Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion

@Elderslie_Tiger said in Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion:

@PabloX said in Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion:

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@Krammy said in Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion:

Did anyone see the interview on Channel Nine? Mitchell said if he had signed with the Tigers, he probably would have regretted it straight away. We have a poor perception with players at the moment, but I feel that the loyalty shown by players who are here at the moment will pay off in the end. The administration should stick to its commitment to be a proud club who only purchase players who genuinely want to be here.

He would have regretted it because he wants to play with his brothers
Tigers could not do anything about that
South’s are going to turn into the indigenous all stars team

Can we turn into the kiwi club

Or Samoan Tongan or part PNG part Fijian

Bring back Robbie, we had Twal and then sign Doueihi we could be the Lebanese club.

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@Newtown said in Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion:

Opinions to NRL players from two unhappy recent ex-Wests tigers together with some South Sydney players who had been coached by Madge may have had a lot to do with West Tigers recent unfair reputation.

Not having a crack at you Newtown but what do all those saying “we can’t attract players because Madge is too tough” suggest?

The day the club replaces a coach because he was “too tough “ on players is the day the club signs up for another decade of poor performance and my last day as a supporter

Souths did just that …
Sacked Maguire for Seibold !

They sacked him after 6 successful years which included a premiership. Form dropped, I could excuse that.

I hate to admit this but I’m related to a current Souths player and I asked him about Madge when he signed for the Tigers. He was full of praise and denied he was too hard. I can tell you the whole sorry saga surrounding his sacking, or rather the rise of Seibold if you’re interested.

I’ve always been intrigued by his departure mate, please PM if you can with the story.

I’ll change the names to protect the innocent…
Once upon a time, not long after a new assistant coach started work at the Storm, another assistant who had been there for a while felt he was a bit on the outer, with the new guy scoring lots of points with the boss. So the old assistant decided to apply for a vacant NRL head coaching job and promptly won a premiership. His mate from the Storm, being a first class opportunist, saw an opportunity and joined the premiership winners, only to immediately start white-anting the head coach. This is where the rumours of the old coach being a hard task master started. The new guy had new ideas and a couple of degrees and could move the club forward with a more modern approach. He charmed the players and gradually turned them against the old coach. The board were also mesmerised and decided the assistant was the future, sacking the coach who had won them a long awaited premiership. A few months into the next season, the opportunist, who by now was beginning to resemble a snake, became aware that another long serving coach at his dream club was on the outer and began concocting a scheme to slither in to replace him, despite him being contracted for another season. The idea of a swap was devised by his management team, however there was a stumbling block. The snake by now was losing the confidence of his own players and the assistant coach, let’s call him DF, was by far more popular with the playing group. Rather than a swap for another coach, the players would prefer to keep DF as their head coach. This put the deal in jeopardy so the snake encouraged DF to take a head coaching job in the ESL to remove any obstacles. The players were filthy once the swap became a done deal, not because they were upset about getting a master coach but they realised they had just been used as just a rung in the ladder for the ultra ambitious snake. The news soon made it north and the result is there for all to see.

Thanks! I heard him talking to media about a concept: forming, storming, norming, performing. He carried on like he was a genius and the media, as ignorant as they are, went along with him. This concept is ridiculously simplistic - it relates to group management through a period of change. It’s change management 101 but he carried in like he’d just split the atom. I immediately thought he was a fake. His last season confirmed it. Your story cements it

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@bbobb said in Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion:

Wow! Just watched the full PC. He looks really unfit but I got the impression still wants fullback. Wayne did look a bit coy when asked about the younger brigade (Doueihi etc) and I think he knows that he might need to release a couple.

Tigers should look to make Doueihi a very attractive offer. Clubs will often let players go on request so as to not stifle their careers - if we play our cards right, we might get someone halfway decent.

I believe Douehi is contracted until end of 2021 so we are unable to approach him until this Nov 1 unless Souths approve.

You’re right he is but wasn’t Esan Marsters in a similar situation?

@Tiger_Steve said in Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion:

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@Newtown said in Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion:

Opinions to NRL players from two unhappy recent ex-Wests tigers together with some South Sydney players who had been coached by Madge may have had a lot to do with West Tigers recent unfair reputation.

Not having a crack at you Newtown but what do all those saying “we can’t attract players because Madge is too tough” suggest?

The day the club replaces a coach because he was “too tough “ on players is the day the club signs up for another decade of poor performance and my last day as a supporter

Souths did just that …
Sacked Maguire for Seibold !

They sacked him after 6 successful years which included a premiership. Form dropped, I could excuse that.

I hate to admit this but I’m related to a current Souths player and I asked him about Madge when he signed for the Tigers. He was full of praise and denied he was too hard. I can tell you the whole sorry saga surrounding his sacking, or rather the rise of Seibold if you’re interested.

