they’re worth?
I read on the Parra forum that they provide shares in the Laundy Group of pubs as 3rd party deals.

How true that is who knows.
 

Needaname

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The Laundy Family are reported to be worth 1.4 billion and owners of 70 Hotels across NSW and QLD.

Sounds like Uncle Nick and Easts now have a challenger for their successful business model which most clubs cannot compete with in terms of 3rd party deals.

WT need to find some very wealthy supporters.
He is apparently a WT supporter. Were we asleep at the wheel?
1st Jaycar now Laundry.
 

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The Laundy Family are reported to be worth 1.4 billion and owners of 70 Hotels across NSW and QLD.

Sounds like Uncle Nick and Easts now have a challenger for their successful business model which most clubs cannot compete with in terms of 3rd party deals.

WT need to find some very wealthy supporters.
They are also major sponsor of the Budogs, which means they cannot provide TPA’s to them. At least that’s what our club was told 🙄
 

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Everything comes back to the system we have in place, that was introduced to spread talent, make teams more even and stop clubs going broke. It would appear the only thing that has worked is, no club has gone belly up, although a few came close.

As nothing is likely to change in the near future because certain teams sway massive influence over how the comp is run, the only answer is to follow the lead of certain teams and do the same. Bend the rules or even break the rules is the only way forward, along with a really good pathways systems
 

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If he can get more elsewhere good luck to him. If you are referring to Brooks if he stays his deal will be restructured similar to what occurred with Chris Lawrence. He will be a one club player like Lawrence which is a fine achievement,
In general

Best Players should be on the Best Salary.

Is brooks our Best Player, Would Mitch Moses be our Best player? If so then there are no issues
 

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NRL will just turn a blind eye to it. TPAs beed to go as its not a fair playing field. I hope today’s rumoured meet goes well with MM, not holding my breath
Disagree I reckon if you got done for a 2nd major salary cap violation the NRL will swamp you

Dogs got done badly early 2000's
 

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Everything comes back to the system we have in place, that was introduced to spread talent, make teams more even and stop clubs going broke. It would appear the only thing that has worked is, no club has gone belly up, although a few came close.

As nothing is likely to change in the near future because certain teams sway massive influence over how the comp is run, the only answer is to follow the lead of certain teams and do the same. Bend the rules or even break the rules is the only way forward, along with a really good pathways systems
True.
Two clubs, Sydney based that have really fought to break out of the mould is the Rabbitohs (little brother of the highly fancied and Publicised Easts Team) and Penrith (Same deal with the much larger profile Parramatta)
 

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The new salary cap increase should have been released prior 1 November so clubs can sort there roster out, absurd.
 

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It’s the same as the current cap.

“$0.094m - Motor Vehicle Allowance – a maximum amount of five motor vehicles may be provided to players in the Top 30 outside of the salary cap. (Valued at $18,800 each).”
 

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I read on the Parra forum that they provide shares in the Laundy Group of pubs as 3rd party deals.

How true that is who knows.
They would be 2nd party deals due to the relationship Laundy Group has with the club. My understanding is that 2nd party deals are registered with the nrl and limited to a specified monetary value?
3rd party deals otoh, are a matter for the arms length entity and the player, and have no such restriction.
 

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the excuse that no one is getting signed because of the uncertainty around the final figure on the salary cap is toss swoddle,figures are rubbery,ask any one with basic maths.throw 5 darts at the top 8 and you will hit 4 clubs rorting the cap,
 
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