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More people look on this forum than post in this forum, so if any NRL player-managers (or someone who knows a player-manager) sees this, I dare you, justify your profession.
It’s abhorrent that such a profession exists in the first place. Back in the day, players HAD THEIR OWN JOBS, trained on weeknights. And then the NSWRL/ARL and News Corp wrecked everything.
Not that I should care, I said that if Jason Taylor was the Wests Tigers coach in 2017 I would no longer be a Wests Tigers supporter and I meant it, but the whole NRL set-up as it happily rolls along, and the Wests Tigers being unable to work their way out of the hole they are in, really pisses me off. I currently have the same feeling about player-managers as I do about property developers (thanks Benny).
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Biggest stain on the game. Human leaches, that are totally focused on greed
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I also have absolutely no faith in the process. When a player has a run of poor form now, I look for correlations and a common denominator.
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Im not sure how you regulate this but the biggest problem (among many) is the concentration of too many players and coaches into too few hands (managers) leading to manipulation and conflicts of interest for many parties.
I understand that the average footballer (and I know I am making assumptions and do not wish to belittle anyone) may not be able to successfully handle salary negotiations and administer his earnings into long term financial security without help - but there are many professionals out there who can do that (accountants, solicitors, financial advisors) as I do with my own business, rather than player managers who in some cases only have the fact that they were ex players as a selling point. IMHO the player manager as an entity isn’t needed and would remove the whole behind the scenes player/coach manipulation out of the equation.
Its a difficult one but one in which the NRL really needs to continue to clean up and set new guidelines -
Perhaps technology will render them redundant in future. Eg a platform where recruiters place their best bids online for the player to choose from.
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Don’t blame the agents, blame the system that allows them to operate in this way. They don’t care about anything but getting the maximum money they can for the players they represent, which in turn gets them more money. They’re trying to make as much as they can from what they do, the same as most people tbh.
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@avocadoontoast said in Hey Player Managers, Defend Yourselves, I Dare You:
Don’t blame the agents, blame the system that allows them to operate in this way. They don’t care about anything but getting the maximum money they can for the players they represent, which in turn gets them more money. They’re trying to make as much as they can from what they do, the same as most people tbh.
Exactly!
This is a billion dollar organisation. The system shouldn’t have loopholes that can be manipulated. NRL is a great comp but the management is amateur at best!
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Still believe there should be a change to the accredited manager model.
Agent licences issued year on year should be determined by the size of the player pool available for resigning. Agents get a flat fee to act on behalf of players. Player managers will have their clients sign on for sensible money rather than fleecing clubs to maximise their commission.
It will never happen, but that’s how I’d want it to play out. Without player managers earning commission they won’t be coaxing players to agitate or walk out of clubs. Player value should stabilise.
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@Cultured_Bogan said in Hey Player Managers, Defend Yourselves, I Dare You:
Still believe there should be a change to the accredited manager model.
Agent licences issued year on year should be determined by the size of the player pool available for resigning. Agents get a flat fee to act on behalf of players. Player managers will have their clients sign on for sensible money rather than fleecing clubs to maximise their commission.
It will never happen, but that’s how I’d want it to play out. Without player managers earning commission they won’t be coaxing players to agitate or walk out of clubs. Player value should stabilise.
NRL could make it happen. That all sounds very sensible to me. A flat fee and add in regulations about players being penalised for leaving contracts early if there isn’t consent from the club.
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What’s with the Jason Taylor bit?
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Clearly you didn’t mean the Taylor thing, because he did coach us in 2017.
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@radiowave82 said in Hey Player Managers, Defend Yourselves, I Dare You:
More people look on this forum than post in this forum, so if any NRL player-managers (or someone who knows a player-manager) sees this, I dare you, justify your profession.
It’s abhorrent that such a profession exists in the first place. Back in the day, players HAD THEIR OWN JOBS, trained on weeknights. And then the NSWRL/ARL and News Corp wrecked everything.
Not that I should care, I said that if Jason Taylor was the Wests Tigers coach in 2017 I would no longer be a Wests Tigers supporter and I meant it, but the whole NRL set-up as it happily rolls along, and the Wests Tigers being unable to work their way out of the hole they are in, really pisses me off. I currently have the same feeling about player-managers as I do about property developers (thanks Benny).
To put it simply, player managers wouldn’t exist if they didn’t get better pay deals for their clients.
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It’s not just football though . The 10% is for everything . Like sponsorships with Nike , or an advertisement with some toothpaste company . Or development and investment opportunities . The reason they sign with these guys , has as much to do with maximising their portfolios as it does to how much money they earn throwing a ball around. I’m not defending them , as it leads to leach like behaviour , and ruthless, amoral business practices , but that’s why they’re used . And why most of the top line players are with 1 of 5 agents . Isaac Moses , Tyran Smith for the islanders , Sam Ayoub , The Orr brothers etc.
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They also do next to nothing to help the players out. Poor investment advice, let them waste their money and as soon as there is injury of the player does not live up to their expectations, cut them loose and move on to the next 14 year old.
Basically they are the modern day slave-masters.
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@Harvey said in Hey Player Managers, Defend Yourselves, I Dare You:
They also do next to nothing to help the players out. Poor investment advice, let them waste their money and as soon as there is injury of the player does not live up to their expectations, cut them loose and move on to the next 14 year old.
Basically they are the modern day slave-masters.
Are you saying, in many cases the player reports to the agent? The player works for the agent?
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