I’ve always been intrigued by his departure mate, please PM if you can with the story.

I’ll change the names to protect the innocent…
Once upon a time, not long after a new assistant coach started work at the Storm, another assistant who had been there for a while felt he was a bit on the outer, with the new guy scoring lots of points with the boss. So the old assistant decided to apply for a vacant NRL head coaching job and promptly won a premiership. His mate from the Storm, being a first class opportunist, saw an opportunity and joined the premiership winners, only to immediately start white-anting the head coach. This is where the rumours of the old coach being a hard task master started. The new guy had new ideas and a couple of degrees and could move the club forward with a more modern approach. He charmed the players and gradually turned them against the old coach. The board were also mesmerised and decided the assistant was the future, sacking the coach who had won them a long awaited premiership. A few months into the next season, the opportunist, who by now was beginning to resemble a snake, became aware that another long serving coach at his dream club was on the outer and began concocting a scheme to slither in to replace him, despite him being contracted for another season. The idea of a swap was devised by his management team, however there was a stumbling block. The snake by now was losing the confidence of his own players and the assistant coach, let’s call him DF, was by far more popular with the playing group. Rather than a swap for another coach, the players would prefer to keep DF as their head coach. This put the deal in jeopardy so the snake encouraged DF to take a head coaching job in the ESL to remove any obstacles. The players were filthy once the swap became a done deal, not because they were upset about getting a master coach but they realised they had just been used as just a rung in the ladder for the ultra ambitious snake. The news soon made it north and the result is there for all to see.

Thanks! I heard him talking to media about a concept: forming, storming, norming, performing. He carried on like he was a genius and the media, as ignorant as they are, went along with him. This concept is ridiculously simplistic - it relates to group management through a period of change. It’s change management 101 but he carried in like he’d just split the atom. I immediately thought he was a fake. His last season confirmed it. Your story cements it

Players HATE him.

@tigerballs said in Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion:

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@Glenn5150 said in Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion:

@Newtown said in Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion:

Opinions to NRL players from two unhappy recent ex-Wests tigers together with some South Sydney players who had been coached by Madge may have had a lot to do with West Tigers recent unfair reputation.

Not having a crack at you Newtown but what do all those saying “we can’t attract players because Madge is too tough” suggest?

The day the club replaces a coach because he was “too tough “ on players is the day the club signs up for another decade of poor performance and my last day as a supporter

Souths did just that …
Sacked Maguire for Seibold !

They sacked him after 6 successful years which included a premiership. Form dropped, I could excuse that.

I hate to admit this but I’m related to a current Souths player and I asked him about Madge when he signed for the Tigers. He was full of praise and denied he was too hard. I can tell you the whole sorry saga surrounding his sacking, or rather the rise of Seibold if you’re interested.

I’ve always been intrigued by his departure mate, please PM if you can with the story.

I’ll change the names to protect the innocent…
Once upon a time, not long after a new assistant coach started work at the Storm, another assistant who had been there for a while felt he was a bit on the outer, with the new guy scoring lots of points with the boss. So the old assistant decided to apply for a vacant NRL head coaching job and promptly won a premiership. His mate from the Storm, being a first class opportunist, saw an opportunity and joined the premiership winners, only to immediately start white-anting the head coach. This is where the rumours of the old coach being a hard task master started. The new guy had new ideas and a couple of degrees and could move the club forward with a more modern approach. He charmed the players and gradually turned them against the old coach. The board were also mesmerised and decided the assistant was the future, sacking the coach who had won them a long awaited premiership. A few months into the next season, the opportunist, who by now was beginning to resemble a snake, became aware that another long serving coach at his dream club was on the outer and began concocting a scheme to slither in to replace him, despite him being contracted for another season. The idea of a swap was devised by his management team, however there was a stumbling block. The snake by now was losing the confidence of his own players and the assistant coach, let’s call him DF, was by far more popular with the playing group. Rather than a swap for another coach, the players would prefer to keep DF as their head coach. This put the deal in jeopardy so the snake encouraged DF to take a head coaching job in the ESL to remove any obstacles. The players were filthy once the swap became a done deal, not because they were upset about getting a master coach but they realised they had just been used as just a rung in the ladder for the ultra ambitious snake. The news soon made it north and the result is there for all to see.

Thanks! I heard him talking to media about a concept: forming, storming, norming, performing. He carried on like he was a genius and the media, as ignorant as they are, went along with him. This concept is ridiculously simplistic - it relates to group management through a period of change. It’s change management 101 but he carried in like he’d just split the atom. I immediately thought he was a fake. His last season confirmed it. Your story cements it

Players HATE him.

Yep. Can see why. Remember he threw his players under the bus earlier last season? Grub.

