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    • mike
      mike last edited by Spartan117

      The news media, via a Federal Government Law, want to charge for providing a link to a news site and sending traffic to the news site that benefits the news site. Having to pay for providing a link to a site that only benefits the site linked to, ridiculous. The Federal Government is off their rocker. Basically the precedent would be set that any link to any site would be changeable from the site being visited. Their goes the free and open Internet as we know it today.

      This will have ramifications beyond Google and Facebook. As an ultimate expression, not yet established, is that if a forum member posts a link to a news site and its article, or posts the news article itself then the news site can charge the forum for that link or the item. Nothing in the law will specify how much the news media site can charge.

      I hope Facebook and Google fight this with everything they have.

      As of this morning Thursday 18/02/2021 Facebook is removing all news content from the Australian Facebook platform. Good.

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        Cultured_Bogan @mike last edited by

        @mike said in The proposed News Meida Laws:

        The news media, via a Federal Government Law, want to charge for providing a link to a news site and sending traffic to the news site that benefits the news site. Having to pay for providing a link to a site that only benefits the site linked to, ridiculous. The Federal Government is off their rocker. Basically the precedent would be set that any link to any site would be changeable from the site being visited. Their goes the free and open Internet as we know it today.

        This will have ramifications beyond Google and Facebook. As an ultimate expression, not yet established, is that if a forum member posts a link to a news site and its article, or posts the news article itself then the news site can charge the forum for that link or the item. Nothing in the law will specify how much the news media site can charge.

        I hope Facebook and Google fight this with everything they have.

        As of this morning Thursday 18/02/2021 Facebook is removing all news content from the Australian Facebook platform. Good.

        Morrison has cut his nose off to spite his face. He’s giving a free kick to independent news outlets like Jordan Shanks and Michael West who are either ALP leaning or at the very least happy to expose the shortcomings and tomfoolery of the government.

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          jadtiger last edited by

          No suprises, Scamo once again showing his lack of intelligence and living in the past.

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            Papacito last edited by

            It’s a blatant attempt to give their mates at News Ltd (Uncle Rupert) and Nine/Fairfax (Peter Costello) some much needed revenue.

            Together they own nearly 80% of media in Australia and have massive influence over politics.

            Both have taken massive revenue hits from Netflix, online classifieds. The NBN rollout sabotage was one way the Government tried to buy them time.

            The political spin has been “Google/Facebook won’t bully us”. A lot of smart people have swallowed it hook line and sinker.

            If they were true to their neoliberal/market driven philosophy, they’d let it go.

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              mike @Papacito last edited by mike

              @papacito said in The proposed News Meida Laws:

              It’s a blatant attempt to give their mates at News Ltd (Uncle Rupert) and Nine/Fairfax (Peter Costello) some much needed revenue.

              Together they own nearly 80% of media in Australia and have massive influence over politics.

              Both have taken massive revenue hits from Netflix, online classifieds. The NBN rollout sabotage was one way the Government tried to buy them time.

              The political spin has been “Google/Facebook won’t bully us”. A lot of smart people have swallowed it hook line and sinker.

              If they were true to their neoliberal/market driven philosophy, they’d let it go.

              Yeah, except the revenue hit is not only from Netflix, Facebook or Google. The hit has been the loss of classified ads to sites, like eBay, Gumtree and carsales.com etc, they are the ones that really hurt.

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                Papacito @mike last edited by

                @mike said in The proposed News Meida Laws:

                @papacito said in The proposed News Meida Laws:

                It’s a blatant attempt to give their mates at News Ltd (Uncle Rupert) and Nine/Fairfax (Peter Costello) some much needed revenue.

                Together they own nearly 80% of media in Australia and have massive influence over politics.

                Both have taken massive revenue hits from Netflix, online classifieds. The NBN rollout sabotage was one way the Government tried to buy them time.

                The political spin has been “Google/Facebook won’t bully us”. A lot of smart people have swallowed it hook line and sinker.

