WT Player Recruitment & Retention for 2020

@Snake said in WT Player Recruitment & Retention for 2020:

@Cultured_Bogan So to that end the team finally becomes a top4 squad … next season is the clean out of all clean outs . A 70% new squad of what the coach requires to finally cement the team in the top 8 , I must say the coming of 2021 is something to get excited about if done properly!

I’m very keen (and apprehensive,) to see how Madge utilises the cap next year. Thinking about it, he brings a kid on for spot #30 he has $1.6m to spend on four spots for 2020. Does he chase one huge name, chase a couple of decent ones or sign a bunch of kids and front load whomever we have on the books on a big wicket for 2021?

$400K will pick you up a breakout young talent. Problem is picking up someone on that sort of cash is speculative. You could be on a bargain, you could wind up with a lemon or you could get another Matterson who spits the dummy after a proven year.

It looks as thought Madge is looking heavily toward underpinning a quality 17 with talented kids to come on through when the cap squeezes, much the way the Storm has endured years of losing good system players while maintaining their core group.

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@Cultured_Bogan said in WT Player Recruitment & Retention for 2020:

I wonder if other sides have so few players in their top 30 locked down past next year. Just over one third of our playing group has a contract past 2020

https://www.nrl.com/news/2019/11/04/2020-nrl-rosters-official-squads-announced-for-all-teams/

You might find this helpful…Most sides have few players lock down beyond 2020…

Nearly all have 10-15 Roster spots to fill …

Talau, Garner and Twal all updated.

Wouldn’t mind hearing Clark and Momo are being resigned as well.

@Cultured_Bogan said in WT Player Recruitment & Retention for 2020:

Talau, Garner and Twal all updated.

Wouldn’t mind hearing Clark and Momo are being resigned as well.

u want that before or after mitchell and luciano?

@TheDaBoss said in WT Player Recruitment & Retention for 2020:

@Cultured_Bogan said in WT Player Recruitment & Retention for 2020:

Talau, Garner and Twal all updated.

Wouldn’t mind hearing Clark and Momo are being resigned as well.

u want that before or after mitchell and luciano?

Before preferably, Mitchell should be the last major signing we should make after all our retention announcements are made.

What about the eels youngster? The one they won’t release

😠

Yes correct - Utoikamanu is his name. Last i read the eels wont let him come to us until 2021. Need to add him into calculations.

Some great young Eels come over to the Tigers, hopefully we look after them.
Fainga - Fiji Rep
Field - Aus Schoolboy
Taipari- Junior Kiwi, SG Ball winner
and all the others are rep players as well.
Should be a great game when they all face Parra …

@taika68 said in WT Player Recruitment & Retention for 2020:

Some great young Eels come over to the Tigers, hopefully we look after them.
Fainga - Fiji Rep
Field - Aus Schoolboy
Taipari- Junior Kiwi, SG Ball winner
and all the others are rep players as well.
Should be a great game when they all face Parra …

Any of them illegible for CC?

Just noticed a 2020 update on WestsTigers.com
Still 26 players in the Top 30.

Wests Tigers 2020 NRL Squad
Alex Twal
Alex Seyfarth
Benji Marshall
Billy Walters
Chris McQueen
Chris Lawrence
Corey Thompson
David Nofoaluma
Dylan Smith
Elijah Taylor
Jacob Liddle
Josh Aloiai
Josh Reynolds
Luciano Leilua
Luke Brooks
Luke Garner
Matt Eisenhuth
Michael Chee Kam
Moses Mbye
Oliver Clark
Paul Momirovski
Robert Jennings
Russell Packer
Sam McIntyre
Thomas Mikaele
Tommy Talau

Coach: Michael Maguire

Wests Tigers 2020 Development Players
Jake Simpkin
Jock Madden
Kane Bradley
Reece Hoffman
Zac Cini

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@jadtiger said in WT Player Recruitment & Retention for 2020:

@Elderslie_Tiger said in WT Player Recruitment & Retention for 2020:

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/teams/panthers/panthers-overhaul-recruitment-policy-to-avoid-repeating-errors-of-the-past/news-story/3967409345d1ec29b4f00f34b6dad3c1

A SIGN OF THE TIMES OR WHATS INSTORE FOR CLUBS

Sorry i cant read it because its behind a murdoch pay wall and he can get nicked

Gould’s legacy crumbling as Panthers slash $5.6m from footy club grant

Following a crippling season of payouts to players and Phil Gould, Penrith, led by coach Ivan Cleary, have scrapped one of the former club supremo’s most controversial policies in a move that will save millions.

Dean Ritchie, The Daily Telegraph

Subscriber only

December 18, 2019 9:32am

Fpnthers Group has slashed its annual grant to Penrith’s football club by a whopping $5.6m after scrapping former general manager of football Phil Gould’s long-term contract policy.

A crippling one-off season of payouts to players - and Gould himself – will now enable the Panthers Group’s $9m a season allocation to the football club to be reduced to $3.4m for next season.

Penrith moved multiple players on long-term contracts this year - including Dallin Watene-Zelezniak, Reagan Campbell-Gillard, Waqa Blake and James Maloney – plus Gould’s termination – at a hefty cost of $3m

Desperate to abandon an ill-fated policy of having one man control the club’s salary cap, long-term deals and back-ended contracts, Penrith has made dramatic financial changes since Gould resigned in April.

Panthers coach Ivan Cleary has installed a 10-man recruitment, retention and salary cap committee comprising himself, Brian Fletcher, Greg Alexander, Trent Barrett, Cam Ciraldo, Peter Wallace, Dave O’Neill, Matt Cameron, Jim Jones and Group Financial Controller, John White.

