NSW eating their own.


  • Banned

    They picked a strong side and easily won game 1 = new dynasty created, its our turn for domination.

    They started strongly but faded in game 2 to narrowly lose = missed opportunity, we’ll get them in game 3 as we have the better team.

    They get embarrassed in game 3, utterly outplayed to lose another series = half the team should be sacked, the coaches should all go, the culture stinks, players on the booze, players disrespecting the coach…etc.

    Point being any one who puts their hand up to play for the blues is putting their head on the chopping block. The thorough arrogance of the NSWRL and Sydney media means the winners are never given credit when it is due. The NSW players are constantly put up on a pedastal only to have it ripped from beneath their feet as soon as the series is over. From the idiot headlines of the papers to the attacks by Joey and Gus after every loss…I actually feel sorry for Laurie and most of the team. Joey’s only contribution during the run was to label GI a black C and Gus has offered even less. They both over talked the side up after game 1 and both defecated on it after game 3. Niether has the balls to take Daley’s job but will criticise at every opportunity. Same goes for the parade of journo’s ive seen on various footy shows. They were talking up a NSW 10 year dynasty, now they are witch hunting for excuses and labelling players as not up to it. Its crazy stuff.

    QLD are lucky that everyone just falls in behind them. After game 1 the consensus was that the selectors got it wrong, it was time for rejuvenation. There wasnt an uproar. Selections were made ending the careers of some long term stallwarts and beginning the careers of the next gen, some of whom were heavily sledged by Sydney media, and we all trusted that theyd do their jobs and mostly left them to it. I reckon fear is a big difference between the teams. QLD arent afraid of losing. As long as they go down swinging the supporter base is satisfied. For NSW however losing means inquiries, weeks of public discussion, whistleblowers leaking activities and lies in the media. Take Pearce for example. He left the country after the loss and who could blame him? With only 1 game in Sydney next year and the blooding of some impressive new maroons, NSW are good chances to go down again. Will anything change or will we be sitting here going over the same stuff again?



  • Tommy Raudonikis “I know someone that went into the Queensland dressing room at Lang Park (Suncorp Stadium) after game one, and it was like somebody died. Nobody spoke. Heads were hung low, people were crying.

    “Our dressing room last night, nowhere like the Queensland dressing room. Blokes were talking to each other like nothing happened. That is the difference between Queensland and New South Wales — and it’s called passion.”

    http://www.news.com.au/sport/nrl/blues-legend-tommy-raudonikis-slams-new-south-wales/news-story/66b3d8c3236833955566069cc060275e



  • @:

    They picked a strong side and easily won game 1 = new dynasty created, its our turn for domination.

    They started strongly but faded in game 2 to narrowly lose = missed opportunity, we’ll get them in game 3 as we have the better team.

    They get embarrassed in game 3, utterly outplayed to lose another series = half the team should be sacked, the coaches should all go, the culture stinks, players on the booze, players disrespecting the coach…etc.

    Point being any one who puts their hand up to play for the blues is putting their head on the chopping block. The thorough arrogance of the NSWRL and Sydney media means the winners are never given credit when it is due. The NSW players are constantly put up on a pedastal only to have it ripped from beneath their feet as soon as the series is over. From the idiot headlines of the papers to the attacks by Joey and Gus after every loss…I actually feel sorry for Laurie and most of the team. Joey’s only contribution during the run was to label GI a black C and Gus has offered even less. They both over talked the side up after game 1 and both defecated on it after game 3. Niether has the balls to take Daley’s job but will criticise at every opportunity. Same goes for the parade of journo’s ive seen on various footy shows. They were talking up a NSW 10 year dynasty, now they are witch hunting for excuses and labelling players as not up to it. Its crazy stuff.

    QLD are lucky that everyone just falls in behind them. After game 1 the consensus was that the selectors got it wrong, it was time for rejuvenation. There wasnt an uproar. Selections were made ending the careers of some long term stallwarts and beginning the careers of the next gen, some of whom were heavily sledged by Sydney media, and we all trusted that theyd do their jobs and mostly left them to it. I reckon fear is a big difference between the teams. QLD arent afraid of losing. As long as they go down swinging the supporter base is satisfied. For NSW however losing means inquiries, weeks of public discussion, whistleblowers leaking activities and lies in the media. Take Pearce for example. He left the country after the loss and who could blame him? With only 1 game in Sydney next year and the blooding of some impressive new maroons, NSW are good chances to go down again. Will anything change or will we be sitting here going over the same stuff again?