@Elderslie_Tiger said in Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion:

@PabloX said in Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion:

@Cairnstigers said in Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion:

@Krammy said in Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion:

Did anyone see the interview on Channel Nine? Mitchell said if he had signed with the Tigers, he probably would have regretted it straight away. We have a poor perception with players at the moment, but I feel that the loyalty shown by players who are here at the moment will pay off in the end. The administration should stick to its commitment to be a proud club who only purchase players who genuinely want to be here.

He would have regretted it because he wants to play with his brothers
Tigers could not do anything about that
South’s are going to turn into the indigenous all stars team

Can we turn into the kiwi club

Or Samoan Tongan or part PNG part Fijian

Hungarian club?

Tigers dodged a bullet with Latrell.Million bucks gets you a Taumalolo or Smith Or Thurston not a lazy player who gets homesick and misses training to go home .

@innsaneink said in Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion:

This is a massive loss for us and I believe will have a roll on affect re recruitment… People can put any spin on it they like but this is highly embarrassing for WTs

Have to agree Ink, I’m gutted at the way this all transpired. Our club has taken a huge hit. We need a recruitment win and we need it real soon, it I struggle to see where we can get it though.

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@Newtown said in Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion:

Opinions to NRL players from two unhappy recent ex-Wests tigers together with some South Sydney players who had been coached by Madge may have had a lot to do with West Tigers recent unfair reputation.

Not having a crack at you Newtown but what do all those saying “we can’t attract players because Madge is too tough” suggest?

The day the club replaces a coach because he was “too tough “ on players is the day the club signs up for another decade of poor performance and my last day as a supporter

Souths did just that …
Sacked Maguire for Seibold !

They sacked him after 6 successful years which included a premiership. Form dropped, I could excuse that.

I hate to admit this but I’m related to a current Souths player and I asked him about Madge when he signed for the Tigers. He was full of praise and denied he was too hard. I can tell you the whole sorry saga surrounding his sacking, or rather the rise of Seibold if you’re interested.

I’ve always been intrigued by his departure mate, please PM if you can with the story.

I’ll change the names to protect the innocent…
Once upon a time, not long after a new assistant coach started work at the Storm, another assistant who had been there for a while felt he was a bit on the outer, with the new guy scoring lots of points with the boss. So the old assistant decided to apply for a vacant NRL head coaching job and promptly won a premiership. His mate from the Storm, being a first class opportunist, saw an opportunity and joined the premiership winners, only to immediately start white-anting the head coach. This is where the rumours of the old coach being a hard task master started. The new guy had new ideas and a couple of degrees and could move the club forward with a more modern approach. He charmed the players and gradually turned them against the old coach. The board were also mesmerised and decided the assistant was the future, sacking the coach who had won them a long awaited premiership. A few months into the next season, the opportunist, who by now was beginning to resemble a snake, became aware that another long serving coach at his dream club was on the outer and began concocting a scheme to slither in to replace him, despite him being contracted for another season. The idea of a swap was devised by his management team, however there was a stumbling block. The snake by now was losing the confidence of his own players and the assistant coach, let’s call him DF, was by far more popular with the playing group. Rather than a swap for another coach, the players would prefer to keep DF as their head coach. This put the deal in jeopardy so the snake encouraged DF to take a head coaching job in the ESL to remove any obstacles. The players were filthy once the swap became a done deal, not because they were upset about getting a master coach but they realised they had just been used as just a rung in the ladder for the ultra ambitious snake. The news soon made it north and the result is there for all to see.

Damn…Voldemort does come across as the kind of guy who would do that. The players at Souths loved Madge. It was disappointing when he got the boot. This story makes too much sense not to be true.

@MtWarrigalTiger said in Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion:

Tigers dodged a bullet with Latrell.Million bucks gets you a Taumalolo or Smith Or Thurston not a lazy player who gets homesick and misses training to go home .

What’s a million going to get us thow slim pickings atm.

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@Glenn5150 said in Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion:

@Newtown said in Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion:

Opinions to NRL players from two unhappy recent ex-Wests tigers together with some South Sydney players who had been coached by Madge may have had a lot to do with West Tigers recent unfair reputation.

Not having a crack at you Newtown but what do all those saying “we can’t attract players because Madge is too tough” suggest?

The day the club replaces a coach because he was “too tough “ on players is the day the club signs up for another decade of poor performance and my last day as a supporter

Souths did just that …
Sacked Maguire for Seibold !

They sacked him after 6 successful years which included a premiership. Form dropped, I could excuse that.

I hate to admit this but I’m related to a current Souths player and I asked him about Madge when he signed for the Tigers. He was full of praise and denied he was too hard. I can tell you the whole sorry saga surrounding his sacking, or rather the rise of Seibold if you’re interested.

