Peter Beattie to stand down as ARLC head.



  • @2005magic said in Peter Beattie to stand down as ARLC head.:

    Beattie- wont miss him, but if anything, his getting the NRL to finally be dragged kicking and screaming into not accepting horrendous player behaviour off the field is commended. The players, managers and many others dont like it but tough.

    V’Landys- will be interesting as the long time steward of harness racing, he was instrumental in setting standards and accountability within the industry. I’m not sure how long he will / would accept CEO Greenburg’s inconsistant, flexible standards in judging issues as they arise. I think this will be an anathema to V’Landys.

    Greenburg and his cronies- the refereeing standards, bunker set up- I’d be very, very nervous.

    This new Chairman might actually have the gumption to take on the players union, player managers and club power. Not all at once but bit by bit.

    One can only hope…with the end goal being kicking the Storm out of the NRL competition who how they have ruined the game in the last 15 years



  • @2005magic said in Peter Beattie to stand down as ARLC head.:

    Beattie- wont miss him, but if anything, his getting the NRL to finally be dragged kicking and screaming into not accepting horrendous player behaviour off the field is commended. The players, managers and many others dont like it but tough.

    Agreed; he pushed through the player stand-down rule. He’s also trying to get the “cannot have been associated with a club within last 3 years” rule removed, which is an unpopular move in some centres, but which also limits the talent pool that the ARLC can draw on.

    I would be in favour of removing that rule, because many of the best league administrators and businessmen in the game are associated with clubs, and 3 years is an arbitrary time period, as if blokes like Politis aren’t pro-Roosters after a 3-year break.

    Beattie is willing to get through some unpopular changes on his way out, rather than preserve his political station.

    Also if I’m not mistaken, Beattie is going to stand for re-election as a regular old commissioner, just not the chairman?



  • He’s an absolute tool and fool. Can’t wait until I cannot see him anymore. An absolute joke of an appointment that should never have been made.



  • @Cultured_Bogan
    Peter Beattie had been quoted as saying V’landys will do a better job than Him.COCO THE CLOWN would do a better job.



  • It’s far too easy to criticise people in positions of power just for how they appear in public. Beattie, Greenburg, John Grant, Pascoe, Barry O’Farrell, even Marina Go before she left, people just so fast to put the boot in without really having any idea exactly what the person has or has not achieved in their role, or even what their role is.

    It’s like a lazy cliche.

    Is Beattie a boofhead? I really have no idea. Never met the bloke, never seen him actually doing his job apart from press conferences. He presided over a whole state for 9 years and won 4 consecutive state elections, including bringing Labor back into power in 1998. You can’t be a complete moron and also achieve that, you must have some kind of chops whether they be political only, business, strategy, popular vote etc.

    I’m no Beattie enthusiast and I literally don’t care if he is stepping down, but I also don’t claim to have an informed opinion about his actual ability.

    On the far end of the spectrum, Dave Smith was hounded for not being a “league man” and not “understanding” key facts or concepts of the game, yet by all reports was a very capable businessman and produced results - record TV deal etc.

    It’s all very “rugby league”, this criticism; why can’t people just say “thanks for your effort and all the best”?



  • @jirskyr said in Peter Beattie to stand down as ARLC head.:

    It’s far too easy to criticise people in positions of power just for how they appear in public. Beattie, Greenburg, John Grant, Pascoe, Barry O’Farrell, even Marina Go before she left, people just so fast to put the boot in without really having any idea exactly what the person has or has not achieved in their role, or even what their role is.

    It’s like a lazy cliche.

    Is Beattie a boofhead? I really have no idea. Never met the bloke, never seen him actually doing his job apart from press conferences. He presided over a whole state for 9 years and won 4 consecutive state elections, including bringing Labor back into power in 1998. You can’t be a complete moron and also achieve that, you must have some kind of chops whether they be political only, business, strategy, popular vote etc.

    I’m no Beattie enthusiast and I literally don’t care if he is stepping down, but I also don’t claim to have an informed opinion about his actual ability.

    On the far end of the spectrum, Dave Smith was hounded for not being a “league man” and not “understanding” key facts or concepts of the game, yet by all reports was a very capable businessman and produced results - record TV deal etc.