                If they were true to their neoliberal/market driven philosophy, they’d let it go.

                Yeah, except the revenue hit is not only from Netflix, Facebook or Google. The hit has been the loss of classifies to sites, like eBay, Gumtree and carsales.com etc, they are the ones that really hurt.

                Correct, classifieds was the backbone of their business for years.

                They’re extremely vulnerable if anyone comes along with an alternative to realestate or Domain.

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                  formerguest last edited by formerguest

                  Regulation is one of the most important acts of governments and I think that these huge international corporations that have so much control over what we see, need to be much more accountable for both their actions and content.

                  That said, at the heart of this is a government acting on behalf of a group that keeps them in power and a compliant media will keep them there.

                  Edit; The priority for our government should be taxation on the revenues generated on our shores, whether it be Facebook, Google or Murdoch and other media, if they don’t want to pay, then good riddance no matter the platform.

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                    Papacito @formerguest last edited by

                    @formerguest said in The proposed News Meida Laws:

                    Regulation is one of the most important acts of governments and I think that these huge international corporations that have so much control over what we see, need to be much more accountable for both their actions and content.

                    That said, at the heart of this is a government acting on behalf of a group that keeps them in power and a compliant media will keep them there.

                    Remember, this is the same government that set fire to long-standing media ownership regulation in 2017 and effectively allowed a duopoly in mass media.

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                      GNR4LIFE last edited by

                      I think this is great. Nothing worse than scrolling Facebook, and getting flooded with hundreds of self inflated opinions and arguments in comment sections.

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                        formerguest @Papacito last edited by

                        @papacito said in The proposed News Meida Laws:

                        @formerguest said in The proposed News Meida Laws:

                        Regulation is one of the most important acts of governments and I think that these huge international corporations that have so much control over what we see, need to be much more accountable for both their actions and content.

                        That said, at the heart of this is a government acting on behalf of a group that keeps them in power and a compliant media will keep them there.

                        Remember, this is the same government that set fire to long-standing media ownership regulation in 2017 and effectively allowed a duopoly in mass media.

                        Oh yeah, and don’t I know it, as their marriage acts out a dual protection racket.

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                        • mike
                          mike @formerguest last edited by

                          @formerguest said in The proposed News Meida Laws:

                          Regulation is one of the most important acts of governments and I think that these huge international corporations that have so much control over what we see, need to be much more accountable for both their actions and content.

                          That said, at the heart of this is a government acting on behalf of a group that keeps them in power and a compliant media will keep them there.

                          Edit; The priority for our government should be taxation on the revenues generated on our shores, whether it be Facebook, Google or Murdoch and other media, if they don’t want to pay, then good riddance no matter the platform.

                          Tax is an entirely different story. These large corporations should absolutely be made to pay their fare share of tax. They should not be able to offset Australian revenue with overseas holdings etc.

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                            tigerbalm @GNR4LIFE last edited by

                            @gnr4life said in The proposed News Meida Laws:

                            I think this is great. Nothing worse than scrolling Facebook, and getting flooded with hundreds of self inflated opinions and arguments in comment sections.

                            Irony.

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                              GNR4LIFE @tigerbalm last edited by

                              @tigerbalm said in The proposed News Meida Laws:

                              @gnr4life said in The proposed News Meida Laws:

                              I think this is great. Nothing worse than scrolling Facebook, and getting flooded with hundreds of self inflated opinions and arguments in comment sections.

                              Irony.

                              This is a forum. Very different

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                                Geo ForumSupporter last edited by

                                yesssssss…no more click bait subscription articles from the Telecrap on facebook…it’s a glorious day…

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                                  tigerbalm @GNR4LIFE last edited by

                                  @gnr4life said in The proposed News Meida Laws:

                                  I think this is great. Nothing worse than scrolling Facebook, and getting flooded with hundreds of self inflated opinions and arguments in comment sections.

                                  Just messing with ya. all good.

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