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      redemption Banned last edited by

      While Hopoate has not been charged in relation to this individual - this is a terrible tragedy for a family and yet another black-eye for rugby league in the media courtesy of John!! I cannot say anything more for legal reasons!

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      From today’s Telegraph:

      THE FAMILY of a man bashed during a row with bouncers - including former rugby league star John Hopoate - in Kings Cross made the heartbreaking decision last night to turn off his life support.

      Wilson Duque’s parents made the emotional journey from Colombia to comfort his wife Raquel and visit their son’s bedside in St Vincent’s Hospital where he has been fighting for life since the alleged attack on December 18.

      Hopoate, 36, will face court next week charged with affray and assaulting Wilson’s younger brother Wilmer, 27, after allegedly refusing him entry to John Ibrahim’s Trademark Hotel and chasing him along Darlinghurst Rd.

      Wilson, 33, a house painter, who had celebrated his fifth wedding anniversary with Raquel and their four-month-old son Dylan the night before the tragedy, suffered brain damage but no one has been charged with his assault.

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        AndTheKungFoSing last edited by

        What a grub… he chased him down? wtf

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          Snowy last edited by

          Just proves what a tool he is. I feel for the family, I hope John gets the book thrown at him!

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            Yossarian last edited by

            He chased his brother not the man who died. Hopoate may have a case to answer but before all the facts are at hand I’d be reluctant to make any comment on his actions.

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              Geo ForumSupporter last edited by

              I ask everyone to act cautiously in what they say on this……

              When death is involved the court process must be adhered too…

              Cheers

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                Fraze23 last edited by

                That is a real tragedy. My thoughts and prayers go out to the family.

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                  LukeH last edited by

                  The thing that bothers me about this tragedy is the picture the day after of Hopoate smiling smugly as he was released from the cells. And to read in the paper that his title is “responsible service of alcohol officer”……hmmmmm

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                    AndTheKungFoSing last edited by

                    @Yossarian:

                    He chased his brother not the man who died. Hopoate may have a case to answer but before all the facts are at hand I’d be reluctant to make any comment on his actions.

                    I know that… the point I am making is that he chased someone. He is there to secure the property he is paid to secure… not chase someone who has left or in the process of leaving! That is just hot-headed and agro!

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                      redemption Banned last edited by

                      @LukeH:

                      The thing that bothers me about this tragedy is the picture the day after of Hopoate smiling smugly as he was released from the cells. And to read in the paper that his title is “responsible service of alcohol officer”……hmmmmm

                      There are questions (previously raised in the media) over whether Hoppa holds the mandated qualifications/licenses to have been employed in a RSOA/Security capacity!

                      These issues will come out in court…

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                        king_sirro last edited by

                        @Kaiser:

                        @Yossarian:

                        He chased his brother not the man who died. Hopoate may have a case to answer but before all the facts are at hand I’d be reluctant to make any comment on his actions.

                        I know that… the point I am making is that he chased someone. He is there to secure the property he is paid to secure… not chase someone who has left or in the process of leaving! That is just hot-headed and agro!

                        Sometimes papers can dress things up a little to glorify things. When they say “chase”, they may mean he approached the borther in support of his fellow bouncer, but “chase” sounds better. Now im not saying thats the case here, he may have chased him down the street for all i know, and if he has, i hope he goes down big for it, but maybe its a case of the journo trying to glorify the story a little. We dont know yet.

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                          redemption Banned last edited by

                          @king sirro:

                          @Kaiser:

                          @Yossarian:

                          He chased his brother not the man who died. Hopoate may have a case to answer but before all the facts are at hand I’d be reluctant to make any comment on his actions.

                          I know that… the point I am making is that he chased someone. He is there to secure the property he is paid to secure… not chase someone who has left or in the process of leaving! That is just hot-headed and agro!

