Stewart v Gallop

[Marshall_magic]

End of the day, Brett has every right to still feel anger towards what is seen by some as unjust. I don't like Manly, but I think an apology was well and truly deserved months ago …

The thing is, Gallop has had an open offer to Brett since the start of the season to talk things over in his office. Brett hasn't taken him up on his offer, yet carries on like a child about it. It's clear Manly have used it as part of the seige tactics this season, now they have their premiership surely Des and co will tell Brett to have that meeting with Gallop.

 

[MightyMaggy]

Gallop was vindicated in suspending Stewart for 4 games when the allegations came about. IMO, it would have looked embarrassing for the game rewarding a player who, at the time, was alleged to have got pissed out of his tree at a season launch and sexually assaulted somebody. The incident occured well over two years ago and why he is still holding a grudge against Gallop for it, is contrary to reason.

Then to have to audacity to ask for an 'apology' on stage when collecting his premiership ring and medal further defies belief. What does he have to apologise for? Trying his best to protect the game bought into disrepute by Stewart and his off-field antics? Has Stewart taken into account how much bad publicity the NRL received as a result of his off-field behaviour? Does he understand how to conduct himself when he's a high-profile player and he's the 'face' of the game? Clearly not, somebody needs to tell him to give up any puerile wish he may have of receiving an 'apology' from the very man who tried to protect the image of the game and gave him the honourable role of being the 'face' of the game, an honour many would embrace and dream of throughout their career.

Until this guy starts being accountable for his actions and doesn't look to blame others for his own wrongdoings, I will continue to have a very low opinion of him. He needs a psychologist of some sort, his attitude is terrible and hasn't showed any signs of changing.

This post says it all. Congratulations citizen cub, as you got it right, where others have conveniently "left out" some of the facts to push their view-point.

 

[imZerroo]

Look at it this way …

1\. If it was Benji suspended for being drunk would we be up in arms and expecting an apology ? YES
2\. If it was you who had your reputation tarnished and dragged through the mud, would you still be angry about it ? YES
3\. If you were the only player in recent times the NRL banned when others have done similar thing, would you be angry still ? YES

End of the day, Brett has every right to still feel anger towards what is seen by some as unjust. I don't like Manly, but I think an apology was well and truly deserved months ago ...

it's the stage at which he asked for an apology which is the issue Genoshan.

 

[alien]

as a wrestling fan, i'd compare these derilects to the Hardy Boyz

the hardy boys were one of the most successful tag teams of all time

outside of the ring they are two of the biggest losers you would ever come across

i met jeff hardy at macarthur square when they had a tour of australia and performed in sydney that night (which i went to). jeff looked very stoned when i met him :laughing: mickie james was nice. i also met rey mysterio and chris benoit a year or 2 before that. they seemed very nice, but a year or so later benoit murders his family and then kills himself (although they think it might have been because he got brain damaged from all the hits to the head that he got during wrestling). he did used to fall headfirst off the top of the turnbuckles as one off his moves so its no wonder

 

[GNR4LIFE]

without trying to hijack this thread and turning it into an entirely different subject, all i was doing was making a comparison that showed the fact that regardless of how good they are on the field, off-field the Stewart brothers are a couple of grade A douchebags

 

[chookie]

Just get rid of the bum and be done with even send him to England and out of the way for good.

With a no return ticket.

 

[Goose]

Look at it this way …

1\. If it was Benji suspended for being drunk would we be up in arms and expecting an apology ? YES
2\. If it was you who had your reputation tarnished and dragged through the mud, would you still be angry about it ? YES
3\. If you were the only player in recent times the NRL banned when others have done similar thing, would you be angry still ? YES

End of the day, Brett has every right to still feel anger towards what is seen by some as unjust. I don't like Manly, but I think an apology was well and truly deserved months ago ...

For starters Gallop did not tarnish Stewarts' reputation, he did not make the accusations.

The suspension that he received was moderate. 4 weeks is not a big suspension.

Although his actions that night could not be proved to be beyond a reasonable doubt to be illegal, does not mean that his actions were not poor enough to be found to have been not in line with the image of an NRL player and bought the game into disrepute.

Stewart has directed his anger for the whole incident at Gallop. His anger is misplaced he should be angry at the girl, or the police for prosecuting him if there was nothing to it

 

[cunno]

You'd think after he only got a week for his kamikaze charge on Blair that he'd call it even. What a bitter little man he must be - you win a premiership and that's the first thing on your mind?