I’ve always been intrigued by his departure mate, please PM if you can with the story.

I’ll change the names to protect the innocent…
Once upon a time, not long after a new assistant coach started work at the Storm, another assistant who had been there for a while felt he was a bit on the outer, with the new guy scoring lots of points with the boss. So the old assistant decided to apply for a vacant NRL head coaching job and promptly won a premiership. His mate from the Storm, being a first class opportunist, saw an opportunity and joined the premiership winners, only to immediately start white-anting the head coach. This is where the rumours of the old coach being a hard task master started. The new guy had new ideas and a couple of degrees and could move the club forward with a more modern approach. He charmed the players and gradually turned them against the old coach. The board were also mesmerised and decided the assistant was the future, sacking the coach who had won them a long awaited premiership. A few months into the next season, the opportunist, who by now was beginning to resemble a snake, became aware that another long serving coach at his dream club was on the outer and began concocting a scheme to slither in to replace him, despite him being contracted for another season. The idea of a swap was devised by his management team, however there was a stumbling block. The snake by now was losing the confidence of his own players and the assistant coach, let’s call him DF, was by far more popular with the playing group. Rather than a swap for another coach, the players would prefer to keep DF as their head coach. This put the deal in jeopardy so the snake encouraged DF to take a head coaching job in the ESL to remove any obstacles. The players were filthy once the swap became a done deal, not because they were upset about getting a master coach but they realised they had just been used as just a rung in the ladder for the ultra ambitious snake. The news soon made it north and the result is there for all to see.

Damn…Voldemort does come across as the kind of guy who would do that. The players at Souths loved Madge. It was disappointing when he got the boot. This story makes too much sense not to be true.

I guarantee it is. If I went into the finer details it gets even worse.

A number of sad-sack self-sorry members on here today.

Don’t really care if Latrell didn’t sign on and nothing I can do about it anyway if I did care.

I don’t think it reflects badly on Tigers at all, just that this player valued other things apart from just salary, things that it appears Tigers couldn’t supply. Well actually, not appears, because it came from Latrell’s mouth today, even if lip service, about indigenous history, his Dad’s club, Bennett etc.

As far as I am aware, only two blokes have ever been offered a million bucks by WT - Latrell and Tedesco. They are not typical situations and the outcome doesn’t necessarily reflect your typical player or the club as a whole. Two isn’t a trend.

@jirskyr said in Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion:

A number of sad-sack self-sorry members on here today.

Don’t really care if Latrell didn’t sign on and nothing I can do about it anyway if I did care.

I don’t think it reflects badly on Tigers at all, just that this player valued other things apart from just salary, things that it appears Tigers couldn’t supply. Well actually, not appears, because it came from Latrell’s mouth today, even if lip service, about indigenous history, his Dad’s club, Bennett etc.

As far as I am aware, only two blokes have ever been offered a million bucks by WT - Latrell and Tedesco. They are not typical situations and the outcome doesn’t necessarily reflect your typical player or the club as a whole. Two isn’t a trend.

So what is the trend? You are an analyst. What is the most dominant WestsTigers trend. What does the data say? Can you provide the most relevant statistic in relation to WestsTigers performance. I’ll tell you - we miss opportunity every time. Now this is a qualitative response based on observation. I have no inclination to provide a quantitative summary.
So I’m a sad sack- no doubt. Based on the trend of losing every clutch moment. I’d love to be a happy sack!!

@innsaneink said in Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion:

This is a massive loss for us and I believe will have a roll on affect re recruitment… People can put any spin on it they like but this is highly embarrassing for WTs

If by roll-on effect you mean Tigers still have $1M to spend and Souths don’t, then sure. Don’t know what other roll-on you mean.

Gareth Widdop turned us down 2 years ago, is that embarrassing too?

Thing about Latrell is his Roosters money is being absorbed by the massive Roosters offer, and Souths have now spent all their Burgess money.

It leaves Tigers still as the only club at this time with big bucks to spend, until other clubs can clear rosters into 2021 and 2022. The Latrell situation shows you only need to wait for some big unexpected opportunities to arise. You never know which player might become available for those funds.

I said it just a minute ago, no idea why you would see this as embarrassing. You offered a guy money to join, he says no. I am pretty sure it happens very very often in foot.

Or to put it another way - we went down to the wire in a fight with another club for a star player signature. Nothing wrong with that. Last time we had a million spare in the cap, Cleary signed a bunch of players that didn’t really work out, and now 3 years later we are still paying these guys out to barely contribute to first grade. That is embarrassing.

@Tiger_Steve said in Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion:

So what is the trend? You are an analyst.

The trend is we are 0 from 1 in attempting to sign Latrell Mitchells.

However knowing as you do that you need at least 3 for a trend, it’s just a single datapoint, not a trend.

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