    I’m just tuning the violins Stryker. Have you ever heard of the saying a poor winner - oh hang on your Qlder you never would have heard that saying.



  • QLD are lucky.

    Yes


  • Banned

    Diedpretty if you think thats me being a poor winner then youre as dumb as i thought you were.



  • @:

    They picked a strong side and easily won game 1 = new dynasty created, its our turn for domination.

    They started strongly but faded in game 2 to narrowly lose = missed opportunity, we’ll get them in game 3 as we have the better team.

    They get embarrassed in game 3, utterly outplayed to lose another series = half the team should be sacked, the coaches should all go, the culture stinks, players on the booze, players disrespecting the coach…etc.

    Point being any one who puts their hand up to play for the blues is putting their head on the chopping block. The thorough arrogance of the NSWRL and Sydney media means the winners are never given credit when it is due. The NSW players are constantly put up on a pedastal only to have it ripped from beneath their feet as soon as the series is over. From the idiot headlines of the papers to the attacks by Joey and Gus after every loss…I actually feel sorry for Laurie and most of the team. Joey’s only contribution during the run was to label GI a black C and Gus has offered even less. They both over talked the side up after game 1 and both defecated on it after game 3. Niether has the balls to take Daley’s job but will criticise at every opportunity. Same goes for the parade of journo’s ive seen on various footy shows. They were talking up a NSW 10 year dynasty, now they are witch hunting for excuses and labelling players as not up to it. Its crazy stuff.

    QLD are lucky that everyone just falls in behind them. After game 1 the consensus was that the selectors got it wrong, it was time for rejuvenation. There wasnt an uproar. Selections were made ending the careers of some long term stallwarts and beginning the careers of the next gen, some of whom were heavily sledged by Sydney media, and we all trusted that theyd do their jobs and mostly left them to it. I reckon fear is a big difference between the teams. QLD arent afraid of losing. As long as they go down swinging the supporter base is satisfied. For NSW however losing means inquiries, weeks of public discussion, whistleblowers leaking activities and lies in the media. Take Pearce for example. He left the country after the loss and who could blame him? With only 1 game in Sydney next year and the blooding of some impressive new maroons, NSW are good chances to go down again. Will anything change or will we be sitting here going over the same stuff again?

    100% spot on. The Queenslanders never turn on their own and there in lies the difference - and they sit back and laugh when we turn on each other, and realise we still dont get it.
    Nathan Hindmarsh the only NSW rep I have heard who had the courage to not jump on the band wagon and defend the players and admit that he had a few beers a in camp and as long as they were not out of line cant see any problem with it.
    When you have got the likes of people like the Johns brothers and Fittler all taking the moral high ground it makes my skin crawl. And Goulds comments today offered no definitive answers but just took a swipe at all associated with the NSW campaign . What a change in attitude toward the same squad from game one to game three! Disgraceful response not wanting the "Penrith players to be placed in that culture "- what a load of over dramatic BS to wind people up.
    Queensland won the series because they played better than us and have a spine that is arguably the best in the history of the game. We have s very good NSW side who on their day can match them, but beating them in the series has been almost impossible.
    To blame it on the buzz word Culture which nobody can really identify other than it is associated with “losing” is a cop out. At least Daley had the courage to take on the role to battle the best unlike some of those who are so wise in defeat now.



  • Can’t argue with any of that. Game 1 and 2 showed that NSW had the talent to win the series. It’s crazy how after the lose in game 3 everyone is getting torn apart. NSW don’t seem to have to passion and desire to win that QLD do but they also have ex players and media ready to rip in at any moment. Absolute madness.



  • I agree with most of Strykers OP. But it’s easy to fall apart when the chips are down and NSW are certainly down. And it’s easy to bring in players when you are winning.

