Maguire urges Tigers to play the imitation game



  • @851 the problem is our reserve grade team is full of plodders too…no skill or athleticism there unfortunately



  • @851 If Mbye continues on this path, for sure he’ll need to be dropped at some point, probably sooner rather than later. Being captain throws a spanner in the works though… But we do have better options currently that can cover that position.



  • @tigerap I agree, but at least if the player is dropped, he might actually realise the coach is fair dinkum, if the coach picks and chooses who he drops, we get a huge run of bad games like Marsters and Mbye are churning out right now, there are others who deserve it as well. Short term pain for long term gain.
    Bellamy has put Melbourne players on notice after a 2 point loss, saying they will be tapped on the shoulder and told to look elsewhere, that is the hard love we need, and Melbourne don’t have a star studded roster like the roosters either.



  • Sometimes it’s hard to get a good read on reserve grade players. It’s often the case of playing like a reserve grader when you’re surrounded by them and when opportunity knocks in the top grade some players take it with both hands and surprise everyone. They asked a handful of coaches on The Fan ( i think) about when you know a player is ready for first grade and pretty much they all said you never do until you put them in there.



  • @Spud_Murphy. It also helps when the refs stop the game 3 times because Latrelle was tired.



  • Also let’s not forget that this is not Madge’s team, it’s Ivan’s team that he’s trying to do his best with.

    If we trust that Madge has the ability to mould and coach a decent side, then the realistic fruits of that effort start to come when he gets to make the recruitment decisions.

    So 1-2 years we get more the side Madge wants. 3-4 years we have precisely the cattle Madge wants.



  • Wonderful… Until he gets punted, quits or runs off to join the circus and then the next bloke’s s left with Madges team



  • Money-ball style recruitment in full effect.

    Like in the past when we signed lowkey players such as - Blake Austin (Panthers), Martin Taupau (Bulldogs), Josh Addo-Carr (Sharks NYC), Kevin Naiqama (Penrith ISC / Journeyman) and we’ve done it again with players like Ryan Matterson (Roosters), Luke Garner (Manly NYC, Roosters ISC) & Alex Twal, Josh Aloiai (Parra NYC) and you can possible throw Michael Che-Kam on the list too.

    These are extremely SMART signings.
    Splashing cash (McQueen, Packer, Matulino, Reynolds, Mbye, Etc) is the opposite = STUPID. FAILURE.

    I got laughed down for suggesting we sign Michael Liicha now the roosters are wanting to sign him…



  • @innsaneink said in Maguire urges Tigers to play the imitation game:

    Wonderful… Until he gets punted, quits or runs off to join the circus and then the next bloke’s s left with Madges team

    😂


  • Banned

    Ho hum …another 4 years and what then? Thats right, rebuild and repeat. Our club has a loser mentality in its backwards thinking.

    Comps are won and lost these days over a 2 year period. You dont grow talent, you purchase it. You dont do it by the rules either. You look for a player’s pinch point and you exploit it. Does a players wife want to do a law degree? Fund it off the books. A young up and comer’s father has cancer? We’ll unofficially look after his treatment. A player is sending a large portion of his money back home to support his family? We’ll take care of that mate, you get yourself a nice place on the coast.

    This is how its done. We are too chicken turd to do it. Rugby League is not a sport. Its an entertainment business and we are poor at it. We cant imitate an organisation operating on a different plain like the Roosters, Mebourne, Souths, Broncs etc anymore than Bob’s Building Services can imitate Lendlease.

    Its a fallacy thats laughable. We havent got a core group that can form the foundations of a dynasty at all. We have a bunch of 6/10 players who on their day hit 7.5/10. We need to buy/pinch/steal half a dozen blokes who give you 8/10 as a base every week. If they fail then you throw them away and get some more. Players are not family, not your mates…they are professional commodities - tools used to win comps. Expendable.



  • Let’s spare everyone the headache and just get the Storm and Roosters to play the GF now.
    Get it over and done with.



  • @Kev said in Maguire urges Tigers to play the imitation game:

    Ho hum …another 4 years and what then? Thats right, rebuild and repeat. Our club has a loser mentality in its backwards thinking.

    Comps are won and lost these days over a 2 year period. You dont grow talent, you purchase it. You dont do it by the rules either. You look for a player’s pinch point and you exploit it. Does a players wife want to do a law degree? Fund it off the books. A young up and comer’s father has cancer? We’ll unofficially look after his treatment. A player is sending a large portion of his money back home to support his family? We’ll take care of that mate, you get yourself a nice place on the coast.

    This is how its done. We are too chicken turd to do it. Rugby League is not a sport. Its an entertainment business and we are poor at it. We cant imitate an organisation operating on a different plain like the Roosters, Mebourne, Souths, Broncs etc anymore than Bob’s Building Services can imitate Lendlease.

    Its a fallacy thats laughable. We havent got a core group that can form the foundations of a dynasty at all. We have a bunch of 6/10 players who on their day hit 7.5/10. We need to buy/pinch/steal half a dozen blokes who give you 8/10 as a base every week. If they fail then you throw them away and get some more. Players are not family, not your mates…they are professional commodities - tools used to win comps. Expendable.

    Souths and the sharks might challenge the storm, and I know souths beat easts first game, but easts have an international team, and it is their comp to lose.


  • Banned

    @851 the only way Roosters lose the comp this year is if the NRL provide them with incentive to do so. On a playing field with zero external influence on games, Easts are twice as good as team 2 who are half as good again as team 3. Everyone else is just playing to sell merchandise each weekend.



  • @Kev said in Maguire urges Tigers to play the imitation game:

    Ho hum …another 4 years and what then? Thats right, rebuild and repeat. Our club has a loser mentality in its backwards thinking.

    Comps are won and lost these days over a 2 year period. You dont grow talent, you purchase it. You dont do it by the rules either. You look for a player’s pinch point and you exploit it. Does a players wife want to do a law degree? Fund it off the books. A young up and comer’s father has cancer? We’ll unofficially look after his treatment. A player is sending a large portion of his money back home to support his family? We’ll take care of that mate, you get yourself a nice place on the coast.

    This is how its done. We are too chicken turd to do it. Rugby League is not a sport. Its an entertainment business and we are poor at it. We cant imitate an organisation operating on a different plain like the Roosters, Mebourne, Souths, Broncs etc anymore than Bob’s Building Services can imitate Lendlease.

    Its a fallacy thats laughable. We havent got a core group that can form the foundations of a dynasty at all. We have a bunch of 6/10 players who on their day hit 7.5/10. We need to buy/pinch/steal half a dozen blokes who give you 8/10 as a base every week. If they fail then you throw them away and get some more. Players are not family, not your mates…they are professional commodities - tools used to win comps. Expendable.

    You are dreaming, naive or both but not right.
    Sorry but just my opinion.


  • Banned

    @momo_amp_medo thats fine, we dont have to agree. Ive read many of your pie in the sky posts and think that mentality is the problem with the club.
    To each his own.


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