Balmain 80s/90s

Some figures posted elsewhere showed my the drastic drop of Balmain from powerhouse they were in the 80s to the 90s not so

What actually happened to create such a fall?

I imagine the retirements of Blokes like Jnr, Sirro Block etc played their parts… the Alan Jones time, Im genuinely interested, wests werent faring much better and my interest in the game in the 90s wasnt strong as I had a lot going on then

This isnt meant to be any wests v balmain thing, I hope it doesnt degenarate into that.
Many members here know more than anyone exactly what happened

Roster, Star Casino and demographic.

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Two words - Alan Jones

But how did they get to the point that he was the best option as coach? Or even consideed?

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Two words - Alan Jones

But how did they get to the point that he was the best option as coach? Or even consideed?

I don’t know why he was considered. We were experiencing success, had a great roster and he was a successful coach. I suppose those with the responsibility thought he could take a well coached group even further. What no one figured was his coaching style would be flatly rejected by the players. He lost the shed very early. I can’t remember the guys name but he brought in a young rugby five eighth who was useless. Became a Jones favourite but disliked by the senior players. That’s all I know

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Two words - Alan Jones

But how did they get to the point that he was the best option as coach? Or even consideed?

I don’t know why he was considered. We were experiencing success, had a great roster and he was a successful coach. I suppose those with the responsibility thought he could take a well coached group even further. What no one figured was his coaching style would be flatly rejected by the players. He lost the shed very early. I can’t remember the guys name but he brought in a young rugby five eighth who was useless. Became a Jones favourite but disliked by the senior players. That’s all I know

Brian Smith. Just signing a union coach was desperate. From Warren Ryan to somone that had never coached league.

Is it true he wasnt paid to coach?
I read somewhere he did it for free

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Two words - Alan Jones

But how did they get to the point that he was the best option as coach? Or even consideed?

Our next door neighbour when we were growing up, worked with Jones.
He knew that I was a huge Tiger fan, he told me that Jones would give to Tigers a premiership but would wreck the club.
He didn’t deliver a premiership, but he certainly had a hand in destroying the club.

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Two words - Alan Jones

But how did they get to the point that he was the best option as coach? Or even consideed?

I don’t know why he was considered. We were experiencing success, had a great roster and he was a successful coach. I suppose those with the responsibility thought he could take a well coached group even further. What no one figured was his coaching style would be flatly rejected by the players. He lost the shed very early. I can’t remember the guys name but he brought in a young rugby five eighth who was useless. Became a Jones favourite but disliked by the senior players. That’s all I know

Brian Smith( not the coach) - just didnt work.

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Two words - Alan Jones

But how did they get to the point that he was the best option as coach? Or even consideed?

I don’t know why he was considered. We were experiencing success, had a great roster and he was a successful coach. I suppose those with the responsibility thought he could take a well coached group even further. What no one figured was his coaching style would be flatly rejected by the players. He lost the shed very early. I can’t remember the guys name but he brought in a young rugby five eighth who was useless. Became a Jones favourite but disliked by the senior players. That’s all I know

Brian Smith. Just signing a union coach was desperate. From Warren Ryan to somone that had never coached league.

Was Whizz freeman dropped for Smith?
Was a great bloke Freeman very easy to talk to, met him at the ‘‘stop the rot’’ Save leichhardt oval media day

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Two words - Alan Jones

But how did they get to the point that he was the best option as coach? Or even consideed?

Our next door neighbour when we were growing up, worked with Jones.
He knew that I was a huge Tiger fan, he told me that Jones would give to Tigers a premiership but would wreck the club.
He didn’t deliver a premiership, but he certainly had a hand in destroying the club.

I’d imagine whoever appointed him as coach doesn’t admit to it.

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But how did they get to the point that he was the best option as coach? Or even consideed?

I don’t know why he was considered. We were experiencing success, had a great roster and he was a successful coach. I suppose those with the responsibility thought he could take a well coached group even further. What no one figured was his coaching style would be flatly rejected by the players. He lost the shed very early. I can’t remember the guys name but he brought in a young rugby five eighth who was useless. Became a Jones favourite but disliked by the senior players. That’s all I know

Brian Smith. Just signing a union coach was desperate. From Warren Ryan to somone that had never coached league.

Was Whizz freeman dropped for Smith?
Was a great bloke Freeman very easy to talk to, met him at the ‘‘stop the rot’’ Save leichhardt oval media day

Yeah Freeman got dropped and i don’t think ever got back.

http://www.rugbyleagueproject.org/teams/balmain-tigers/coaches.html

Balmain in the 90’s
Jones was at the Tigers 91-93 36.4% win rate
Junior Pearce was there from 94-99 36% win rate

http://www.rugbyleagueproject.org/teams/wests-tigers/coaches.html

Tim Sheens 48.8% win rate

http://www.rugbyleagueproject.org/teams/western-suburbs-magpies/coaches.html

Magpies In the 90’s
Raudonikas 33.6%
Warren Ryan 44%

Warren Ryan at Balmain 89-90 65.8%

Jones was 3% better than Tommy R

Pearce “improved” to 42.3% as Westsigers coach 2nd only to Sheens - Cleary is at 41.4%

Stats c/- http://www.rugbyleagueproject.org/ Great effort by them!

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Two words - Alan Jones

But how did they get to the point that he was the best option as coach? Or even consideed?

Our next door neighbour when we were growing up, worked with Jones.
He knew that I was a huge Tiger fan, he told me that Jones would give to Tigers a premiership but would wreck the club.
He didn’t deliver a premiership, but he certainly had a hand in destroying the club.

I’d imagine whoever appointed him as coach doesn’t admit to it.

From what I can remember there was a train of thought, that he would be able to bring a lot of corporate dollars to the club with his connections.

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But how did they get to the point that he was the best option as coach? Or even consideed?

Our next door neighbour when we were growing up, worked with Jones.
He knew that I was a huge Tiger fan, he told me that Jones would give to Tigers a premiership but would wreck the club.
He didn’t deliver a premiership, but he certainly had a hand in destroying the club.

I’d imagine whoever appointed him as coach doesn’t admit to it.

From what I can remember there was a train of thought, that he would be able to bring a lot of corporate dollars to the club with his connections.

He’s a great salesman.