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      tig_prmz last edited by

      Where do you see the NRL in 5 years?

      For example, do you think the speed of the game will increase or more wrestling will take place?

      Do you think the NRL will reinstate the shoulder charge or will it go even softer?

      How about international? Will the game get bigger?

      After the retirement of smith billy jt etc- who will be the dominant player representatively and at club level?

      Would you still support the game and tigers if the game gets softer and slower?

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        tigermaniac last edited by

        If the refereeing standards stay the same, we can see crowds drop further.

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          Newtown last edited by

          @tigermaniac:

          If the refereeing standards stay the same, we can see crowds drop further.

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          The refereeing standards are probably as good as they have ever been. It is TV replays which are showing up flaws which have always existed with refereeing

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            wtigers last edited by

            @Newtown:

            @tigermaniac:

            If the refereeing standards stay the same, we can see crowds drop further.

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            The refereeing standards are probably as good as they have ever been. It is TV replays which are showing up flaws which have always existed with refereeing

            ^true. They need to give the game back to the refs and take it away from the TV cameras.

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            • innsaneink
              innsaneink last edited by

              TV pays for the game though.

              There seems to be a lot of disillusionment with the game, crowds are down, other codes seem to be prospering

              AFL rules seem very simple to this uninitiated observer, much like soccer, they dont seem to have the refs howlers we do - we keep stuffing around with the rules to suit the video ref (9 & FOX) ….why doesnt union have our dramas re refs, they do with some player behaviour…

              We see the same players interviewed all the time, it becomes tedious, the game is somewhat predictable…it needs help bigtime

              The new admin seem soft and pliable, still reactive rather than proactive…though thats probably a result of News’ agenda being jammed down everyones throat

              I dont see any expansion in 5 years - thankfully

              I dont see reserve grade being restored to its rightful place - last step before NRL - sadly

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                Demonborger last edited by

                I have no idea what will happen but judging from the track record the NRL is very reactive, particularly to what ever New ltd is crying about at the time.

                There has to be a thorough process to streamline the rules. As pointed out already the refs are no better or worse than usual but two things have occurred in the last 15 year period.

                1. More information about what happens thanks to better cameras, more cameras, more replays and greater coverage all round.
                2. The coaches always evolve the metagame, which is how the game within the rules is played. They look for areas in the rules to exploit and push everything to the limit. This makes the refs job harder as the rules never updated to keep the core of the game intact. This is why we see the wrestle bog down games and the ruck become an subjective mess amplifying referee impacts on the game itself.

                The NRL has to identify what makes the game interesting and entertaining to watch and reform it. The tackle and ruck need to be reformed in such a way as to remove the subjective influence of the refs whilst accentuating what makes the game rugby league. I’d guess that the fans want to see action in the initial collisions of the tackles rather than the slow smothering wrestling, and to see the game play with men on their feet and with the ball in motion rather than guys lying on the ball carrier on the ground.

                The AFL ruleset is perfect when it comes to limiting the ref influences and as an alternative product is a great threat to the NRL if the status quo regarding the impact of the refs on the game. I personally as a fan of all football codes am finding the AFL as a viable entertainment alternative whereas 5 years ago it was never even a thought.

                Also we live in a time where sport is big business and determination of results for ratings and match fixing for corporate financial gain is a real threat to the integrity of the game as well as the threats posed by traditional gambling match fixing. Streamlining the rules increases the transparency and would help to demonstrate to the fans that the comp is worth following.

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                  Gold_Coast_Tiges Banned last edited by

                  I agree that the rules should be made more straight forward and any change that gets away from ref’s “interpretations” would be better.
                  Three rule changes which would go a long way towards this is to
                  1…… Do away with the double movement rule and when an attacking player is tackled near the line , if he can reach out and ground the ball on or over the line than a try should be awarded. It takes out the ref having an opinion on whether his momentum has carried him over the line or not…(obviously he cannot move his body closer to the line) but if he can reach it then it shouldnt matter if momentum does carry him or not, as long as he gets the ball down on or over the line.
                  The change does not favour one team or another as it applies exactly at both ends and all the ref has to make sure of is that the player does not move the rest of his body once tackled.

                  2:Stop letting players stand, or be held for as long as they now are . this rubbish started with Harrigan, when the Bronco’s entered and he started letting players not only take twice long as they
                  previously did, but also let passes be thrown off the ground, way more than any referees ever did before(In the name of flowing Football). Any one who wishes to , only has to look at some old vision of the Early Broncos and count the number of passes thrown off the ground or excessively late (especially by Langer )
                  This habit of Harrigan of letting players stand longer and look around for an age ,eventually led to Gang tackles coming into the Game,and that developed(thanks to MelbournE )into the untidy mEss of Chicken wings ,Crushers and worst of all the Cannonball tackles into a players knees(mostly sideways , a direction that knees are not intended to bend) that we have to put up with every week,
                  Change the rule to what it was supposed to be. which was: When his forward progress is halted or the arm carrying the ball comes in contact with the ground ,Call HELD!!! Simple. Still flowing ,faster football , a LOT less injuries and gets rid of the scourge that Bellamy and the Storm have foisted on us as spectators
                  A by-product of this rule change would be that the massive forwards that we now see changed every 15 minutes or so would be tire quicker ,and just maybe there would be more room for Halfbacks andFive eighths to use skills in a game .

