Top 25 contracted playing squad / Elijah Taylor - Farah.



  • Earlier in the year I posted the club’s top 25 roster in an attempt to explain some of the more bizarre team selections. This squad was assembled by Jason Taylor prior to Mark O’Neill’s arrival.
    Well today I am sharing the updated list which reflects the departure of Buchanan & Drinkwater who were both in the original top 25 squad.
    Effectively it is Sundays team inc 18th Man Chee Kam along with: Brooks; Farah; Ballin; Cherrington; Sirro; Hunt and Natahan Milone!!
    Both Elijah Taylor & Nathan Milone were added to the top 25 squad with the departures of Buchanan & Drinkwater.
    This helps explain the recent absences of JAC & Felise, as we have now exhausted 2nd tier cap. The club is hoping all 3 teams qualify for finals because then there is a rather convoluted exemption given which may allow us to play both in the NRL side in the semis.
    For those of you that read my brief post regarding Elijah Taylor’s management contacting Justin Pascoe on the same day Farah was dropped notifying him that they have received offers from both the Warriors & the Knights I can now confirm the Warriors have offered $450k x3; the Knights $500k x2 + 1 year club option. Pascoe will do everything in his power to retain ET, and I’m told matching the Warriors offer should be enough i.e. $450k x 3.
    So in summary Farah was in fact dropped to force his hand in an attempt to ‘find’ $450k to sign ET. The club is very confident they will achieve this with a final decision on Farah’s future to be known before the semis. I’d be a bald face liar if I claimed I know where Farah will end up but he definitely won’t be here next year! Both St George & Souths are in the running, the Newcastle deal which involved Uate was never that appealing for the club or Robbie. But I repeat he won’t be here next year, he has burnt some bridges with people of greater influence than Jason Taylor! All I can say is that in 2016 coaches are accountable to CEOs / Boards, and Boards generally don’t like hearing any comments that could be viewed as sexist / misogynistic - even if in jest.
    Jason Taylor continues to have rock solid support but Pascoe is a performance driven pragmatist and his own 3 year plan which the Board is about to sign off on calls for top 8 success for 3 consecutive years starting 2017. This year a top 8 finish would guarantee Taylor would coach next year, as Ivan Cleary is still asking more than the club is prepared to pay. Pascoe & Cleary are very tight, but equally Pascoe & Taylor’s relationship has strengthened in recent weeks. Pascoe and Marina Go families are very close.
    The club contrary to some prophets of gloom and doom is still a happy place to be. No major signings on the horizon for 2017, the club is exploring whether an attractive trade / swap could be put together as part of Farah’s departure. For 2017 - 2020 we appear to have most bases covered and will definitely re-sign 3 of our 4 marquee players and quite possibly all 4 ( Brooks currently ranked 4th / Teddy #1)
    As previously stated the club has huge wraps on Ryan Papenhuyzen along with Paseka; Mapesone and course Liddle. Papenhuyzen’s goal kicking is improving nicely, though he may not be seen again in 2016 due to off filed commitments.
    Nothing else substantive to share, just a personal comment which though it sounds trite is genuinely sincere - Robbie Farah has been a great player for the club, certainly within the top 6 most consistent players we have had since inception. He should be afforded the opportunity for the club’s fans to show their thanks and appreciation, but he must and will leave the club at seasons end - which for Robbie will be a send off against the Raiders in the final round at Leichhardt - I’m told if we’re out of contention he will be in the starting side if not possibly on the bench ( provided the exit strategy has been finalized)



  • Thanks TT. Percentage wise, how confident are you ET will r-sign?


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    Thanks for the info. I’m assuming that is all true so there are some interesting points:-

    1. The club needs to be very careful in relation to signing ET. We can’t overpay players anymore.
    2. The whole Robbie debacle is about money.
    3. It’s good the club is looking to fill some roles with junior talent. I think buying players is hit and miss and I’d rather sign talent that are looking for a chance rather than marquee players who can crash and burn on big dollars.



  • As I previously mentioned whilst Sirro took up the contract option to stay he has still been given permission to negotiate. He is not on the crazy dollars many people quote, the last reliable info I had put him on $280k, but I think the option bumps this to a little over $300k. If Sirro did move on we would be active in the market for a centre / winger. No offers have been tabled at this stage to retain Hunt; Peni; Griffin; Graham. We all but signed David Mead when Teddy committed to Canberra, but I don’t have anything substantive to share regarding possible signings, still too many balls in the air. I wouldn’t expect to much in 2018 either as we will be trying to lock up our own talent - born & bred, not bought & fed continues to be the mantra for recruitment / retention.



