The curious case of the Parramatta Eels

Tigerpete

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Where do Parramatta go from here? A season that was expected to be at least be better than last years awful season has followed up with a trainwreck! The problems appear monumental and the club is fair dinkum rudderless. To me the first thing the club should do is reign in Ricky Stuart. He's made a tough position look catastrophic. Yes, he's been bold and brave by giving the club a shake up but i still feel he's not handled the situation as best as possible.

For example, look in comparison with our own Mick Potter. 6 weeks into the season and we and Parra were alike. The difference in hindsight was the handling of the situation by the coaches. Potter didn't panic, he kept faith and was firm but fair with his young charges. He encouraged them. As time went on they improved. The encouragement whilst expecting higher standards was critical. Stuart though got tough. He preached patience early on but that was all talk. Several weeks later 12-14 players were told they could leave as they were surplus. Stuart at least in public has rarely encouraged his younger players, he's been intense and critical. As the season has worn on our players got better, Parra's have stagnated at the same level. I blame Stuart.

To me Ricky Stuart is the problem. This is a coach who's only ever succeeded with a talented roster at his disposal. He's shown zero capability to develop players, not even those is his very own half back position. That's a bad rap to have. I admire Ricky's passion and some of his motivational tools but he's extremely overrated as a coach. If he's there in 2015 i'll be stunned.

So what do Parra do?? Ricky needs to change his approach. Go back to what he started preaching. Patience for starters would help. He needs to encourage the players. whilst being firm like Potter. That would solve a lot of his issues. Remember with young players, their inexperience causes them to more or less play in their shell. They don't have the confidence to back themselves. If Stuart did this i don't doubt they would improve and from their they can build something.
 
I can only see alot of bottom 4's in parra's future. I think Stuart is the man for the job, he's just got park footballers to choose from. There is a bit if light with hoppa coming, if he can recapture his 11(?) form who knows. One player won't make a team competitive but loco, hayne, hopa with sandow finding form could give them some hope.

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@tigerbalm said:
I can only see alot of bottom 4's in parra's future. I think Stuart is the man for the job, he's just got park footballers to choose from. There is a bit if light with hoppa coming, if he can recapture his 11(?) form who knows. One player won't make a team competitive but loco, hayne, hopa with sandow finding form could give them some hope.

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I think Sandow is in form he's just so bad :roll
 
IMO Parramatta bought this upon themselves through a long string of poor off field decisions. After parting ways with Fitzgerald, the new board sacked Anderson out of spite having only lead the club to the GF the previous year. That started their mass spiral of hiring and firing coaches.

It's hard to see the light at the end of the tunnel for the Eels as it doesn't look as though they can recruit their way out this mess without paying significant overs for average footballers.

I also don't rate Ricky Stuart as a coach I don't believe he has ever achieved anything as a coach. The Roosters side he had in the early 00's was filled with established internationals and already built for him. His 45% win rate at the Sharks speaks for itself. I can't see him building a side by developing young players and fringe first graders along with some of the established players they have.
 
Ricky Stuart wanted the Tigers desperately so there is a GOD! …the first person the Parra board has to dump is the man in question Ricky Stuart. I have many Parra supporters as friends and they are not happy.
Things will not get any better until the coach has gone.
 
@Snake said:
Ricky Stuart wanted the Tigers desperately so there is a GOD! …the first person the Parra board has to dump is the man in question Ricky Stuart. I have many Parra supporters as friends and they are not happy.
Things will not get any better until the coach has gone.

Imagine he cut Fulton(Matua) and all our young guns haha - if he came.

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There is ZERO evidence to support the case for Ricky Stuart to be viewed as anything other than an egocentric, delusional, boofhead. Who has he made a better player in his entire career as a coach? "I admire his passion" some say on here? What?? It's not passion for his players or their wellbeing, instead it's a deluded rant that OTHERS are letting his methods down. It is palpably clear that the Parra players have NO CONFIDENCE in his capacity to improve the form of the team. When will Parra see that this guy is a complete dud? A blame-shifting, finger pointing narcissist who talks the talk but instead of walking the walk, he goes looking for a taxi (i.e. a nonsensical excuse for his limitations)!
 