The group, which meets twice-monthly during the NRL season, has abandoned the club’s policy strategy of having one man – Gould – as sole salary cap boss.

“In the view of the retention committee, those long-term deals weren’t in the best interests of the club. We have tidied everything up but we have to take a hit in one year,” said Fletcher, Panthers Group chief executive.

“We are trying to reduce long-term and back-ended contracts. We had to make some hard financial decisions going forward.”

With the payouts now settled, and the salary cap committee in place, the Panthers Group don’t feel a need to inject $9m a year into the football club.

The Daily Telegraph can reveal an exclusive break down of the Panthers financial figures this season which included:

  • An amount of $2.8m being given to propagate and develop junior rugby league in the Penrith district.

  • Around $1.5m needed for the upkeep of Panthers Academy and Panthers Stadium.

  • About $800,000 given to medically retired players Sam McKendry and Tim Browne.

  • Approximately $3m spent on coaching and football staff.

  • Despite the huge outlay, the Panthers Group still posted a $23m cash profit for this year.

All payouts had to be finalised in one year – not over a player’s contract term. That meant the payout figure was excessively high for 2019.

“When you’re releasing long-term contracts, the accounting standards make you put the full amount in the year that a player leaves the club,” said Fletcher.

“We have now come up with a different business model in terms of retaining and releasing players. We have made adjustments after making mistakes before, financially.

“The committee has to approve everything and then a recommendation goes to the board for final approval. When Gus resigned, Ivan suggested that a retention committee be formed, a collaborative committee and not just one person.

“The retention committee feels very confident where the club has landed now. We don’t have long-term contracts that aren’t manageable. The committee now feels that we have to be 110 per cent right for a player to sign a long-term deal.”

Penrith now has just one player on a long-term deal – halfback Nathan Cleary.

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@Ponyo said in WT Player Recruitment & Retention for 2020:

@jadtiger said in WT Player Recruitment & Retention for 2020:

@Elderslie_Tiger said in WT Player Recruitment & Retention for 2020:

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/teams/panthers/panthers-overhaul-recruitment-policy-to-avoid-repeating-errors-of-the-past/news-story/3967409345d1ec29b4f00f34b6dad3c1

A SIGN OF THE TIMES OR WHATS INSTORE FOR CLUBS

Sorry i cant read it because its behind a murdoch pay wall and he can get nicked

Gould’s legacy crumbling as Panthers slash $5.6m from footy club grant

Following a crippling season of payouts to players and Phil Gould, Penrith, led by coach Ivan Cleary, have scrapped one of the former club supremo’s most controversial policies in a move that will save millions.

Dean Ritchie, The Daily Telegraph

Subscriber only

December 18, 2019 9:32am

Fpnthers Group has slashed its annual grant to Penrith’s football club by a whopping $5.6m after scrapping former general manager of football Phil Gould’s long-term contract policy.

A crippling one-off season of payouts to players - and Gould himself – will now enable the Panthers Group’s $9m a season allocation to the football club to be reduced to $3.4m for next season.

Penrith moved multiple players on long-term contracts this year - including Dallin Watene-Zelezniak, Reagan Campbell-Gillard, Waqa Blake and James Maloney – plus Gould’s termination – at a hefty cost of $3m

Desperate to abandon an ill-fated policy of having one man control the club’s salary cap, long-term deals and back-ended contracts, Penrith has made dramatic financial changes since Gould resigned in April.

Panthers coach Ivan Cleary has installed a 10-man recruitment, retention and salary cap committee comprising himself, Brian Fletcher, Greg Alexander, Trent Barrett, Cam Ciraldo, Peter Wallace, Dave O’Neill, Matt Cameron, Jim Jones and Group Financial Controller, John White.

The group, which meets twice-monthly during the NRL season, has abandoned the club’s policy strategy of having one man – Gould – as sole salary cap boss.

“In the view of the retention committee, those long-term deals weren’t in the best interests of the club. We have tidied everything up but we have to take a hit in one year,” said Fletcher, Panthers Group chief executive.

“We are trying to reduce long-term and back-ended contracts. We had to make some hard financial decisions going forward.”

With the payouts now settled, and the salary cap committee in place, the Panthers Group don’t feel a need to inject $9m a year into the football club.

The Daily Telegraph can reveal an exclusive break down of the Panthers financial figures this season which included:

  • An amount of $2.8m being given to propagate and develop junior rugby league in the Penrith district.

  • Around $1.5m needed for the upkeep of Panthers Academy and Panthers Stadium.

  • About $800,000 given to medically retired players Sam McKendry and Tim Browne.

  • Approximately $3m spent on coaching and football staff.

  • Despite the huge outlay, the Panthers Group still posted a $23m cash profit for this year.

All payouts had to be finalised in one year – not over a player’s contract term. That meant the payout figure was excessively high for 2019.

“When you’re releasing long-term contracts, the accounting standards make you put the full amount in the year that a player leaves the club,” said Fletcher.

“We have now come up with a different business model in terms of retaining and releasing players. We have made adjustments after making mistakes before, financially.

“The committee has to approve everything and then a recommendation goes to the board for final approval. When Gus resigned, Ivan suggested that a retention committee be formed, a collaborative committee and not just one person.

“The retention committee feels very confident where the club has landed now. We don’t have long-term contracts that aren’t manageable. The committee now feels that we have to be 110 per cent right for a player to sign a long-term deal.”

Penrith now has just one player on a long-term deal – halfback Nathan Cleary.

Thanks for that Ponyo

Some great young Eels come over to the Tigers, hopefully we look after them.
Fainga - Fiji Rep
Field - Aus Schoolboy
Taipari- Junior Kiwi, SG Ball winner
and all the others are rep players as well.
Should be a great game when they all face Parra …

Any of them illegible for CC?

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