Phil Gould Article on Tigers



  • The attacking abilities of the individual Wests Tigers players proved to be the difference between the two teams in their comfortable 25-12 victory over the St George-Illawarra Dragons.

    The young Tigers trio of Luke Brooks, Mitchell Moses and James Tedesco just had too much flair and skill for their opponents. They created the tries that made the difference in the contest. These kids are so confident in their own ability and now look so comfortable in NRL football that I suspect they will produce many wins for this club in years to come.


    Tigers breeze past Dragons
    The Wests Tigers have put aside a week of off-field drama to easily beat the Dragons, 25-12.
    The Dragons, by comparison, played without confidence and look very uncomfortable when trying to put together attacking sequences.

    Possession statistics will show that both teams had equal opportunity to win the game. Both teams completed 29 sets of six, from the 35 opportunities they had with the ball. The tackle counts ended up almost identical with the Dragons completing 285 tackles to the West Tigers 288.

    If anything, the Dragons had more opportunities to play attacking football of the two teams. Sixty per cent of the game was played in the Tigers’ half of the field. The Dragons had 40 tackles with the ball inside the Tigers’ 20m zone. The Tigers only had 14 play-the-balls inside the Dragons’ 20 zone.

    By full-time, though, the Tigers had crafted four tries. That was a pretty fair effort given their limited opportunities at the Dragons’ end of the football field. The Dragons only managed to cross the line twice despite being gifted plenty of possession within striking distance of the Tigers’ goal line.

    One should praise the Tigers’ defensive effort, particularly at their own end of the field, to keep the Dragons to such a meagre total. They worked hard for each other and kept turning up in numbers on the big plays to repel their opposition. The truth of the matter is that the Tigers were aided by the fact the Dragons were throwing very little at them by the way of attack.

    The inability of the Dragons to manufacture tries has been a talking point for sometime now. It was there for all to see again yesterday. In my old-fashioned way, I have always believed there are five basic elements that must come together to produce constructive and consistent attacking football.

    There is a lot more to building great attacking play than the simplicity of what I’m about to describe right here; but without these basics in place, I don’t believe any team can be consistently effective in attack. Firstly, you need to be able to go forward. The Dragons at times actually do this pretty well. They have no trouble advancing the ball upfield.

    Secondly, you need to have direction. You need to have an idea of where the set of six is headed and where you want to aim your attacking plays. Again, there is not a great deal of difference between the Dragons and other teams in the premiership in this regard. Whether or not it is the right style of football for the players they have available is open to discussion. But they work to similar positions on the field as any of the other teams in this competition.

    Thirdly, you need delivery. How are you going to deliver the ball to your playmakers so they are in good position to run their plays? This is where things start to break down a little bit for the Dragons.

    They have a limited number of players with creative skills in their team. This makes it difficult to disguise the plays they are about to execute. The ball also seems to get to them very slowly and far too deep to put any real pressure on the opposition defensive line.

    There is also very limited variety now the ball is delivered to their creative players. Every time Benji Marshall or Gareth Widdop caught the ball yesterday, the Tigers rushed them with quick moving defence, or defenders had quickly shuffled into position to close down the available opportunities. It was all very predictable and tends to repeat itself over and over during the 80 minutes of a match.

    Next, you need to know how to execute some plays. This involves how and where the ball-player runs with the ball in hand, teasing the defensive line, combining with the running patterns of the potential ball receivers. This is all about, sleight of hand, looking for a reaction from the defensive players and punishing any mistakes or indecision by putting the ball in front of men running hard into holes.

    This is pretty much where it all falls apart for the Dragons. It takes too long to describe in words exactly what I’m talking about. Suffice to say, the Dragons need a lot of work on this part of their game.

    Finally, you need players with great football instincts. More often than not, tries in rugby league are not scored by great plays; they are scored by great players. Great players can make the most basic of attacking structures look great. Hell, great players can make coaches look great.

    The Dragons play very little football on instinct.

    The Tigers, on the other hand, have instinct to burn. They run similar patterns and similar plays to the Dragons. By comparison, they deliver the ball to their playmakers faster, they execute their running patterns better and they know what reactions they want from the opposition defensive line.

    The big difference is that they have players who also play on instinct. They react quickly to what’s presented before them. They feed off each other’s skills and they trust each other’s abilities without hesitation. That’s where the Tigers excelled in this match. It was the difference between the two teams.

