Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[jirskyr]

I reckon playing next to Burton, and already having a playing relationship with Mahoney would be tempting for Moses. They are short a couple of players but I think we would be very happy to have all of their recent upgrades - and if they get Crichton as well they will there abouts.

Why would that be any different playing next to his childhood friend Brooks, service from Api and his playing relationship with IP?

 

[hsvjones]

Why would that be any different playing next to his childhood friend Brooks, service from Api and his playing relationship with IP?

Agree and IMO I think Api is a better hooker than Mahoney..
Hopefully Robbie was in Moses ear everyday at the WC too

 

[WT2019]

90% chance he said

Really. I was there watching him and his mate in the white Tshirt for most if his short stay?

 

[Telltails]

Why would that be any different playing next to his childhood friend Brooks, service from Api and his playing relationship with IP?

He chose to leave his childhood mate once you would have to ask him that question - not everything revolves around Luke Brooks.
Based on what Burton has shown to date I would say any 7 would be tempted to play beside him. Together they would have one the strongest kicking games in the competition aside from their other skills.

 

[tony soprano]

God help Lee Hepatitis B. This guy should just stick being a lawyer. nothing more nothing less.

He's like a kid at Christmas when it comes to rugby league

 

[WT46]

i reckon we wont know until next year. so dont waste your time peeps.

 

[WT46]

so moses got a clause that he can stay an eel in 2024. so that means we wont get him till 2025 if he does sign on?

 

[KingRobbie]

so moses got a clause that he can stay an eel in 2024. so that means we wont get him till 2025 if he does sign on?

No.

The clause is in his favour so he gets to decide whether he takes it up or not.

If we were to sign him it would be for 2024, unless the clubs could negotiate an early release for 2023.

 

[tony soprano]

Lees not the bloke that posted it on a public forum…,

Who know if it's true.

 

[Bones]

What difference does it make if Lee says he's confident or not? Either Dogs beat the Tigers deal, or are a better proposition, or they are not.

You really reckon word gets back to Bulldogs that Lee H is confident, via some rando at the Fan Day, so then they up their offer?

People jumping at shadows. If that was their aim I’m pretty confident his management would be taking the offer back to the dogs themselves to get more money, not relying on chinese whispers from an Internet forum 😆

All the club can do is negotiate in good faith and judge by the feedback they receive from the other party. Sounds positive to me.

 

[supercoach]

Why would be pay one cent for Doueihi's contract ? Moses would be on more than Doueihi and he is at Parra. If it's for 24 then both their contracts are going to be new contracts.

The point is that Parra would have to agree to swap Moses for Doueihi next season and probably Parra would have to offer him a new and upgraded contract. We wouldn't chuck in for that. Doueihi could decide to leave for the same money he is on now and Parra would gain some space in their cap.

There would be so much to happen for this to occur though.

If we do sign Moses then maybe they can get him a year earlier but Parra didn't give up Stef or IP after we signed them.

Does Parra even want Doueihi ?

Iam talking 2023. What I am saying is maybe Parra might consider moving on Moses if they get something out of the deal. Iam sure they would not touch AD at 900 but maybe we pick up some of contract they might be interested. Anyway the chances are he will be off to Belmore so it really doesn’t matter

 

[WT2019]

Iam talking 2023. What I am saying is maybe Parra might consider moving on Moses if they get something out of the deal. Iam sure they would not touch AD at 900 but maybe we pick up some of contract they might be interested. Anyway the chances are he will be off to Belmore so it really doesn’t matter

Yep that his I see this playing out SC

 

[Bartschy]

Hear anything else champ?

Sheens just smiled when asked if Bateman was a done deal

 

[SeanT]

Why would you have no idea you were on 99? Doesn't say much about you as a cricketer.

Mate have you played bush cricket? I'd me on my tenth tinnie by then. Wouldn't keep count at allm

 

[Kelce68]

Lee's an easy target.

But he's not the reason we haven't landed the big fish.

The fact we're perpetually unsuccessful and extremely undesirable is.

 

[earl]

What I am saying is maybe Parra might consider moving on Moses if they get something out of the deal. Iam sure they would not touch AD at 900 but maybe we pick up some of contract they might be interested.