  • @GNR4LIFE:

    Thanks TT. Percentage wise, how confident are you ET will r-sign?

    90% given that it was Justin Pascoe that got him to the club in the first place. Pascoe will not let him go without a fight as he admires him greatly.



  • @Tiger Torch:

    So in summary Farah was in fact dropped to force his hand in an attempt to ‘find’ $450k to sign ET…

    No major signings on the horizon for 2017, the club is exploring whether an attractive trade / swap could be put together as part of Farah’s departure.

    Why are we exploring trades if the Farah money is going to need to be used on ET? Trades involve too many people having to agree and have a tendency to drag out, plus one party (which would be us in this case) tends to up with a “compromise” player - someone who is ok for the club’s needs but wouldn’t necessarily have been targeted if it hadn’t been a trade.



  • @stevetiger:

    Thanks for the info. I’m assuming that is all true so there are some interesting points:-……2. The whole Robbie debacle is about money.

    Is it?

    Quote Tiger Torch: “…Robbie…won’t be here next year, he has burnt some bridges with people of greater influence than Jason Taylor!”



  • @stevetiger:

    Thanks for the info. I’m assuming that is all true so there are some interesting points:-

    1. The club needs to be very careful in relation to signing ET. We can’t overpay players anymore.
    2. The whole Robbie debacle is about money.
    3. It’s good the club is looking to fill some roles with junior talent. I think buying players is hit and miss and I’d rather sign talent that are looking for a chance rather than marquee players who can crash and burn on big dollars.

    It was always about freeing up money and rather than him not being in the top 17.

    In regards with JT being here next year….that is what I was told aswell that a top 8 would guarantee his job next year.

    The Club will probably allow JT to Coach next year without any distractions and by mid next year I dare say they will know whether they want him for 2018 and beyond.

    Good report TT, at least we know this saga is about to end…or will it? 😮



  • Quote Tiger Torch: “Boards generally don’t like hearing any comments that could be viewed as sexist / misogynistic - even if in jest.”

    Did Farah have a go?



  • @NT Tiger:

    Quote Tiger Torch: “Boards generally don’t like hearing any comments that could be viewed as sexist / misogynistic - even if in jest.”

    Did Farah have a go?

    I’m not sure if he’s suggesting Farah or taylor here.


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    I was thinking recently of what Robbie was actually guilty of, the only thing that stuck was his comment about PM Gilliard that was completely out of place to such a remarkable woman. Based on what she achieved with a hung senate. Now this is the main reason (may be) that he is being harassed out, I find a bit hard to believe after all this time. Yes all professional women would be upset at captain Farah’s comments but a bit late to hang him up by the long and …… over that. That is only a excuse. We have had three more prime ministers since then.


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    @NT Tiger:

    Quote Tiger Torch: “Boards generally don’t like hearing any comments that could be viewed as sexist / misogynistic - even if in jest.”

    Did Farah have a go?

    It’d be interesting to know if anything happened like this.


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    @Tiger Torch:

    So in summary Farah was in fact dropped to force his hand in an attempt to ‘find’ $450k to sign ET.

    @NT Tiger - I think that this whole debacle comes down to being about managing the cap. If so I think it’s hard to just blame JT. It might have been a club decision.

    In my opinion the point remains though that this is a really poor way to treat a player who has given us great service. It’s not Robbie’s fault that they overpaid him however I do think that Robbie and Benji when he was here pushed for every dollar they could get.



  • @Byron Bay Fan:

    I was thinking recently of what Robbie was actually guilty of, the only thing that stuck was his comment about PM Gilliard that was completely out of place to such a remarkable woman. Based on what she achieved with a hung senate. Now this is the main reason (may be) that he is being harassed out, I find a bit hard to believe after all this time. Yes all professional women would be upset at captain Farah’s comments but a bit late to hang him up by the long and …… over that. That is only a excuse. We have had three more prime ministers since then.

    Was that the tweet saying gillard should get a noose for her bday? Its ironic you bring that up after last week’s weedler story .



  • @Byron Bay Fan:

    I was thinking recently of what Robbie was actually guilty of, the only thing that stuck was his comment about PM Gilliard that was completely out of place to such a remarkable woman. Based on what she achieved with a hung senate. Now this is the main reason (may be) that he is being harassed out, I find a bit hard to believe after all this time. Yes all professional women would be upset at captain Farah’s comments but a bit late to hang him up by the long and …… over that. That is only a excuse. We have had three more prime ministers since then.

    Which implies that it was something else, something he said to people other than the media.


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