WHY DONT THEY???

bp_tiger

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Why don't the NRL just have 2-4 team comp, because it seems like the only ones who can sign players without it seems any one having to have any accountability, are the dogs, roosters, souths, and Brisbane, the rest of the teams are not in the hunt. If we lose Teddy to the dogs or roosters that will do me, I think I may well walk away from football all together. Really had can the NRL stand by and watch 2-4 teams buy all the talent with the squads they have and say nothing.
 
Those clubs have a lot of contacts through sponsors and wealthy leagues clubs.
Their contracts are not huge but the third party payments are huge that's how they stay under the cap.

A friend of mine sat in on contract discussion with Nick Politis and a player which I will not mention, he basically told me the sign on fee was minimal but the third party deals were huge including a brand new car.

The other clubs cannot compete with this , it sucks we develop our juniors only to see them poached by the clubs mentioned above , and I agree we should be compensated.
 
@BodhiTiger said:
Think Grant M might be feeling the same way.

Think many a rugby league follower is feeling the same way. Might have something to do with the dwindling crowds and diminishing TV viewership.

IIRC about July/August last year David Smith was on one of the footy shows and acknowledged that the current Salary Cap system is no longer effective for todays game. He went onto say that several of his staff were looking, globally, into systems used by other team sports, and that the NRL would then implement a system that would create an even playing field. I haven't heard anything about this since.

Not yet sold on David Smith. I am beginning to wonder if getting rid of Gallop was such a good idea.

I love the game but ever since the commission was established it appears that it has gone backwards in some areas. The only time I see John Grant is when there is free coffee and biscuits on offer.
 
I just love the new Integrity Commission.

They use the cone of silence from Get Smart.

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@Oxygen said:
Those clubs have a lot of contacts through sponsors and wealthy leagues clubs.
Their contracts are not huge but the third party payments are huge that's how they stay under the cap.

A friend of mine sat in on contract discussion with Nick Politis and a player which I will not mention, he basically told me the sign on fee was minimal ****The other clubs cannot compete with this , it sucks we develop our juniors only to see them poached by the clubs mentioned above , but the third party deals were huge including a brand new car.

and I agree we should be compensated.

And that's where the NRL should be cracking down - Politis would have organised a car through one of his many contacts - which is not allowed under the 3rd party deals - there is supposed to be no connection between the supplier of the 3rd party deal and and the clubs hierarchy - the NRL really need to scrutinise all the 3rd party deals.
 
@cqtiger said:
I just love the new Integrity Commission.

They use the cone of silence from Get Smart.

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lol… i loved the cone of silence!

![](http://www.foodsafetynews.com/files/2012/12/cone-of-silence-300x199.jpg)

it amazes me that 3rd party contributions are so prevalent and there continues to be nothing done about them. if you have a club whose sponsors who are willing to shill for them then how can those who don't be expected to compete with them?

a particular recent instance where i suspect this very thing occurred was with the dragons being unable to match the offer the dogs gave josh morris. surely the dragons would have more cap space than canterbury?!

hopefully someone more knowledgeable about this can help out here, but i do seem to recall that the american college system used to be rife with this, but i think they have clamped down on it?

to me it seems quite simple: 3rd party involvements in payments/benefits contribute to the cap. isnt it just a simple matter of checking into players' tax details, etc? i mean, a player on a $350k contract owns a $1.5m house, brand new bmw, etc?

sure, hyperbole used to illustrate the point, but wouldn't it be an easy thing to govern?

ah, then i guess a line needs to be drawn in cases where a player (eg; billy slater for powerade) provides his image and services for advertising, etc...

not sure what can be done. i confused myself! 😕
 
http://www.nrl.com/nrlhq/referencecentre/salarycap/tabid/10434/default.aspx

The interesting thing in the document is what players can earn outside of payments from the club - any payments from sponsors must be against the marquee player allowance to a maximum of $600,000\. All other deals with private companies or persons must be sourced by the player and the club must have no involvement other than notify the NRL.

YEA RIGHT AS IF THATS HAPPENING!!!!!
 
@diedpretty said:
http://www.nrl.com/nrlhq/referencecentre/salarycap/tabid/10434/default.aspx

The interesting thing in the document is what players can earn outside of payments from the club - any payments from sponsors must be against the marquee player allowance to a maximum of $600,000\. All other deals with private companies or persons must be sourced by the player and the club must have no involvement other than notify the NRL.

YEA RIGHT AS IF THATS HAPPENING!!!!!

great post, diedpretty. exactly what i was saying in my ramblings about how to actually govern it…
 
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