That is the thing. Doueihi is after big bucks on his next contract. It's not for next season. Parra would get cap relief if they swapped Moses for Doueihi for next season all other things being equal. Sure we might be able to chuck in more money to sweeten the deal but there would be a lot of stuff to happen for that to work.

I honestly don't think it matters though. Just try and get him for 24 and see what happens from that point on.

 

[carltonleach]

I reckon playing next to Burton, and already having a playing relationship with Mahoney would be tempting for Moses. They are short a couple of players but I think we would be very happy to have all of their recent upgrades - and if they get Crichton as well they will there abouts.

He’s had that same playing relationship with pap and stef to a less extent

 

[teddy23]

I really don’t know how to feel it seems very out in the open right now - doubt even Moses knows where he wants to go.... however seems like we’ll find out within the next fortnight

The quick timing of his expected decision before the start of the year gives me some confidence he might be coming here as we’ve been chasing him pretty hard - the fact we’re also delaying Bateman’s signing too (both players managed by Isaac Moses) gives me extra hope as we might be trying to figure out how we’re gonna structure both contracts

Bulldogs noise is getting a little louder recently, but they seem to have there attention at Stephen Crithcon... with Ciraldo having a close bond with him too

Parra seem to be overlooked too - he very well could go back but the word around town is that won’t be the case... interesting times ahead

 

[SeanT]

Lee's an easy target.

But he's not the reason we haven't landed the big fish.

The fact we're perpetually unsuccessful and extremely undesirable is.

What's easy got to do with it? Would these players came without lee talking? No. But the things he speaks about recruitment is not the time or the place in the media. Pascoe and him need to be on a leash and worry less about the players and more about their actually duties.

 

[happy_tiger]

cont...

ROSTER WOES
If all eyes weren’t already on Brooks, they will be next season.
The big-name, big-money playmaker is the Tigers’ only halfback option as it stands after the club decided to release Jackson Hastings to the Knights in a swap deal for David Klemmer.
Handy back-up Jock Madden and utility Tyrone Peachey have also exited, leaving the Tigers alarmingly slim in the halves with just one Top 30 spot spare.
Hastings arrived to Concord with fellow Super League recruit Oliver Gildart and brought with them a sense of hope. After all, Hastings was the 2019 Man of Steel and had turned his career around, while Gildart was an English international that was highly rated in the UK.
But Gildart spent a lot of his time at the Tigers in reserve grade, joined the Roosters on a loan deal and then got an early release to join the Dolphins in 2023.
Hastings finished the season playing lock despite being a specialist halfback and then was shipped off to the Knights.
It was a sad ending for two players that were touted as the Tigers’ big recruits heading into 2022.
Nailing recruitment an retention is a non-negotiable for the successful clubs but it’s been a sore point for the Tigers even before Maguire’s time.
It was two-time premiership-winning coach Ivan Cleary that signed off on big-money deals for Russell Packer, Josh Reynolds and Moses Mbye.

Cleary was also at the helm when the club lost James Tedesco to the Roosters.
And for what it’s worth Jason Taylor was head coach when a young Ryan Papenhuyzen and little-known Josh Addo-Carr slipped through the cracks.
Then there’s the bungled Benji Marshall exit, which was under Maguire’s reign. The Tigers icon may have found his way back to the club but it’s hard to forget that he had to read in the newspaper that he wouldn’t be offered a new deal beyond 2020.


The Hastings decision has left a lot of fans scratching their heads — and the announcement garnered a big reaction on social media.
CEO Justin Pascoe hit back at the critics declaring in a statement: “Not everyone will be happy with some of the decisions we make, but we do not apologise for these decisions.”
And Roach backs the club on this one.
“I’m a bit of a realist. I didn’t quite get the hype about his season,” he said.
“He was doing a lot, but I don’t know whether he was really doing a lot on the field with the amount of times he handled the ball and the drop-off plays.
“I’m sure he’ll do well for Newcastle but for me, I found there were a lot of words in his season — there was a lot of talk.
“I think Tim Sheens is smart enough without saying anything to see through that.”
Hastings, at the very least, brought that never-say-die attitude that the Tigers had been missing. He was also a fan favourite — that’s why Pascoe knew it would ruffle some feathers.

Time will tell if it was the right call or not.