    It’s all very “rugby league”, this criticism; why can’t people just say “thanks for your effort and all the best”?

    Reasoned points. I personally think he was out of his depth. Pretty sure Dave Smith could have named all 16 teams without issue.



  • @Cultured_Bogan said in Peter Beattie to stand down as ARLC head.:

    Reasoned points. I personally think he was out of his depth. Pretty sure Dave Smith could have named all 16 teams without issue.

    You have made my point exactly. Who cares if the chairperson knows the name of every team off the top of their head? That’s not a pre-requisite of doing good business or setting strategy.

    Dave Smith couldn’t even point out Cameron Smith and instead made reference to Benji Barba. Didn’t really stop him doing his job though.



  • @jirskyr said in Peter Beattie to stand down as ARLC head.:

    It’s far too easy to criticise people in positions of power just for how they appear in public. Beattie, Greenburg, John Grant, Pascoe, Barry O’Farrell, even Marina Go before she left, people just so fast to put the boot in without really having any idea exactly what the person has or has not achieved in their role, or even what their role is.

    It’s like a lazy cliche.

    Is Beattie a boofhead? I really have no idea. Never met the bloke, never seen him actually doing his job apart from press conferences. He presided over a whole state for 9 years and won 4 consecutive state elections, including bringing Labor back into power in 1998. You can’t be a complete moron and also achieve that, you must have some kind of chops whether they be political only, business, strategy, popular vote etc.

    I’m no Beattie enthusiast and I literally don’t care if he is stepping down, but I also don’t claim to have an informed opinion about his actual ability.

    On the far end of the spectrum, Dave Smith was hounded for not being a “league man” and not “understanding” key facts or concepts of the game, yet by all reports was a very capable businessman and produced results - record TV deal etc.

    It’s all very “rugby league”, this criticism; why can’t people just say “thanks for your effort and all the best”?

    Because what effort? Beattie is like a dear in headlights and has absolutely no clue. The worst appointment that could have been made. His only interest is looking good. He has made zero positive contribution to Rugby League making up changes on the fly without understanding any of the underlying issues. See ya and don’t come back.



  • @mike said in Peter Beattie to stand down as ARLC head.:

    Because what effort? Beattie is like a dear in headlights and has absolutely no clue. The worst appointment that could have been made. His only interest is looking good. He has made zero positive contribution to Rugby League making up changes on the fly without understanding any of the underlying issues. See ya and don’t come back.

    I actually I assume you don’t know any of that to be true and your opinion is based entirely on perception you take from the media. I am guessing you literally have no idea what he has or has not done in his tenure. Happy to be corrected if you know something concrete.

    Anyone with any knowledge of the history of rugby league administration will know that it is, unfortunately, littered with mistakes, self-interest and grudges. Of all the people to be in charge of different facets of league over the past 110 years, Beattie does not stand out as particularly bad or particularly self-interested; I am not aware of any critical mistakes made?

    If we are talking about gaffes - I don’t care. Beattie is no more a bumbler or self-interested jibberer than Barry O’Farrell.



  • @jirskyr said in Peter Beattie to stand down as ARLC head.:

    @mike said in Peter Beattie to stand down as ARLC head.:

    Because what effort? Beattie is like a dear in headlights and has absolutely no clue. The worst appointment that could have been made. His only interest is looking good. He has made zero positive contribution to Rugby League making up changes on the fly without understanding any of the underlying issues. See ya and don’t come back.

    I actually I assume you don’t know any of that to be true and your opinion is based entirely on perception you take from the media. I am guessing you literally have no idea what he has or has not done in his tenure. Happy to be corrected if you know something concrete.

    Anyone with any knowledge of the history of rugby league administration will know that it is, unfortunately, littered with mistakes, self-interest and grudges. Of all the people to be in charge of different facets of league over the past 110 years, Beattie does not stand out as particularly bad or particularly self-interested; I am not aware of any critical mistakes made?

    If we are talking about gaffes - I don’t care. Beattie is no more a bumbler or self-interested jibberer than Barry O’Farrell.