    If the Tigers had as much possession at the Dragons’ end of the field as the Dragons enjoyed at theirs, I suspect they would have scored another three or four tries, so potent is their attacking game.

    Quite simply, the Tigers kids just do it better



  • There you go a pretty good endorsement of our Team from a very good Judge….

    So, can JT coach now…?



  • We have some really good young players.

    Our roster is no where near as poor as some people try and make out.

    We have under achieved the past couple of years,

    Like JT said himself the position on the ladder is too low for a team of our talent.


  • Banned

    @Eddie:

    We have some really good young players.

    Our roster is no where near as poor as some people try and make out.

    We have under achieved the past couple of years,

    Like JT said himself the position on the ladder is too low for a team of our talent.

    We have a really good squad. The weakness in our squad is our halves in that they can be inconsistent. I think a fair few teams would love to have our halves.


  • Banned

    Phil goulds article on the Tigers vs dragons game isn’t an endorsement of coach taylor, the Tigers have been playing this style since Tim sheens was there and they have for most years been able to have a playing group with freakish talent. Pat Richard’s, sattler, prince, marshal, farah, tuiaki, my favourite hodgson, and then the team is blessed with the solid workers like galea, gibbs, heighington, payton and more…… today we have a new bunch nofa, simona, sue, and i can honestly say the whole roster is a class act. The fact we have 17 hookers is because we have 1 joker not their fault at all. One hooker is costing the club a million dollars a year but hey its not like he is stealing its fair dough that he’s owed and to be frank he is the current nsw hooker as well. Before there is a civil war within this club and the playing group is divided like the fans already are i think it’s best to bump taylor into never coach again land or just pay Robbie what’s rightfully his. Unless one of these guys is hit by a bus something will give and it won’t be pretty.


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    Gus loves us…



  • @Eddie:

    We have some really good young players.

    Our roster is no where near as poor as some people try and make out.

    We have under achieved the past couple of years,

    Like JT said himself the position on the ladder is too low for a team of our talent.

    Last couple of years? Its been 5 years since we made the finals and we were rated as favourites in 2012. Yeh but lets just blame Taylor for everything. You are starting to sound as petty and narrow-minded as Stevetiger.



  • @Longhorn:

    Phil goulds article on the Tigers vs dragons game isn’t an endorsement of coach taylor, the Tigers have been playing this style since Tim sheens was there and they have for most years been able to have a playing group with freakish talent. Pat Richard’s, sattler, prince, marshal, farah, tuiaki, my favourite hodgson, and then the team is blessed with the solid workers like galea, gibbs, heighington, payton and more…… today we have a new bunch nofa, simona, sue, and i can honestly say the whole roster is a class act. The fact we have 17 hookers is because we have 1 joker not their fault at all. One hooker is costing the club a million dollars a year but hey its not like he is stealing its fair dough that he’s owed and to be frank he is the current nsw hooker as well. Before there is a civil war within this club and the playing group is divided like the fans already are i think it’s best to bump taylor into never coach again land or just pay Robbie what’s rightfully his. Unless one of these guys is hit by a bus something will give and it won’t be pretty.

    I think most people agree that there is not room for both of them in Tigertown and maybe it is better if we start a fresh without both of them. If a choice had to be made, I would keep the coach. Farah is at the very end of a great career, so we have to look to the future and if you take the Farah drama out of things Taylor seems to finally have the team on the up



  • our squad is good, but we are still missing one more 2nd rower to bolster our pack.

    a good attacker and defender. needs to provide us with momentum and do some dirty metres at times to get out sets rolling, as well as cover our right side defense better so moses/naiqama can trust their inside better.

    im thinking a wade graham, tyson frizell tier player. which we can easily afford without farah’s 950k



  • @Longhorn:

    Phil goulds article on the Tigers vs dragons game isn’t an endorsement of coach taylor, the Tigers have been playing this style since Tim sheens was there and they have for most years been able to have a playing group with freakish talent. Pat Richard’s, sattler, prince, marshal, farah, tuiaki, my favourite hodgson, and then the team is blessed with the solid workers like galea, gibbs, heighington, payton and more…… today we have a new bunch nofa, simona, sue, and i can honestly say the whole roster is a class act. The fact we have 17 hookers is because we have 1 joker not their fault at all. One hooker is costing the club a million dollars a year but hey its not like he is stealing its fair dough that he’s owed and to be frank he is the current nsw hooker as well. Before there is a civil war within this club and the playing group is divided like the fans already are i think it’s best to bump taylor into never coach again land or just pay Robbie what’s rightfully his. Unless one of these guys is hit by a bus something will give and it won’t be pretty.