Tim Sheens is the man for the job at Parramatta imo. He's a club builder, a patient, gentle but serious coach. Give him three years there and the place would turn around, just make sure to move him on once the job is done lol.

With coaches like Rick Stone and Steve Folkes on the market at the time I have no idea how Ricky Stuart got a job. He's a dead set nuffy coach with no patience whatsoever. I am confident that I could do a better job myself, and I've never coached an under 10s soccer team. Hire a bunch of specialist coaches and recruiters, set them KPIs, pick the best side. Job done.
 
They are a mess. From what i can tell they don't have any juniors coming through that look like they will take the club forward. Dare i saw they could become what Souths were from the early 90's till only 2 or 3 yrs ago
 
Yeah that's why they need a coach with a reputation and ties to players that will help them poach. Sheens is the man for the job.
 
Eh, I'd give him 2 more years. If they don't make the 8 after then…..well he's a dud then.

I mean, you guys give potter a break even when we were stone cold last. Let ricky clear out the dead wood(which he has done) and pick his own team first.
 
@MacDougall said:
Tim Sheens is the man for the job at Parramatta imo. He's a club builder, a patient, gentle but serious coach. Give him three years there and the place would turn around, just make sure to move him on once the job is done lol.

With coaches like Rick Stone and Steve Folkes on the market at the time I have no idea how Ricky Stuart got a job. He's a dead set nuffy coach with no patience whatsoever. I am confident that I could do a better job myself, and I've never coached an under 10s soccer team. Hire a bunch of specialist coaches and recruiters, set them KPIs, pick the best side. Job done.

Bang! Spot on. Sheensie is the only man for that job. I can't believe he didn't cop a serious mention for the initial job.
 
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@tigerbalm said:
I can only see alot of bottom 4's in parra's future. I think Stuart is the man for the job, he's just got park footballers to choose from. There is a bit if light with hoppa coming, if he can recapture his 11(?) form who knows. One player won't make a team competitive but loco, hayne, hopa with sandow finding form could give them some hope.

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I think Sandow is in form he's just so bad :roll

Good point.

He was one if those players( at souffs) that would always carve wests up. Then be a pudding the following week.

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Ricky Stuart has not the patience nor the temperament to be a coach. Mick Potter is a Jack Gibson when compared to Stuart.
 
But I always think with the eels . They have used about 6 coaches since smith . Is there a bigger problem surely all those coaches were the biggest issue . It's easy to blame th coach
 
stuart was never going to have success with the present rabble at the eels. at any time this season out of the 17 picked on any given weekend imo i reckon that at least 10 of them are just not f/g standard and never will be. there only strike is hayne and they leak, i mean flood tries in like no other side. this current parra team is the worst side to have been in the nrl over past ten years
 
Its a bit harsh to be blaming the coach. Parra has a dud roster; you cant make a silk purse from a sow's ear - or something like that. Let's see what happens next year when they get some pretty useful players on board.
 
Fair call Pymble, however my observation is that you would expect that team to perform better over the course of a season. Much like our younger guys have gotten better. They're not that bad a team. I just feel Ricky hasn't offered the suppport or shown the tempamant required to have a young side prosper and improve over a period of time.
 
i think stuart is just a crap coach…i mean, what sort of boss tells half the office they wont be there next year?!! thats REALLY good for morale....
 
They could have Bennett, Gibson and Bellamy rolled into one as their coach, they'd still struggle with their squad they've got. It is probably the worst squad since 2000\. I want to see how he goes next year when he has a few better players coming in and all these dregs are gone. I mean, they've cut 12 players and I can't see any NRL club going after any of them. Ricky has shown when he has the cattle he gets results, he is the last coach to legally make back-to-back-to-back grand finals with the same club.
 

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