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@frullens said in JAC:

Re: JAC
Trent Barrett on Triple M today said it was a complicated one and didn’t think it wo uuld be resolved anytime soon.
Didn’t sound that confident.
Not sure how it’s complicated when he can sign on for 2022 next week.
Surely things fall into place after that.

Its complicated because his 1st preference is Souths and whether they can find room for him.

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@frullens said in JAC:

Enjoyed the convo but this page has nothing about JAC.

Because there isn’t anything about JAC to talk about.

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@twentyforty said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

Does anyone else think JAC signed already?

I would be surprised.

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@Fade-To-Black said in NRL bans the Australian anthem from SoO series:

@cochise said in NRL bans the Australian anthem from SoO series:

@Fade-To-Black said in NRL bans the Australian anthem from SoO series:

@Lauren said in NRL bans the Australian anthem from SoO series:

@Fade-To-Black said in NRL bans the Australian anthem from SoO series:

@Lauren said in NRL bans the Australian anthem from SoO series:

@TheKhan said in NRL bans the Australian anthem from SoO series:

I don’t understand the argument about the Australian Anthem being offensive to indigenous players. The argument is redundant once a player accepts a place on the team, Its State of Origin. A competition exclusively between 2 Australian states. So we have the indigenous welcome to country ceremony ( I believe) and then its OK to wear the jersey of an Australian State and accept Australian currency as payment but once the nations anthem is played its suddenly rage inducing and emotionally over whelming to be reminded that the continent was colonized and then the nation of Australia was formed 200 + yrs ago. im not writing this with contempt or trying to be dismissive im trying to understand the problem

I feel like most are failing to see some of the message that the players have been attempting to get across, and that it’s rarely been touched upon due to the outrage.

Yes the anthem being non-inclusive of Indigenous culture and history is often brought up, but other than a couple of articles I’ve never seen any dialogue about the other issues the players wish to bring attention to - particularly Indigenous Youth incarceration and suicide - and can’t believe people make a bigger deal because they don’t want to sing it.
Irregardless of any personal opinions of them, the players are pillars of their community - and perceived highly as role models for many children - and if they wish to use this platform to bring vital awareness to the outlined circumstances, why does their Indigenous heritage or the causes close to them become invalid due to them receiving payments?

People are incarcerated because they break the law. Regardless of colour or race.
Don’t break the law and you’ll have nothing to worry about IMO.

A 10 year old boy walking home on sundown because he stayed later than he was supposed to - just to play some footy with friends or relatives - is not breaking the law. You’d actually be surprised that this is the reality for a lot of Aboriginal kids from FNQ and many remote Aboriginal communities.
And please don’t even try to bring parenting or any other thing into it, because no one deserves that.
So if you think that’s acceptable shame on you.

That’s all pretty hypothetical more so than fact-based.
Again, people are usually incarcerated for breaking the law. Shame on me for having that belief.

Why are indigenous indigenous incarceration rates higher than the general population?

Probably due to the fact many of them don’t respect nor abide by “white fella law” so they do not think twice about breaking it. That would account for a big percentage IMO.

I honestly don’t know what we should do but its obvious that the current system is not working for too big a percentage of the indigenous population.

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@twentyforty said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@hsvjones said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@Enmore_Tiger said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

What’s happening with the re-signing of Blore? Isn’t he a free agent 1 November?

I believe we could be waiting for another team to sign him for 2022 and we then release him for a future star that is playing under 12’s. 🤦‍♂️

On a serious note - I find it strange that we have not announced any resigning yet like every other club. Waiting will most likely drive there price up.

We like to go to the table as underdogs. It makes our opponents feel comfortable.
I’m thinking a lot will happen when Pascoe and Madge return from holidays.

Pascoe is not on holiday, Madge is but has been around the club.

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@Fade-To-Black said in NRL bans the Australian anthem from SoO series:

@Lauren said in NRL bans the Australian anthem from SoO series:

@Fade-To-Black said in NRL bans the Australian anthem from SoO series:

@Lauren said in NRL bans the Australian anthem from SoO series:

@TheKhan said in NRL bans the Australian anthem from SoO series:

I don’t understand the argument about the Australian Anthem being offensive to indigenous players. The argument is redundant once a player accepts a place on the team, Its State of Origin. A competition exclusively between 2 Australian states. So we have the indigenous welcome to country ceremony ( I believe) and then its OK to wear the jersey of an Australian State and accept Australian currency as payment but once the nations anthem is played its suddenly rage inducing and emotionally over whelming to be reminded that the continent was colonized and then the nation of Australia was formed 200 + yrs ago. im not writing this with contempt or trying to be dismissive im trying to understand the problem

I feel like most are failing to see some of the message that the players have been attempting to get across, and that it’s rarely been touched upon due to the outrage.