    What makes you think it may turn until a civil war? all these blokes would have had mstes dumped before. It’s just part off being a footballer.


  • Banned

    @southerntiger:

    @Eddie:

    We have some really good young players.

    Our roster is no where near as poor as some people try and make out.

    We have under achieved the past couple of years,

    Like JT said himself the position on the ladder is too low for a team of our talent.

    Last couple of years? Its been 5 years since we made the finals and we were rated as favourites in 2012. Yeh but lets just blame Taylor for everything. You are starting to sound as petty and narrow-minded as Stevetiger.

    Geez dude. Did I run over your dog or something.

    Did you know that Taylor and this is true actually takes money off homeless kids. What sort of a person does that ?



  • @stevetiger:

    @southerntiger:

    @Eddie:

    We have some really good young players.

    Our roster is no where near as poor as some people try and make out.

    We have under achieved the past couple of years,

    Like JT said himself the position on the ladder is too low for a team of our talent.

    Last couple of years? Its been 5 years since we made the finals and we were rated as favourites in 2012. Yeh but lets just blame Taylor for everything. You are starting to sound as petty and narrow-minded as Stevetiger.

    Geez dude. Did I run over your dog or something.

    Did you know that Taylor and this is true actually takes money off homeless kids. What sort of a person does that ?

    I assume you’re being facetious but it does sound like something you would say. We lose and Taylor is a poor coach. We win, its because we have a good side and Taylor is a poor coach. Its getting ridiculous mate. Open your mind a little to different ideas.



  • @gallagher:

    @Longhorn:

    Phil goulds article on the Tigers vs dragons game isn’t an endorsement of coach taylor, the Tigers have been playing this style since Tim sheens was there and they have for most years been able to have a playing group with freakish talent. Pat Richard’s, sattler, prince, marshal, farah, tuiaki, my favourite hodgson, and then the team is blessed with the solid workers like galea, gibbs, heighington, payton and more…… today we have a new bunch nofa, simona, sue, and i can honestly say the whole roster is a class act. The fact we have 17 hookers is because we have 1 joker not their fault at all. One hooker is costing the club a million dollars a year but hey its not like he is stealing its fair dough that he’s owed and to be frank he is the current nsw hooker as well. Before there is a civil war within this club and the playing group is divided like the fans already are i think it’s best to bump taylor into never coach again land or just pay Robbie what’s rightfully his. Unless one of these guys is hit by a bus something will give and it won’t be pretty.

    What makes you think it may turn until a civil war? all these blokes would have had mstes dumped before. It’s just part off being a footballer.

    The typing …. Lol



  • @Geo.:

    Gus loves us…

    He agreed to coach us in the early days,he wanted $1 more than our highest paid player at the time,Terry Hill,but the Board decided we couldn’t afford him.
    He seems to have a soft spot for the Tiges.,usually doesn’t vent on us as he can do with some other Clubs.



  • @Knuckles:

    @gallagher:

    @Longhorn:

    Phil goulds article on the Tigers vs dragons game isn’t an endorsement of coach taylor, the Tigers have been playing this style since Tim sheens was there and they have for most years been able to have a playing group with freakish talent. Pat Richard’s, sattler, prince, marshal, farah, tuiaki, my favourite hodgson, and then the team is blessed with the solid workers like galea, gibbs, heighington, payton and more…… today we have a new bunch nofa, simona, sue, and i can honestly say the whole roster is a class act. The fact we have 17 hookers is because we have 1 joker not their fault at all. One hooker is costing the club a million dollars a year but hey its not like he is stealing its fair dough that he’s owed and to be frank he is the current nsw hooker as well. Before there is a civil war within this club and the playing group is divided like the fans already are i think it’s best to bump taylor into never coach again land or just pay Robbie what’s rightfully his. Unless one of these guys is hit by a bus something will give and it won’t be pretty.

    What makes you think it may turn until a civil war? all these blokes would have had mstes dumped before. It’s just part off being a footballer.

    The typing …. Lol

    Haha. That’s why i write 9th.


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