Trent Barrett's body language

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Did anyone see him kick a water bottle like a spoiled child when Tom Turbo got taken into touch late in the game? Say what you want about JT and the job he's done, but he always conducts himself as a professional. Plus, that sort of behaviour is poor to model to your players. I remember Ian Chappell criticised Ricky Ponting once for pouting in from of his players. I'm glad JT is above that.
 
He was disappointed and reacted like most humans would in the same situation. I think you're being harsh. Personally I'd rather a coach who lives and bleeds for hid team rather than a robot.
 
Interesting how people think inability to control your emotions as a good thing. I will take JT's maturity anyway over the petulance of Barrett.

I don't need my coach to be passionate. I need them to be rational and thoughtful.
 
@southerntiger said:
Interesting how people think inability to control your emotions as a good thing. I will take JT's maturity anyway over the petulance of Barrett.

I don't need my coach to be passionate. I need them to be rational and thoughtful.

Neither are producing results
 
@Milky said:
@southerntiger said:
Interesting how people think inability to control your emotions as a good thing. I will take JT's maturity anyway over the petulance of Barrett.

I don't need my coach to be passionate. I need them to be rational and thoughtful.

Neither are producing results

Only one got to sign half a dozen rep players.
 
@southerntiger said:
Interesting how people think inability to control your emotions as a good thing. I will take JT's maturity anyway over the petulance of Barrett.

I don't need my coach to be passionate. I need them to be rational and thoughtful.

Interesting how people twist others words. That's not what I said. The context was everything. Craig Bellamy is probably the most animated coach in the comp but he seems pretty successful. I've even seen Wayne Bennett react to things. It was more noticeable because Barrett was on the sideline rather than the coaches box. A try and Manly were a chance of winning. He has a moment of frustration and now he can't control his emotions.

JT mature? Well yes punching your players in the guts and then getting nailed out during Mad Monday seems very mature.

Personally I don't care if a coach is a lunatic or emotionless - just as long as they win games.
 
@Yossarian said:
@southerntiger said:
Interesting how people think inability to control your emotions as a good thing. I will take JT's maturity anyway over the petulance of Barrett.

I don't need my coach to be passionate. I need them to be rational and thoughtful.

Interesting how people twist others words. That's not what I said. The context was everything. Craig Bellamy is probably the most animated coach in the comp but he seems pretty successful. I've even seen Wayne Bennett react to things. It was more noticeable because Barrett was on the sideline rather than the coaches box. A try and Manly were a chance of winning. He has a moment of frustration and now he can't control his emotions.

JT mature? Well yes punching your players in the guts and then getting nailed out during Mad Monday seems very mature.

Personally I don't care if a coach is a lunatic or emotionless - just as long as they win games.

so barrett "has a moment of frustration and now he can't control his emotions."

but this from craig bellamy is him as cool as a cucumber right?

https://gfycat.com/EnchantedGlossyFlamingo

i dont see how trent acting like a normal human and kicking a water bottle has any relevance to just about anything. im sure you could find vision of JT expressing his emotions too, its literally their livelihood and that too in public light. not a relatively light hearted interest for a sports club like us (and we probably get 10x more animated)
 
@Yossarian said:
JT mature? Well yes punching your players in the guts and then getting nailed out during Mad Monday seems very mature.

Now you're twisting things. That was almost 10 yrs ago and has zero to do with his time at this club.
 
@pHyR3 said:
@Yossarian said:
@southerntiger said:
Interesting how people think inability to control your emotions as a good thing. I will take JT's maturity anyway over the petulance of Barrett.

I don't need my coach to be passionate. I need them to be rational and thoughtful.

Interesting how people twist others words. That's not what I said. The context was everything. Craig Bellamy is probably the most animated coach in the comp but he seems pretty successful. I've even seen Wayne Bennett react to things. It was more noticeable because Barrett was on the sideline rather than the coaches box. A try and Manly were a chance of winning. He has a moment of frustration and now he can't control his emotions.

JT mature? Well yes punching your players in the guts and then getting nailed out during Mad Monday seems very mature.

Personally I don't care if a coach is a lunatic or emotionless - just as long as they win games.

so barrett "has a moment of frustration and now he can't control his emotions."

but this from craig bellamy is him as cool as a cucumber right?

https://gfycat.com/EnchantedGlossyFlamingo

i dont see how trent acting like a normal human and kicking a water bottle has any relevance to just about anything. im sure you could find vision of JT expressing his emotions too, its literally their livelihood and that too in public light. not a relatively light hearted interest for a sports club like us (and we probably get 10x more animated)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pu4LNx1GAe0
 
Must have been very frustrating for Barrett , losing player after player , then somehow getting back into the match only to be denied by a great tackle

Thinking they were down to 12 fit players , with Lewis Brown on the wing barely able to run , they showed heaps of heart
 
@happy tiger said:
Must have been very frustrating for Barrett , losing player after player , then somehow getting back into the match only to be denied by a great tackle

Thinking they were down to 12 fit players , with Lewis Brown on the wing barely able to run , they showed heaps of heart

Yep for sure! I would've done more than kick a water bottle if I was the coach lol. It was agonisingly close and a try there would've set the stage for an awesome finish, as Manly were definitely on top in the last 25 minutes. What a fantastic save by young Wighton, though - Canberra can thank him for that win.
 
