High-scoring wins didn't help us: Taylor



  • High-scoring wins didn’t help us: Taylor

    Chris Kennedy Tue 29 Mar, 2016, 7:13am
    By Chris Kennedy ‌, National Correspondent, NRL.com

    Wests Tigers coach Jason Taylor says a pair of high-scoring wins to start his club’s season may have been entertaining to watch but aren’t the type of performance that will help his side into the finals.

    In praising his team’s defensive efforts in keeping a now co-ladder-leading Parramatta to just one try in Wests Tigers’ 8-0 Easter Monday loss, Taylor was far more effusive of the Tgers’ efforts without the ball despite a lack of cohesion in attack.

    The Tigers raced out to a 28-4 lead against the Warriors in Round 1, which became 28-26 before a late try sealed it. In Round 2 a 16-2 lead against Manly evaporated to 16-all before a late surged saw them run out 36-22 victors.

    After back-to-back losses, the coach hinted those wins may have papered over a few defensive cracks and given the team a false sense of security and led to a lack of cohesion in attack with the team just expecting things to happen.

    “It has been a couple of games now that we’ve struggled to control it and the players know what it is. We sat down after the game and they told me what the problem was, I didn’t need to tell them, they knew it,” Taylor said after the Eels loss. "But because we had some really great execution in those first couple of rounds it probably has had an impact. I know it’s great to watch but I didn’t love the fact we won those first couple of games with really high scores for and really high scores against.

    "We’ve got to get our defence. If we want to play in the semi-finals you’ve got to improve the defence. “We finished 11th in defence last year which was a big jump up from 16th the year before and we want to go again, we need to get higher.”

    Taylor pointed out there were teams in the top eight in 2015 in terms of points scored that missed the finals. The Raiders actually scored the second-most points of any side but missed the top eight.
    “We finished sixth in attack last year but we didn’t play in the semi-finals. A lot of teams that finished in the top eight in attack who didn’t play in the semi-finals. Why? Because they didn’t defend well enough. We need to improve that. The last two weeks were really positive in that regard,” Taylor said.

    The implication may be that the supposed attacking licence his side enjoyed in the opening fortnight may be getting reeled in. Taylor said the team was excited by its defensive achievements and just needed to tighten up its execution with ball in hand and cut down on the error rate. “It was really positive from us the way we defended [Monday] and last week as well,” he said. "There are really great signs for us, it’s early in the season and what we’re looking at as coaches from our teams defensively in the last two games has been really good.

    "The scoreboard blew out a bit last week [against the Titans] with a couple of extra tries than we would have liked but they were on the back of a bit of luck that went the Gold Coast’s way. “We’re disappointed that we’ve lost that game but that is a really massive positive for us the way we’ve defended.”



  • Yes JT i can see how only letting in 8pts a game can get you into the semis but i hope you realise that you have to score at least 9 for that to work



  • I agree - that angered me a little in the press conference when he started talking about that. Must irritate the young guys when they don’t get the credit they deserve when they’ve had a great day in attack.



  • Didn’t help? For each of the Tigers’ first two games, they were awarded two competition points. This helps. For the subsequent two games the Tigers received no competition points. This does not help. At the end of August teams are ranked by the number of competition points. This is why teams try to win football games. The other stats are just a stats



  • We lost the last few games because our playmakers didn’t play with control.


  • Banned

    I can’t work Taylor out



  • Dunno why you’re all whining… JT is spot on… And Hammertime…
    "we had some great execution in those first couple of rounds. " Jason Taylor

    But really… Some of you blokes must think what’s said in the media is what’s said in the sheds.


  • ForumSupporter

    !00% correct…When we control the football it shows…the forwards did their job yesterday …defensively we hit and stuck…best defence I have seen from the Wests Tigers in 3 years…

    Execution in attack however…sucked dead dogs dongers…



  • @innsaneink:

    Dunno why you’re all whining… JT is spot on… And Hammertime…
    "we had some great execution in those first couple of rounds. " Jason Taylor

    But really… Some of you blokes must think what’s said in the media is what’s said in the sheds.

    Ink your crazy , insane even

    Defence isn’t important , ask 85% on the Forum , they’ll tell you

    As long as we play like it’s 2005 all over again , that’s all that matters



  • Good and bad with this. He seems a bit desperate to point out the positives, almost as if he’s selling himself.

    Defence was great yesterday, and he’s right that we need to fix that first and foremost if we want to make the 8.

    That said:

    • bringing up last week as another example of good defence is ridiculous - we conceded 30 points to the Titans FFS
    • as good as the defence was yesterday, the attack was hugely concerning. From a fan who was at the game, that’s what I’m taking out of it rather than looking at the good defensive effort, and it grates a little that the coach isn’t acknowledging as much. Overly emotive I know, but I don’t think I was the only one.


  • @Geo.:

    !00% correct…When we control the football it shows…the forwards did their job yesterday …defensively we hit and stuck…best defence I have seen from the Wests Tigers in 3 years…

    Execution in attack however…sucked dead dogs dongers…

    Defence was brilliant made me real proud , showed commitment .

    We played literally 70 minutes with 2 Reserves that is it 😒 ( Grant failing concussion test and Cherrington not used till the last 10 minutes ) .
    We have players that a borderline 1st Graders IMO……in Lovett and Buchanan you can even throw Sirronen to that mix as he never plays.

    Also Josh Aloiai has only played 3 1st Grade games and has limited experience add that Lawrence didn’t play also .

    The dumb decision for mine was starting Cherrington and Farah on the bench together :crazy



  • @ricksen:

    Good and bad with this. He seems a bit desperate to point out the positives, almost as if he’s selling himself.

    Defence was great yesterday, and he’s right that we need to fix that first and foremost if we want to make the 8.

    That said:

    • bringing up last week as another example of good defence is ridiculous - we conceded 30 points to the Titans FFS
    • as good as the defence was yesterday, the attack was hugely concerning. From a fan who was at the game, that’s what I’m taking out of it rather than looking at the good defensive effort, and it grates a little that the coach isn’t acknowledging as much. Overly emotive I know, but I don’t think I was the only one.

    But the first 40 minutes v the Titans was good Ricksen , almost as good as the entre game v Parra



  • It was good to see the defensive effort and I can see how the coach would be happy with that.

    Still plenty of the obvious to work on though.

    Taylor is just wanting to look at the positives for his answers. Was the same last year and I couldn’t care about that. It’s his selections that have me more concerned!



  • The fact is its about winning games.

    Tigers were 2-0

    Now they are 2-2

    I dont care if we win 1-0 or 40-34.

    We need wins.

    And Taylor needs wins to stay in a job.



  • @Eddie:

    The fact is its about winning games.

    Tigers were 2-0

    Now they are 2-2

    I dont care if we win 1-0 or 40-34.

    We need wins.

    And Taylor needs wins to stay in a job.

    And as usual Eddie wants it both ways

    Taylor has handed the attack back to the team as everyone called for and guess what still happens , he points the finger at Taylor still

    I’m just throwing it out there , but I’m guessing Eddie and Steve’s surnames are Potter


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