Zane Musgrove

@Newtown said in Zane Musgrove:

I wonder how the following case will impact on Musgrove’s case;

Ex-NRL player guilty of sexual assault
By AAP
2:30pm Oct 16, 2019

A former NRL player has been found guilty of groping a female casino worker while celebrating Queensland winning the 2017 State of Origin decider.athan Sologinkin, 41, denied touching the woman on the vagina on the outside of her clothing in the crowded Treasury Casino in Brisbane on July 13, 2017.However, a Brisbane District Court jury on Wednesday found him guilty of sexual assault.

The father of three played first grade rugby league between 1997 and 2003, with stints at the South Queensland Crushers, Canberra Raiders, Canterbury Bulldogs and Melbourne Storm. He had gone to the Origin decider with his brother-in-law and a cousin before joining hundreds of Maroons fans at the casino celebrations.Footage played to the jury showed him pushing through the crowd and chatting animatedly to fellow Maroon fans as he made his way to the bar.

The Crown presented evidence that as he was walking past the woman in the crowd, in one motion he touched her from vagina to hip, during a 0.31-second window, before walking on. The woman reported the alleged assault to casino staff, who then used CCTV footage and tracked down Sologinkin.

“Women are, of course, entitled to make a living and not expect to be sexually assaulted during the course of that employment,” crown prosecutor Stephanie Gallagher said during sentencing submissions. She was also subject to “distressing” cross-examination.

Sologinkin told the court he had three beers at the game and up to seven rum and cokes at the casino as he celebrated until about 1.45am. His defence barrister claimed the woman had not initially considered it assault and apologised to Solongkin for the contact. But the victim later changed details of the allegation to accuse Sologinkin of sliding his hand up her leg to touch her genitals, the court was told.

The court heard Sologinkin’s position as president of the Albany Creek Crushers junior league club in Brisbane is now in jeopardy .Defence barrister Craig Eberhardt has called for Sologinkin to avoid a custodial sentence and instead receive a fine and good behaviour bond so he can continue his contributions to junior rugby league. He will be sentenced on Wednesday afternoon.
© AAP 2019

It will have absolutely no impact on Musgrove’s case. A Magistrate isn’t going to change their view of the facts and evidence in a case before them because a jury dealing with an entirely different set of facts and evidence in another jurisdiction took a particular view. That’s not how it works.

@Jimmy said in Zane Musgrove:

Whatever happens Musgrove would greatly Improve our pack, him coming aboard would mean huth the plodder would be seen as depth and not actually be in the starting 17, i for one would be fine with him joining the club if he is found not guilty and attends counciling

Counseling for what?

If he is found not guilty he has been found to have done nothing wrong.

@The_Patriot he most definitely will need counseling from what has unfolded if found not guilty…imagine being. Young prop ready to make your name in the game and be told no you can’t play for a whole year all for nothing…a lie…he would be furious and or depressed as that’s 25 games he can’t gain back…so he’s gonna need counseling no matter the outcome it’s just depends if it’ll be for sexual indecency or anger/depression

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Just saying…what if Jack DB is found not guilty

@WT2019 said in Zane Musgrove:

Just saying…what if Jack DB is found not guilty

Sack him!!! I wouldn’t care as what he’s already proven to have done in this instance is bad enough, another Matterson at his next contract window too (possibly). Arrow seems an intelligent and hardworking young man, the only player I’d contemplate as a recruit mgr

@WT2019 said in Zane Musgrove:

Just saying…what if Jack DB is found not guilty

Nah, not guilty is not the same as innocent. However, if the judge in his/her reasons finds that there was no case or similar, then that is another story. So unless such is found, I don’t want him anywhere near WT.

Don’t know why we would be interested in a fringe first grader who has been out of footy for 12 months for …

These blokes are always found to be ‘not guilty’, the courts never really take these cases seriously.

@Tigerboy said in Zane Musgrove:

@WT2019 said in Zane Musgrove:

Just saying…what if Jack DB is found not guilty

Sack him!!! I wouldn’t care as what he’s already proven to have done in this instance is bad enough, another Matterson at his next contract window too (possibly). Arrow seems an intelligent and hardworking young man, the only player I’d contemplate as a recruit mgr

guy should still be sacked for bringing the game into disrepute…his actions show what an absolute grub he is…show’s he has the moral fortitude of an absolute worm

@Jimmy said in Zane Musgrove:

@The_Patriot he most definitely will need counseling from what has unfolded if found not guilty…imagine being. Young prop ready to make your name in the game and be told no you can’t play for a whole year all for nothing…a lie…he would be furious and or depressed as that’s 25 games he can’t gain back…so he’s gonna need counseling no matter the outcome it’s just depends if it’ll be for sexual indecency or anger/depression

If he is found not guilty I doubt that he would be seeking counselling. Not everyone in this world is a snowflake. A lot of people actually do handle adversity quite well and grow as a person afterwards. You say you would take him on board if he has counselling which assumes if he doesn’t have or need counselling you don’t want him here. The argument could be put that if he requires counselling by all means get it but it would then put in to question his ability to perform under pressure.

@diedpretty you can go through tough times, be affected by it and still not require counseling. People handle tough situations differently.

I’m not knocking counseling but the idea that it is a requirement to handle difficult times is insane. It may work for some people but not everyone needs to take that route.

@Earl said in Zane Musgrove:

@diedpretty you can go through tough times, be affected by it and still not require counseling. People handle tough situations differently.

I’m not knocking counseling but the idea that it is a requirement to handle difficult times is insane. It may work for some people but not everyone needs to take that route.

the club would have to at least offer it and it would be up to the player as to what he wants to do. If the club don’t and then something happens to the player then the club would be crucified

@happy_tiger I don’t know Haps, I reckon he will be quite a good player for our side and we may get him cheaper after this whole debacle. Madge saw something in him to initially sign him for 3.

@Roar_Power I was thinking the same thing. He is a young prop who could come on.

@Roar_Power said in Zane Musgrove:

@happy_tiger I don’t know Haps, I reckon he will be quite a good player for our side and we may get him cheaper after this whole debacle. Madge saw something in him to initially sign him for 3.

i hope it wasn’t the same thing he saw in Robert Jennings.

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