Yes the anthem being non-inclusive of Indigenous culture and history is often brought up, but other than a couple of articles I’ve never seen any dialogue about the other issues the players wish to bring attention to - particularly Indigenous Youth incarceration and suicide - and can’t believe people make a bigger deal because they don’t want to sing it.
Irregardless of any personal opinions of them, the players are pillars of their community - and perceived highly as role models for many children - and if they wish to use this platform to bring vital awareness to the outlined circumstances, why does their Indigenous heritage or the causes close to them become invalid due to them receiving payments?

People are incarcerated because they break the law. Regardless of colour or race.
Don’t break the law and you’ll have nothing to worry about IMO.

A 10 year old boy walking home on sundown because he stayed later than he was supposed to - just to play some footy with friends or relatives - is not breaking the law. You’d actually be surprised that this is the reality for a lot of Aboriginal kids from FNQ and many remote Aboriginal communities.
And please don’t even try to bring parenting or any other thing into it, because no one deserves that.
So if you think that’s acceptable shame on you.

That’s all pretty hypothetical more so than fact-based.
Again, people are usually incarcerated for breaking the law. Shame on me for having that belief.

Why are indigenous indigenous incarceration rates higher than the general population?

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@Fade-To-Black said in November 1 is the day:

Not expecting a lot to happen, our club is perpetually behind the 8-ball with almost everything.
Perhaps we will snag a hobbled Blake Green or Keiran Foran in a quadruple plaster-cast as a blockbuster signing. Expectations are understandably pretty low these days.

Agreed, I think it will be similar to past years where we pick up players unwanted by other clubs.

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@formerguest said in NRL bans the Australian anthem from SoO series:

@cochise said in NRL bans the Australian anthem from SoO series:

@Lauren said in NRL bans the Australian anthem from SoO series:

@TheKhan said in NRL bans the Australian anthem from SoO series:

I don’t understand the argument about the Australian Anthem being offensive to indigenous players. The argument is redundant once a player accepts a place on the team, Its State of Origin. A competition exclusively between 2 Australian states. So we have the indigenous welcome to country ceremony ( I believe) and then its OK to wear the jersey of an Australian State and accept Australian currency as payment but once the nations anthem is played its suddenly rage inducing and emotionally over whelming to be reminded that the continent was colonized and then the nation of Australia was formed 200 + yrs ago. im not writing this with contempt or trying to be dismissive im trying to understand the problem

I feel like most are failing to see some of the message that the players have been attempting to get across, and that it’s rarely been touched upon due to the outrage.

Yes the anthem being non-inclusive of Indigenous culture and history is often brought up, but other than a couple of articles I’ve never seen any dialogue about the other issues the players wish to bring attention to - particularly Indigenous Youth incarceration and suicide - and can’t believe people make a bigger deal because they don’t want to sing it.
Irregardless of any personal opinions of them, the players are pillars of their community - and perceived highly as role models for many children - and if they wish to use this platform to bring vital awareness to the outlined circumstances, why does their Indigenous heritage or the causes close to them become invalid due to them receiving payments?

Very well said Lauren, in fact I would be more disappointed if they didn’t use their position to bring attention to those issues. I do feel that they need to do a better job of making clear their reasons for not wanting to sing the Anthem.

Or it could be a case of others needing to do a “better job” of being open to listening and considering their reasons. Thing is it is often those that like me were born prior to aboriginal Australians being given the right to vote, that continue to attack them for their feelings on just about any issue.

I do agree mate and completely respect their choice not to sing, though when you see some of the comments about them not singing it appears their message is not getting through. So being very clear about the reasons behind their actions at every opportunity is crucial if you want to elicit a true dialogue leading to change.

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@LeichhardtTiger said in JAC:

@cochise said in JAC:

I am a red head

Keefie had heart and soul!