                          Sometimes papers can dress things up a little to glorify things. When they say “chase”, they may mean he approached the borther in support of his fellow bouncer, but “chase” sounds better. Now im not saying thats the case here, he may have chased him down the street for all i know, and if he has, i hope he goes down big for it, but maybe its a case of the journo trying to glorify the story a little. We dont know yet.

                          KS - Under the current charge against Hopoate - it is the police who have alleged that he & fellow bouncers “chased” the party from the Trademark to where the assault(s) occurred (at Darlingurst Road 50 metres away)!

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                          This is from ABC News on-line from December 19:

                          Former rugby league player John Hopoate has been charged with assaulting a man while working as a bouncer in Sydney.

                          Hopoate, 36, was working outside the Trademark Hotel on Bayswater Road in Kings Cross when he refused entry to three men around 11:00pm on Saturday.

                          Police say one the men allegedly threatened security staff and bouncers chased the men along Bayswater Road to Darlinghurst Road where a fight broke out.

                          Hopoate has been charged with assaulting a 27-year-old man.

                          A 33-year-old male suffered serious head injuries and was taken to St Vincent’s Hospital where he underwent surgery and remains in a serious condition.

                          No one has been charged with his assault.

                          Hopoate was arrested at 3.05am Sunday morning and taken to Kings Cross Police Station and questioned.

                          He was later charged with assault occasioning actual bodily harm, and affray and granted conditional bail to appear in Downing Centre Local Court on January, 11 2011.

                          Police say other nightclub staff were assisting with inquiries and further charges were expected to be laid.

                          Hopoate retired from rugby league in 2005 after his club Manly terminated his contract after a string of controversies.

                          He then took up boxing but his career has been largely unsuccessful.

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                            king_sirro last edited by

                            I knew i didnt feel right trying to paint i good light on it for Hoppa. lol…… Nothing worse than bouncers who think they have a right to belt people, why cant they understand there job is to calm situations, not make them worse

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                              stryker Banned last edited by

                              Did anyone catch the CCTV footage last night on the news?

                              It painted a very different picture of the “victims” in this fracar. It showed them to seem quite intoxicated, giving grief to passing patrons, threatening the staff with chairs and a paint scraper - effectively a knife, and being refused entry for legitamate reasons.

                              It obviously didnt show what happened afterwards but there are eyewitness reports that the deceased man suffered his injuries in a fall trying to run away from a fight his mates well and truly started.

                              It’s in stark contrast to how this story was originally reported.

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                                Fraze23 last edited by

                                @stryker:

                                Did anyone catch the CCTV footage last night on the news?

                                It painted a very different picture of the “victims” in this fracar. It showed them to seem quite intoxicated, giving grief to passing patrons, threatening the staff with chairs and a paint scraper - effectively a knife, and being refused entry for legitamate reasons.

                                It obviously didnt show what happened afterwards but there are eyewitness reports that the deceased man suffered his injuries in a fall trying to run away from a fight his mates well and truly started.

                                It’s in stark contrast to how this story was originally reported.

                                There is always 2 sides to every story. The media are good at picking sides.

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                                  Tiger_Watto last edited by

                                  @stryker:

                                  Did anyone catch the CCTV footage last night on the news?

                                  It painted a very different picture of the “victims” in this fracar. It showed them to seem quite intoxicated, giving grief to passing patrons, threatening the staff with chairs and a paint scraper - effectively a knife, and being refused entry for legitamate reasons.

                                  It obviously didnt show what happened afterwards but there are eyewitness reports that the deceased man suffered his injuries in a fall trying to run away from a fight his mates well and truly started.

                                  It’s in stark contrast to how this story was originally reported.

                                  Stryker, 95% of the time it is this way…. Unfortunately, the media always jump on the “victims story” first. I’m sure you understand that If you poke a stick at the mongrel dog, sooner than later it will bite!

                                  But… there is still that 5% element of Crowd Controllers who go over the top, so until we know both stories, it will be difficult for anyone other than the parties involved to really know what went on… (same as the Dragons Leagues Club incident)

                                  Its a shame this has resulted in such an ugly mess!!!

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