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      the_third last edited by

      Farah slams new NRL obstruction rules By By Steve Jancetic AAP Thu 28th March, 11:04pm Share Print Decrease Font Increase Font RSS Wests Tigers skipper Robbie Farah claims defenders are using the new obstruction rule as a cop-out to prevent tries, adding that NRL teams would soon be forced to change the way the game was played. The Tigers were livid when denied what could have been a crucial try to Tim Moltzen during their 26-0 loss to Manly on Thursday night. The score was 14-0 when Moltzen was called back, with Chris Lawrence running into opposite centre Jamie Lyon inside from where the Tigers fullback went over. The obstruction rule has caused plenty of consternation over the opening few rounds of the season, with new referees boss Daniel Anderson having insisted on a zero tolerance policy to decoy runners coming in contact with defenders. “Players are using it as a cop-out,” Farah said when asked about the rule. "You’ve got players in the defensive line just getting hit and then straight away putting their hands up, using it as a cop-out. "They’re trying to make it a black and white rule but you can’t. “I thought we were making progress at the start of the year. We just seem to have gone backwards.” Asked if he would go down if a decoy runner came at him near the tryline, Farah said: “After seeing tonight, bloody oath.” The NSW Origin rake claimed the new interpretation would change the way the game was played. “We almost can’t run second-man plays anymore down near the line - it’s getting that ridiculous,” he said. "I just can’t understand how and why they’re ruling it this wrong. “The one last week in the Melbourne game, the Cooper Cronk try - that was just absurd. That’s a try every day of the week.” Lyon offered a sheepish smile when asked about his recollection of the incident. Asked if he outsmarted the Tigers, Lyon said: “I don’t know about that. I fell over - he ran into me.”

      Sorry cant get the link but its nrl.com.au

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        tig_prmz last edited by

        there is gonna be a loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooon debate on this piece of crap rule.

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          tigerbalm last edited by

          Adds to my frustration of events tonight.

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            Demonborger last edited by

            NRL rule set needs massive reworking and they need to shut down betting ties. Way too stop start, way too much influence from the refs. I normally hate it but watched some of the Richmond Carlton AFL game and i can see the appeal of a simple rule set.

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              tig_prmz last edited by

              they didnt point out the DCE no try that anasta milked

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                Oxygen last edited by

                A complete joke It’s gone from bad to worse , Manly certainly did their homework on the rule and exploited it.

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                  the_third last edited by

                  Either it needs to be said second man plays are penalised or there needs to be shades of grey. Would hate to see the big stick brought out for this. Lol

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                    Demonborger last edited by

                    THe reason why Anderson decided on it was because teams (such as the Dogs) would run a person into the defensive line and stop the defense from sliding, causing the defender on the outside of the dummy runner attacking player to be force into continuing to slide or watch the inside.

                    The way to fix it would be to tell all clubs that dummy runners have to run completely through the defensive line and then work on a test to determine who is at fault if this fails to happen, projected running path or something.

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                      happy_tiger last edited by

                      Funny how other sides can run second man plans without having issues Robbie

                      I don’t understand why the decoys just don’t hit the turf soon as they have played their part , the ball is usually past by the time they are getting close to the defender and no one can say they have interfered with a defender if they are laying flat on their bellies

                      The first obstruction when it was called when tedesco almost scored in the 1st half was definitely wrong

                      Lyon had followed Lawrence inside and just made a bad read

                      I think the best cure for this is simple , if the defender claims obstruction and it isn’t give him 10 in the bin Much like the faking it rule in football

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                        innsaneink last edited by

                        Its very difficult for there to be no contact at all when teams are attacking 10m out from the opposition tryline

                        This will kill attacking plays and see the kick to the corner be favoured……its all too hard for them so just attempt to wipe it out altogether

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                          happy_tiger last edited by

                          @innsaneink:

                          Its very difficult for there to be no contact at all when teams are attacking 10m out from the opposition tryline

                          This will kill attacking plays and see the kick to the corner be favoured……its all too hard for them so just attempt to wipe it out altogether

                          Yeah , but it is common sense Ink with many obstruction calls and why referees can’t see it is appalling really

                          90% of obstructions if they apply common sense are easy calls

                          Like the one I mentioned above , the defender is literally following the decoy inside and the ball goes outside after before Lyon makes contact with Rowdy No brainer really

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                            happy_tiger last edited by

                            The other thing I’ve always wondered about is this ??

                            Is there any way we could use a timing aspect to all of this ??

                            So for example , the player get past a level when an inside pass or kick is taken away because the decoy is offside

                            So then we time the amount of time it takes for the attacker to make contact with the defender

                            So when the defender makes a decision if he hasn’t made it by a certain timeframe he becomes null and void especially in frame by frame pictures he seems to be anchoring or bracing for impact

                            If the attacker hasn’t then altered his line it then could be deemed play on

                            With the technology at hand getting a frame by frame analysis of players body movements and reaction can’t be this hard

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                              Black_n_White last edited by

                              @happy tiger:

                              The other thing I’ve always wondered about is this ??

                              Is there any way we could use a timing aspect to all of this ??

                              So for example , the player get past a level when an inside pass or kick is taken away because the decoy is offside

                              So then we time the amount of time it takes for the attacker to make contact with the defender

                              So when the defender makes a decision if he hasn’t made it by a certain timeframe he becomes null and void especially in frame by frame pictures he seems to be anchoring or bracing for impact

                              If the attacker hasn’t then altered his line it then could be deemed play on

                              With the technology at hand getting a frame by frame analysis of players body movements and reaction can’t be this hard

                              Thats seems like way too much common sense for the NRL to implement.

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                                Swordy last edited by

                                Whenever you play grubs like Manly, this will happen. Jamie Lyon and Hodges at the Broncos is another that boils my hide. They deliberately play to exploit rules which is not what the game is about in my opinion.

                                If you are good enough, get up there and tackle your man. If you aren’t good enough, fake injury, fake getting run into, confront and intimidate the referee. That’s why I dont like it. I know all sides do it but some are bigger grubs than others, and Manly would have to be the top. Coaching to cheat is a grub act and cowardly.

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                                  TIGER last edited by

                                  How about this, if the player obstructed is clearly not going to have any effect on the guy why scores the try, they give the try.
                                  Only when a defender has a genuine chance of being in position to make a tackle on the eventual try scorer is denied that opportunity, the try should be disallowed.
                                  Too many tries being taken away because a guy who is nowhere near the eventual try scorer and had no chance of stopping the try gets ran into by a decoy runner. Its bloody stupid!

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