@Yossarian said:
@southerntiger said:
Interesting how people think inability to control your emotions as a good thing. I will take JT's maturity anyway over the petulance of Barrett.

I don't need my coach to be passionate. I need them to be rational and thoughtful.

Interesting how people twist others words. That's not what I said. The context was everything. Craig Bellamy is probably the most animated coach in the comp but he seems pretty successful. I've even seen Wayne Bennett react to things. It was more noticeable because Barrett was on the sideline rather than the coaches box. A try and Manly were a chance of winning. He has a moment of frustration and now he can't control his emotions.

JT mature? Well yes punching your players in the guts and then getting nailed out during Mad Monday seems very mature.

Personally I don't care if a coach is a lunatic or emotionless - just as long as they win games.

I didn't twist your words. Thats what you prefer. An immature, petulant coach because for you this shows "passion". I called you out on this and now you get cranky.

I prefer results too. Given Taylor and Barrett both don't have results - and Barrett with a far better squad - I will take stable, mature Taylor over Barrett any day.

And I like how you raise something from 10 years ago when that only demonstrates my point. The immature Taylor is exactly what I don't want.
 
@southerntiger said:
@Yossarian said:
@southerntiger said:
Interesting how people think inability to control your emotions as a good thing. I will take JT's maturity anyway over the petulance of Barrett.

I don't need my coach to be passionate. I need them to be rational and thoughtful.

Interesting how people twist others words. That's not what I said. The context was everything. Craig Bellamy is probably the most animated coach in the comp but he seems pretty successful. I've even seen Wayne Bennett react to things. It was more noticeable because Barrett was on the sideline rather than the coaches box. A try and Manly were a chance of winning. He has a moment of frustration and now he can't control his emotions.

JT mature? Well yes punching your players in the guts and then getting nailed out during Mad Monday seems very mature.

Personally I don't care if a coach is a lunatic or emotionless - just as long as they win games.

I didn't twist your words. Thats what you prefer. An immature, petulant coach because for you this shows "passion". I called you out on this and now you get cranky.

I prefer results too. Given Taylor and Barrett both don't have results - and Barrett with a far better squad - I will take stable, mature Taylor over Barrett any day.

And I like how you raise something from 10 years ago when that only demonstrates my point. The immature Taylor is exactly what I don't want.

No you are twisting my words. Well you were now you're just being flat out dishonest. I said I'd prefer a coach whose emotions indicate he cares about the result. Immature and petulant is your slant not mine. I'm not cranky I just don't like being misrepresented.

Well unless you're looking at JT all game in the box how do you know how he acts during games? But sure it's worth being uncompetitive for you to feel good about our coach's demeanour.
 
No its not. As I stated, ignoring results what would I prefer - an immature, petulant coach like Barrett or Bellamy or a stable, mature coach like Taylor or Bennett. I would take the latter any day.

I would also prefer Bellamy - warts and all - over Taylor and Barrett any day.
 
@pHyR3 said:
@Yossarian said:
@southerntiger said:
Interesting how people think inability to control your emotions as a good thing. I will take JT's maturity anyway over the petulance of Barrett.

I don't need my coach to be passionate. I need them to be rational and thoughtful.

Interesting how people twist others words. That's not what I said. The context was everything. Craig Bellamy is probably the most animated coach in the comp but he seems pretty successful. I've even seen Wayne Bennett react to things. It was more noticeable because Barrett was on the sideline rather than the coaches box. A try and Manly were a chance of winning. He has a moment of frustration and now he can't control his emotions.

JT mature? Well yes punching your players in the guts and then getting nailed out during Mad Monday seems very mature.

Personally I don't care if a coach is a lunatic or emotionless - just as long as they win games.

so barrett "has a moment of frustration and now he can't control his emotions."

but this from craig bellamy is him as cool as a cucumber right?

https://gfycat.com/EnchantedGlossyFlamingo

i dont see how trent acting like a normal human and kicking a water bottle has any relevance to just about anything. im sure you could find vision of JT expressing his emotions too, its literally their livelihood and that too in public light. not a relatively light hearted interest for a sports club like us (and we probably get 10x more animated)

Yes because I was always go on about how Bellamy is cool as a cucumber. Bellamy is an embarrassment but he has also earned the right to be one because his results speak for themselves.
 
@southerntiger said:
No its not. As I stated, ignoring results what would I prefer - an immature, petulant coach like Barrett or Bellamy or a stable, mature coach like Taylor or Bennett. I would take the latter any day.

I would also prefer Bellamy - warts and all - over Taylor and Barrett any day.

Which is fine. It's a personal preference. My only comments are I'm not convinced that one act makes Barrett petulant but I confess I haven't seen him in action a lot and that to a point I value success over demeanour. I'd also suggest Bennett can be just as petulant just in a more understated way.
 
The role also depends upon the team. Taylor inherited an immature side that was prone to losing it when ever a decision went against them. The worst proponent of that was Farah. Taylor made it very clear that he wanted to develop a mature side that would not let ref decisions get them down. We haven't improved in many areas over the past 18 months but that is one area where we are better, far better.

Taylor couldn't have done that unless he himself showed restraint and maturity.

I admire that. '

Despite some of the ranting on here, the coach going off won't change the refs approach next week but it will mean that players won't take individual accountability.
 
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