Sheens clearly has a vision for the club.
In exchange for Hastings he got a veteran prop to add to a forward pack that’s starting to turn heads.
Klemmer turned back the clock last season as one of the Knights’ best. He’s also got 194 NRL games under his belt as well as 19 games for Australia and 14 for New South Wales.
“He’s one of those guys where you know what you’re going to get every week,” Roach said.
“Dave’s been doing it for a long time now, he’s a big body and has a big presence and he loves the game.
“I think he’ll be good for the Tigers, especially with those young blokes coming through. You’ve got to learn from the older blokes about how to be professional and what’s expected, so you need those guys in and around the club.”
Koroisau is a “great buy” according to Roach — and everyone in the game would likely agree. The 30-year-old is a three-time premiership-winner and one of the best No.9s going around.
“He’s a world class hooker, he knows how to bring blokes onto the ball and knows what’s needed to win,” Roach said.

Throw in Isaiah Papali’i — one of the most damaging second-rower’s in the NRL — as well as John Bateman, who the club is tipped to land, and all of a sudden the Tigers go from a last resort option for players to a club with promise.
And Roach wants to see them capitalise off that.


“The biggest problem when you’re down the bottom, everyone knows what you need to do and what you need to get but the hardest part is attracting players and convincing people you’re on the way up,” he said.
“Now that we’ve attracted Koroisau and Papali’i, we have to go after a superstar, someone that can break games up.”
Is that player Mitchell Moses?
“No I don’t think so,” Roach answered.
“I’d like to have him back there, he’s a world-class halfback but I’m talking about a strike matchwinner like a Tom Trbojevic or a Latrell Mitchell.”
The Tigers are in the hunt for Moses and are said to be willing to pay the star halfback over $1 million a season for him to return to the club he made his NRL debut at.
Peel back the glitz and glamour of the marquee players that can deliver now and you’ll find the club’s pathways system is starting to boom.
The Tigers are just one of three NRL clubs that have more than one team in the Harold Matthews Cup (under 17s) and SG Ball (under 19s).
Their Western Suburbs Magpies side claimed the Harold Matthews premiership this year, the Balmain Tigers made the finals in SG Ball and the Wests Tigers’ Jersey Flegg side also made the finals.

The Macarthur Wests Tigers made the Andrew Johns Cup grand final and made the finals in the Laurie Daley Cup (under 16s and 18s regional NSW representative competitions respectively).
The Tigers’ NSW Cup side struggled this year, but only because the club used that grade to fast track the development of emerging talent, who were still young enough to play Flegg.
20-year-old Fonua Pole took that challenge in his stride and was rewarded with an NRL debut — and retained his spot in the 17 for the remainder of the season too.
As did 19-year-old second-rower Justin Matamua, who progressed from SG Ball right through to NRL in the one season.
Kitione Kautoga, who is tipped for NRL stardom one day, also got a taste of first grade late in the year.
But Roach warned these exciting prospects won’t mean anything if the club’s ducks aren’t all in a row up top.
“You’ve got to be realistic,” he said.
“If you’re great in the lower grades, that’s fantastic but how many players actually make it through to first grade?
“Those kids can’t do anything more than what they’re doing now and the experience of blokes like Klemmer and Koroisau will help... But I don’t pin my hopes on my club having good juniors.”
The Tigers are destined for improvement next season. A premiership is probably a bridge too far, but if everything goes right they could break that 11-year finals drought.
However Roach is just happy to see his club making positive moves.
“At least now there’s movement, they’ve gone out onto the market and made changes,” he said.

“They’re doing something and I’m getting excited about what they’re doing — they’re trying rather than just going through the motions.”

If everything goes right ...haven't I heard that before somewhere

Dolphins are legit. They've got decades of history on the Redcliffe peninsula and a really strong, grass roots culture in North Brisbane. They're fine.

Titans, and the gold coast in general on the other hand, is a graveyard.

Dunno Dude ...they looked like a shambles ...don't even have an official NRL site yet ......that's unprofessional

I'll argue this until the day I die but they should have gone to Ipswich or Toowoomba ....Redcliffe is just the most northern suburb of Brisbane

Footy fans from this area either became Brisbane Broncos fans or stuck with your original NSWRL club

Ipswich hates Brisbane and so does Toowoomba .......and Ipswich is one of the biggest growth areas in Australia

The Lions haven't moved their headquarters to Springfield because it is nice and pretty