Yoss I know that I am making assumptions about this but no doubt Hasler probably created a siege mentality before the GF Everyone against Manly The other fans ,the NRL itself etc and Stewart has decided to take it one step further no doubt .

Not just Hasler mate, the whole club has traded off this "us versus the world" craptrap all your. But you would think that once you'd won and were getting your winner's medal you'd forget about that and just enjoy the moment. The phrase "time and place" comes to mind…

Ironically whilst the 'siege mentality' may have served a purpose in the short term, looks like it could begin to implode with keen personnel leaving for other clubs. Onnly a siege mentality when it suits!!

 

[Fraze23]

Did he ask the police and the magistrate for an apology when he was found not guilty?
It was never David Gallops job to determine guilt, it was his job to determine whether the game had been bought into disrepute and thats what had happened. It was never about Stewart being innocent or guilty.

 

[Flippedy]

I've read through this whole thread and I haven't seen anything about what Stewart actually said to Gallop on the day. Have I missed something or are we just condemning this guy's actions for no reason?

 

[citizen_cub]

I've read through this whole thread and I haven't seen anything about what Stewart actually said to Gallop on the day. Have I missed something or are we just condemning this guy's actions for no reason?

Well, I would have thought if the allegations were wrong and Stewart hadn't asked for an apology, either he or David Gallop would have come out and dismissed the allegations as untrue. This hasn't happened, so the vast majority of us are assuming that the allegations are true and Stewart did ask for an unjustified apology.

Flip, please don't tell me your one of these Stewart 'apologists' are you?

 

[Flippedy]

I've read through this whole thread and I haven't seen anything about what Stewart actually said to Gallop on the day. Have I missed something or are we just condemning this guy's actions for no reason?

Well, I would have thought if the allegations were wrong and Stewart hadn't asked for an apology, either he or David Gallop would have come out and dismissed the allegations as untrue. This hasn't happened, so the vast majority of us are assuming that the allegations are true and Stewart did ask for an unjustified apology.

**Flip, please don't tell me your one of these Stewart 'apologists' are you?**

No, not at all Cub, but I don't believe in condemning someone, based purely upon what everyone just thinks he said. When I hopped on the thread I expected to see an article or something valid about the exchange between Gallop and Stewart and what was actually said, that's all. Instead it just seems like everyone is assuming what was said and making a judgment from that assumption. You make a good point about Stewart and Gallop not coming out and dismissing the allegations if they weren't true, but has there actually been any public allegations made in the media, other than on this forum? I haven't seen any, but then again, I don't read the papers much.

 

[citizen_cub]

Sky News and Fox Sports News covered the issue in detail early last week. I was on school holidays last week, so I just had a quick look at both bulletins and they both seemed to be claiming B.Stewart asked for an 'apology', which seems feasible, the conversation looked as though it went a bit beyond Stewart saying the saga was 'over'.

Either way, the guy's a grub who needs a serious attitude change. G.Stewart shouldn't escape criticism in his role in all of this as well, anybody remember his sarcastic comments concerning Gallop coming to watch the Manly-Melbourne game at Brookie?

 

[Muffstar]

The Stewarts are a blight on the game - if there are 2 clowns who think they are bigger than the game its these idiots.

 

[happy_tiger]

You'd think after he only got a week for his kamikaze charge on Blair that he'd call it even. What a bitter little man he must be - you win a premiership and that's the first thing on your mind?

Yoss I know that I am making assumptions about this but no doubt Hasler probably created a siege mentality before the GF Everyone against Manly The other fans ,the NRL itself etc and Stewart has decided to take it one step further no doubt .

Not just Hasler mate, the whole club has traded off this "us versus the world" craptrap all your. But you would think that once you'd won and were getting your winner's medal you'd forget about that and just enjoy the moment. The phrase "time and place" comes to mind…

Ironically whilst the 'siege mentality' may have served a purpose in the short term, looks like it could begin to implode with keen personnel leaving for other clubs. Onnly a siege mentality when it suits!!

Cunno Siege mentality can only work short term
Becasuse then when things go pear shaped they lose it mentally because they think the world is against them and they can't turn it around

Broncos have used it successfully from time to time and Qld just thrives on it but it is only for 3 games a year

 

[Yossarian]

Obviously Des is now (or will soon be) one of them! Now he can spend 2012 explaining how everything is a conspiracy against Manly and that he was tricked into signing a massive deal with the Dogs…