    Tell me what Beattie has done. I’ve listened to him, not just what is interpreted reported by a third party but his actual words, speeches and interviews and he is absolutely clueless. He has plenty of opportunity to layout his plans and thoughts for the Rugby League but all you ever get is gibberish and cliches. The worst appointment by a long shot in a number of years. The guy is an idiot, and yes that is my opinion of him. Of course you are entitled to yours.



  • @jirskyr said in Peter Beattie to stand down as ARLC head.:

    @Cultured_Bogan said in Peter Beattie to stand down as ARLC head.:

    Reasoned points. I personally think he was out of his depth. Pretty sure Dave Smith could have named all 16 teams without issue.

    You have made my point exactly. Who cares if the chairperson knows the name of every team off the top of their head? That’s not a pre-requisite of doing good business or setting strategy.

    Dave Smith couldn’t even point out Cameron Smith and instead made reference to Benji Barba. Didn’t really stop him doing his job though.

    That was what I was alluding to. Smith could have named 16 clubs but didn’t know the games biggest names. It’s not pivotal to the role but certainly helps the image to have a clue what’s going on.



  • @mike said in Peter Beattie to stand down as ARLC head.:

    Tell me what Beattie has done. I’ve listened to him, not just what is interpreted reported by a third party but his actual words, speeches and interviews and he is absolutely clueless. He has plenty of opportunity to layout his plans and thoughts for the Rugby League but all you ever get is gibberish and cliches. The worst appointment by a long shot in a number of years. The guy is an idiot, and yes that is my opinion of him. Of course you are entitled to yours.

    Well for starters, the burden of proof is on you, not me. I am not criticising or talking Beattie up, I am neutral about it. I am challenging the assertion that he hasn’t done any good.

    Of course you can believe he’s an idiot, but I also think it’s a grave mistake to judge someone solely by how they appear in the media. You don’t like the way he talks, fine. That doesn’t necessarily reflect on his business, management or strategy abilities.

    Wayne Bennett is a horrible speaker, but he is judged on 40 years of coaching output, not how he performs at press conferences.

    And actually I would submit that Beattie is quite active on taking his thoughts and strategy public - perhaps too much, through his twitter and press conferences, which inevitably leads to gaffes or mistakes. John Grant hardly said boo in his 6 years as Chair.

    Do you not ever notice a trend how the administrators are always unpopular? That’s because they push against the clubs and the club agendas. There’s a reason it’s an independent group. Clubs cause half the media stir around the ARLC.

    So what did Beattie do? In < 2 years of him being Chair, the ARLC has:

    • launched the NRL Women’s comp
    • pushed through the no-fault stand-down for players in criminal trouble
    • lobbied successfully for the NSW Govt to rebuild/refurbish ANZ and SFS
    • signed a new deal for the Grand Final to stay in Sydney
    • Magic Round in Brisbane
    • SOO deals with Perth and Adelaide
    • Defined their Pacific Test strategy including Tier 1 Tonga
    • Admitted Fiji to NSWRL
    • Brought the expansion discussion back to the table

    Now I’m not saying he’s an outstanding success and I don’t know how much he is personally responsible for the above strategies. There are obviously negatives as well, which I cannot clearly say whether or not he is responsible. E.g. the reffing situation I believe falls to the NRL not the ARLC.

    So you don’t like the way he talks, or you think he sounds like he has no clue. I again put it to you that anyone who has been re-elected State premier 4 times cannot be a clueless moron, unless the entire voting populace of QLD are themselves morons.



  • @Cultured_Bogan said in Peter Beattie to stand down as ARLC head.:

    @jirskyr said in Peter Beattie to stand down as ARLC head.:

    @Cultured_Bogan said in Peter Beattie to stand down as ARLC head.:

    Reasoned points. I personally think he was out of his depth. Pretty sure Dave Smith could have named all 16 teams without issue.

    You have made my point exactly. Who cares if the chairperson knows the name of every team off the top of their head? That’s not a pre-requisite of doing good business or setting strategy.

    Dave Smith couldn’t even point out Cameron Smith and instead made reference to Benji Barba. Didn’t really stop him doing his job though.

