Taylor and Roninson - "Back-loaded NRL contracts scary, risky"

Back-loaded NRL contracts scary, risky
Adrian Warren and Steve Zemek August 27, 2015, 3:57 pm

Wests Tigers coach Jason Taylor describes back-loaded NRL contracts as scary, Sydney Roosters counterpart Trent Robinson agrees they are risky. The strategy has come under renewed focus after Wests Tigers’ decision to urge captain Robbie Farah to seek another club from next season, despite having two years left on his contract when he is reportedly due to earn almost $1 million a year. Although Farah’s situation may not be entirely due to salary cap issues, it highlighted the concerns over “back-ending” contracts, whereby players earn much more in the last years of their deals.

“Back-ended contracts are a scary thing,” Taylor said on Thursday. "The processes that we’re putting in place are going to ensure we don’t have situations like this in the future. "We are making really smart decisions and making sure that going forward we don’t find ourselves in this position as a club.
Right now myself and (interim chief executive) Phil Moss, we are dealing with a salary cap that is really messy. “We are working really hard to clean it up.”

Taylor admitted the Tigers could still find themselves paying several hundred thousand dollars to Farah next year if he didn’t get the full amount of his contract at his new club and they had to make up the difference.

Sydney Roosters coach Robinson underlined the importance of managing back-loaded contracts as as part of an overall salary cap strategy and stressed some clubs had done it better than others.“Teams have managed them well and teams haven’t managed them well and they find their squads in different strengths or weaknesses, so it’s vital to any club,” Robinson said. "It can make the difference in competing for a competition or not."Robinson questioned whether it was necessary for clubs to lock themselves into long-term back-loaded deals when the NRL was constantly unearthing new talent. “You have to be careful with huge increases at the back end of deals, it can get you in trouble,” Robinson said. " I think there’s a broader thing when it comes to that. The beauty of our game is we produce so many good players. "We’re looking at Sonny Bill (Williams) who we (the Roosters) had, go back to rugby union. "We’ve had Sam (Burgess) go over to England and playing in their (rugby union) squad. "We’ve got Jarryd Hayne in the NFL. We’ve got Izzy (Israel Folau) playing for Australia (in rugby union). "We produce players year after year.

"Guys were questioning whether (the Roosters) Roger Tuivasa-Sheck could play fullback at the start of the year and now he’s one of the best in the competition and we just keep producing players.
“So long, long deals with huge jumps are risky for clubs. They are important sometimes to sign a player, but you just have to be careful.”



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Nice one Roobo…notice you had 2.4mil worth of talent sitting on the sideline last night…good job

And still won by a mile against a side desperate to stay in the finals race…

Robinson & Taylor

… Batman & Robin.

I’m amazed that player agents have agreed to such long dated, heavily back-loaded contracts in the past.

There is a large opportunity cost to the players in these financial arrangements.

There is a suggestion that the last two years of Robbie’s contract is a roll forward of money that was owed to him from years ago, but that the club couldn’t fit it under the cap at the time. Even though Robbie will be paid what is owed to him, there would be a large opportunity cost to him of forgoing these sums of money for so many years.

@fibrodreaming:

I’m amazed that player agents have agreed to such long dated, heavily back-loaded contracts in the past.

There is a large opportunity cost to the players in these financial arrangements.

There is a suggestion that the last two years of Robbie’s contract is a roll forward of money that was owed to him from years ago, but that the club couldn’t fit it under the cap at the time. Even though Robbie will be paid what is owed to him, there would be a large opportunity cost to him of forgoing these sums of money for so many years.

My view is that it is the player managers who encourage this practice. Most player managers have a “stable” of players to look after and I think a few will be at the same club.

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Interesting point cq - that hadn’t occurred to me. In other words, it’s in the financial interests of the player managers rather than the players. Makes sense.

Why the hell is anyone from the Roosters weighing in on anything to do with the salary cap!? Nearly fell off my chair laughing when I opened this thread.

It’s risky in clubs which have high turnover of management and no clear direction. New changes of management means different directions.
I think we’ve overpaid a couple of purchases and second tier type players. We haven’t had a lot of luck but we haven’t deserved it either.

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@fibrodreaming:

I’m amazed that player agents have agreed to such long dated, heavily back-loaded contracts in the past.

There is a large opportunity cost to the players in these financial arrangements.

There is a suggestion that the last two years of Robbie’s contract is a roll forward of money that was owed to him from years ago, but that the club couldn’t fit it under the cap at the time. Even though Robbie will be paid what is owed to him, there would be a large opportunity cost to him of forgoing these sums of money for so many years.

They don’t care because the player will be paid no matter what happens.

reckon robinson is the best coach in the nrl- speaks so well.

he says JT will be a good coach- that gives me high hopes for JT tbh

Terry Lamb would coach the current Roosters to where they are the Roster is ridiculous.
If they don’t win this year one premiership from the last few years of dominance is an utter failure.

@tig_prmz:

reckon robinson is the best coach in the nrl- speaks so well.

he says JT will be a good coach- that gives me high hopes for JT tbh

Surely Robinson doesn’t tell lies about his former assistant.

@Newtown:

@tig_prmz:

reckon robinson is the best coach in the nrl- speaks so well.

he says JT will be a good coach- that gives me high hopes for JT tbh

Surely Robinson doesn’t tell lies about his former assistant.

i’ve heard a couple of interviews of robbo. he isn’t asked about JT, he is asked about farah and robinson quickly points out that he has full faith in JT. it comes across as if he liked JT and that’s all im basing it on really.

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