                  3…Penalties for stripping: If point 2 is used then the gang tackles will drop off, as players will be unable to get to tackles like they can now and still get back in the defence line in time ,so we will have less players in tackles.,less injuries , quicker play the balls, More flowing football, exactly what Harrigan was trying to do ,without all the stuffups that he started, more importance would then be placed on the ball carrier to have better ball security amd we will see the lotto that is now a stripping penalty go once and for all
                  Maybe not perfect , but simple changes that take away at least Some of the decisions now that never seem consistent
                  Especially the double movement one.

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                    cqtiger last edited by

                    Fine the coaches $100,000 instead of $10,000 for blaming everyone and everything after they lose.

                    Every sport has issues with officials but league coaches sook at any bloody thing. The longer they sook the more chance of another rule change.

                    Who has played a sport where everything goes your way? Not me.

                    I’ve been on this forum when somebody posts about poor decisions going against us but invariably there are others who truly believe that the officials got it right.

                    There will never be perfect referees, just as there will never be perfect players.

                    Our game will be so much better for it.

                    Will the coaches stop whinging in 5 years?
                    Bets anyone?

                    Nuff said

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                      Demonborger last edited by

                      @cqtiger:

                      Fine the coaches $100,000 instead of $10,000 for blaming everyone and everything after they lose.

                      Every sport has issues with officials but league coaches sook at any bloody thing. The longer they sook the more chance of another rule change.

                      Who has played a sport where everything goes your way? Not me.

                      I’ve been on this forum when somebody posts about poor decisions going against us but invariably there are others who truly believe that the officials got it right.

                      There will never be perfect referees, just as there will never be perfect players.

                      Our game will be so much better for it.

                      Will the coaches stop whinging in 5 years?
                      Bets anyone?

                      Nuff said

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                      NRL is too reactionary and so yea raising the fine amount seems like something they would do…

                      I get your sentiment here but I disagree with some of it too. Personally I think the NRL should allow criticism but it has to be logical, rational and articulate criticism with an intention of feedback to make the game better and the refereeing better. In short positive criticism should be encouraged. If they coach can’t support his criticisms with logic and evidence then go ahead and accuse him of being a whiner.


                      Silencing coaches is not a good look, it’s like silencing a whistleblower (no pun intended) from exposing poor business practices. Transparency and rational logic should be promoted.

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                        innsaneink last edited by

                        The soft shit that was Melbournes first try off a penalty for a knight player brushing slaters head is one major thing turning people away

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                          Blake93 last edited by

                          @innsaneink:

                          The soft shit that was Melbournes first try off a penalty for a knight player brushing slaters head is one major thing turning people away

                          Absolutely ridiculous penalty, they need to get rid of video replays in general play and reserve it for tries only

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                            Ed_Reschs last edited by

                            @innsaneink:

                            The soft shit that was Melbournes first try off a penalty for a knight brushing slaters head is one major thing turning people away

                            League has turned into a game for homo’s. what a disgraceful decision. The swans are on 504. Time to switch

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                              system last edited by

                              @Ed Reschs:

                              @innsaneink:

                              The soft shit that was Melbournes first try off a penalty for a knight brushing slaters head is one major thing turning people away

                              League has turned into a game for homo’s. what a disgraceful decision. The swans are on 504. Time to switch

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                              So you are saying that homosexual men can’t play Rugby League. Are you actually saying that the sexual choice of an individual some how reduces their playing ability? Are you a fucking moron.

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                                Blake93 last edited by

                                @Anonymous:

                                @Ed Reschs:

                                @innsaneink:

                                The soft shit that was Melbournes first try off a penalty for a knight brushing slaters head is one major thing turning people away

                                League has turned into a game for homo’s. what a disgraceful decision. The swans are on 504. Time to switch

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                                So you are saying that homosexual men can’t play Rugby League. Are you actually saying that the sexual choice of an individual some how reduces their playing ability? Are you a fucking moron.

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                                I believe he is, anonymous

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                                  system last edited by

                                  @Blake93:

                                  @Anonymous:

                                  @Ed Reschs:

                                  @":

                                  The soft shit that was Melbournes first try off a penalty for a knight brushing slaters head is one major thing turning people away

                                  League has turned into a game for homo’s. what a disgraceful decision. The swans are on 504. Time to switch

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                                  So you are saying that homosexual men can’t play Rugby League. Are you actually saying that the sexual choice of an individual some how reduces their playing ability? Are you a fucking moron.

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                                  I believe he is, anonymous

                                  Posted using RoarFEED 2013

                                  So what are you saying 93 !!!

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