    That was what I was alluding to. Smith could have named 16 clubs but didn’t know the games biggest names. It’s not pivotal to the role but certainly helps the image to have a clue what’s going on.

    Sorry I misunderstood.



  • @jirskyr said in Peter Beattie to stand down as ARLC head.:

    @Cultured_Bogan said in Peter Beattie to stand down as ARLC head.:

    @jirskyr said in Peter Beattie to stand down as ARLC head.:

    @Cultured_Bogan said in Peter Beattie to stand down as ARLC head.:

    Reasoned points. I personally think he was out of his depth. Pretty sure Dave Smith could have named all 16 teams without issue.

    You have made my point exactly. Who cares if the chairperson knows the name of every team off the top of their head? That’s not a pre-requisite of doing good business or setting strategy.

    Dave Smith couldn’t even point out Cameron Smith and instead made reference to Benji Barba. Didn’t really stop him doing his job though.

    That was what I was alluding to. Smith could have named 16 clubs but didn’t know the games biggest names. It’s not pivotal to the role but certainly helps the image to have a clue what’s going on.

    Sorry I misunderstood.

    Nah that’s fair enough mate. I re-read my post and I didn’t articulate it very well. I tend to do bash my posts in while the idea/point is fresh in my head and I often don’t communicate it very well.



  • @jirskyr said in Peter Beattie to stand down as ARLC head.:

    @mike said in Peter Beattie to stand down as ARLC head.:

    Tell me what Beattie has done. I’ve listened to him, not just what is interpreted reported by a third party but his actual words, speeches and interviews and he is absolutely clueless. He has plenty of opportunity to layout his plans and thoughts for the Rugby League but all you ever get is gibberish and cliches. The worst appointment by a long shot in a number of years. The guy is an idiot, and yes that is my opinion of him. Of course you are entitled to yours.

    Well for starters, the burden of proof is on you, not me. I am not criticising or talking Beattie up, I am neutral about it. I am challenging the assertion that he hasn’t done any good.

    Of course you can believe he’s an idiot, but I also think it’s a grave mistake to judge someone solely by how they appear in the media. You don’t like the way he talks, fine. That doesn’t necessarily reflect on his business, management or strategy abilities.

    Wayne Bennett is a horrible speaker, but he is judged on 40 years of coaching output, not how he performs at press conferences.

    And actually I would submit that Beattie is quite active on taking his thoughts and strategy public - perhaps too much, through his twitter and press conferences, which inevitably leads to gaffes or mistakes. John Grant hardly said boo in his 6 years as Chair.

    Do you not ever notice a trend how the administrators are always unpopular? That’s because they push against the clubs and the club agendas. There’s a reason it’s an independent group. Clubs cause half the media stir around the ARLC.

    So what did Beattie do? In < 2 years of him being Chair, the ARLC has:

    • launched the NRL Women’s comp
    • pushed through the no-fault stand-down for players in criminal trouble
    • lobbied successfully for the NSW Govt to rebuild/refurbish ANZ and SFS
    • signed a new deal for the Grand Final to stay in Sydney
    • Magic Round in Brisbane
    • SOO deals with Perth and Adelaide
    • Defined their Pacific Test strategy including Tier 1 Tonga
    • Admitted Fiji to NSWRL
    • Brought the expansion discussion back to the table

    Now I’m not saying he’s an outstanding success and I don’t know how much he is personally responsible for the above strategies. There are obviously negatives as well, which I cannot clearly say whether or not he is responsible. E.g. the reffing situation I believe falls to the NRL not the ARLC.

    So you don’t like the way he talks, or you think he sounds like he has no clue. I again put it to you that anyone who has been re-elected State premier 4 times cannot be a clueless moron, unless the entire voting populace of QLD are themselves morons.

    The question that has to answered is Rugby League better or worse after his appointment. The answer is a resounding worse. Crowds and TV audience are disappearing faster than ever before. This will most likely affect the next TV deal. Changes are made on the fly without due diligence to the consequences of those changes. The buck stops with Beattie. Feb can’t come around soon enough.


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