    However, after game 1 Qld’s unity was under pressure and cracks were showing.

    I think far more Queenslanders would have abandoned the game if the situations were reversed.

    And I think all the retric is rubbish. A team with Thurston, Smith, Slater, Cronk is always going to dominate. The reality isn’t spirit, or anything else. It’s just, great once in a life time players being the core of the current Qld team.

    Oh that and we keep picking Michelle Pearce.


  • Banned

    It is mainly that we were too predictable, they did not have to expect any positional heave hoes because they just not going to occur, not once. We behaved like robots.



  • Can’t really argue with Stryker on this one, unfortunately. The proof is there for all to see. Not sure how to change the culture - an even bigger job than it is with the Tigers.
    Queensland have it, the All Blacks have it - an unforgiving will to win. The Wallabies don’t and the Blues don’t.
    Not sure where we go from here to be honest. It’s not like at the Tigers where you can purchase a dozen players of the right sort of mentality. The blokes who play for NSW have to be the best footballers as well as having the right attitude. They don’t always coincide unfortunately.


  • Banned

    Brissie is like Canberra - what else do they have in the world. So everything - body and soul - is channelled into their respective teams.



  • Blues dont have the desire to compete.

    No heart.

    You wont find a more passionate Blue than me, My Mrs said I was swearing in my sleep and I dont use that language.



  • NSW is looking for a sacrificial scapegoat, whether it be the players, coaching staff or who-ever.

    I don’t even think " Bob the builder can fix NSW Origin team at the moment" 😒


  • Banned

    Backing NSW is like backing the Maggies in days of old. You don’t always get what you want nor want you need…



  • Oh please, what a tired concept.

    Save me your winner’s amateur psychology and patronising “you can do better, I can see where you went wrong” tripe. Leave it to NSW supporters to decide what NSW does next.

    Of course NSW are struggling, we’ve lost 11/12 series. Of course there is derision, concern, conflict, contradiction. There are 7.5 million potentially invested newsouthwelshpeople giving their 2c on this topic, vs 4.7 banana benders. Or maybe that’s the problem - maybe many NSW residents aren’t invested in footy in the way QLDers are, and that impacts the representative side.

    But don’t tell me what QLD would never do, when you haven’t actually ever had to do it. Don’t tell me how you’d handle sustained adversity.

    You overhauled the side once this series and now you are lauding yourself for having the guts to do it. Newsflash: NSW overhauls the team every year, overhauls are not a yardstick for success. NSW have used 267 players and QLD 192 over the entire SOO concept. Overhauling the team is a problem, not a positive step, and the fact that QLD had to do it so emphatically this year should be concerning.

    Don’t congratulate yourself that the QLD media “fell in line” with the team changes. Who is going to criticise a 92% effective series winning organisation? Why bother criticising? Sit back and allow the proven formula to work.

    Don’t tell me NSWRL is arrogant when QLD have 10 of the Top 11 all-time match appearance players, 4 of those being active in 2017. Don’t try that on when QLD have 6/7 all-time top try scorers (3 of the top 4 being active QLD players), when QLD have 7/11 all time top points scorers (4 of whom are active in 2017).

    You have a golden generation and a system that lets them do their work. It might go for a while longer, it might not, but try not to cast too much superiority and judgement on the team that doesn’t have the luxury of Australia’s starting spine for the last 10 years, doesn’t have the luxury of 4 regional teams (including Melbourne, let’s count apples with apples) instead of 11, to foster player coherence, doesn’t have the luxury of leaning heavily on the success and unique advantages of the Broncos and Storm.

    Don’t forget so easily that NSW won 10 of the 16 series between 1990 and 2005, including 2 draws where QLD retained the shield, and 2 x three-peats. Don’t forget the concern and anxiety that stakeholders had when they considered the possibility that NSW might achieve a long-term dynasty that could kill off the golden cash cow that is Origin.

    Be happy that the ratings remain strong, the interest remains strong, despite NSW being consistently belted. Be happy that the platform exists for you to laud your superior team. Take some time to consider the fact that QLD have never won an Under 20s SOO GAME in 6 attempts and whether that might have implications for your Opens side in the future.


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