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I was involved in a conversation today regarding relocation and stated that if the team was relocated that it would probably be the end for me as an NRL supporter as I would lose my connection/ attachment to the club. The person I was speaking with rightly raised what is my connection to the club as I never lived in any of the catchment areas that make up this club. It got me thinking about why I am connected to this club in such a strong way and I would be interested in hearing about other people’s connections as well.

For me it started when I was 4 years old, I grew up in country NSW and my father played for the local team, the Aberdeen Tigers. I remember going home and seeing the Balmain Tigers play on TV and thinking that they were the same team my father played for because of the same jerseys.

That bond was strengthen when I started playing for the Aberdeen Tigers as a 6 year old, always wanted the 8 jersey because that was what Wayne Pearce played in. The 88 and 89 sides came and went and that again strengthened that connection. The 90’s were tough and thought about changing teams like my brothers did but just could never bring myself to do it. I moved to Sydney in 1998 and started to semi regularly attend games

The end in 1999 hurt so much and I swore to myself that footy was dead to me. My then GF, now wife, knew how much footy meant to me and for Christmas in 1999 bought me season tickets to Wests Tigers 1st season and that brought me home again.

Now why do I have such an attachment to the location of a team that I never lived within the boundaries of?

For me it goes back to when I was a kid living in a small town with that true sense of community, I knew the whole town, I knew the local footy heroes and that is what this club now does for me I go to the games and I see people I have sat near for 20 years, seen them get older, lots now have kids and have started bringing their kids to games. I feel a part of the club, I feel like a part of the club, Benji and Robbie for example, I have known them since they were kids, not personally but as representatives of our club. I funny example is back in January I saw Robbie randomly in Bondi, I had no Tigers gear on but he saw me and come over and said hello and chatted about the preseason for a minute or 2. He doesn’t really know me but has seen me enough at team events over the years to know that I am a Tigers supporter. That is the connection I want and need with my club and it goes back to as a kid knowing all the local footballers in town. That is why I feel about this team the way I do!

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@MAGPIES1963 said in Matterson unhappy at Tigers?:

Our current W.T. board are so pathetically hopeless, they can’t even make the decision to tell our most divisive player ever “to just bugger off”.

Our most capped player should not be told “to just bugger off”, that post in disrespectful in the extreme. The reason we are in the mess we are now is the CEO stuffed up and the previous coach signed washed up players to large contracts. Robbie Farah has a right to talk about this club, much more of a right than any of us, yourself included!

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The signing of contracts 15 months in advance and then pressuring current club into a release needs to stop, it is terrible for the game!

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@rustycage said in Lawrence at the end of the game:

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@rustycage said in Lawrence at the end of the game:

@maxxn99 said in Lawrence at the end of the game:

@Madge
It all comes back to his hip injury… his foot doesn’t come within coo-ee of the ball.

You’re joking right?

It’s true. People who have used him as their punching bag over the years forget that. Either out of convienicnce or ignorance. Sky was the limit pre injury. He could hit a hole as good as anyone that’s ever played the game. Sadly, a big part of him as a footballer died that night. And what’s most sad about it is that the injury happened in the last 2 minutes when the game was already won. A total waste.

It’s complete BS that he cant touch the ball with his foot. In saying that, I’ve never really taken notice of his play the balls. I think if he was asked, then he’d laugh. He was awful as a centre for years after the injury and I wanted him gone. Not because I didn’t like the guy, but he simply wasn’t any good in that position and that’s where he stayed. Since his move to the forwards, he’s been terrific. But suggesting that his movement is that limited is crazy. If he touches it once, the theory is blown out of the water.

He copped an unrelenting and undeserved barrage on here. He was criticised for his contract, a contract he signed when he was one of the best centres in the game. His contract value wasn’t unreasonable at the time of signing and he was injured horribly while representing our club, the club many of his critics professed to love. He then restructure his deal and took a massive pay cut and people still bashed him. He has given our club so much I’m happy for him to decide when he has had enough and I’m happy for him to have a place in our squad until that time. It’s not like he costs us any of our limited salary cap!

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@Anon-lurker said in Josh Addo Carr Contract Discussion:

So what is his family issues?
without knowing his situation it seems to be the go to reason , For footy players to get out of contracts even tho it’s about $$$

He has recently been granted custody of his 5 year old daughter and wants to be close to her mother to allow visitation and to also receive support from his family.

I don’t believe this is the typical player trying to get out of a contract. I don’t care which club he goes to and feel Melbourne should release him on compassionate grounds!

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@gallagher said in Aliens.:

Is scientology proof of aliens or proof of religion?

Proof of stupid people I believe!

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@Tigerstar said in Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion:

Sounds to me as we have publicly removed our offer so we can work on this behind the scenes with out any pressure fingers crossed anyways

The POM explained why. Mitchell himself isn’t the issue, it’s his manager who happens to be the roadblock.

So are you saying that Mitchell really really really wants to play for us but his manager is preventing that happening?

If Mitchell wanted to be a Tiger he would have signed, it’s that simple.

Seriously, not again

You don’t have to involve yourself if you don’t like it, i wasn’t replying to you, you seem to just like complaining.
Go do the dishes or something.

Wow, that’s ironic.

Oh so you understand irony, I’m surprised because you don’t seem to understand much else

Good, now that’s out of your system, can you tell us where Latrell does want to go, because I’m struggling. He’s had a couple clubs interested and has not committed to any of them. The Cows asked him what most appeals about Townsville and he said fishing and shooting. The guys mind is clearly not on the game atm. The more I think of it, you’re probably right, he probably doesn’t wanna play for us. It sounds like he doesn’t wanna play for anyone atm.

I have no idea, he doesn’t seem to know what he wants so how could I possibly know.

My guess is he’ll end up at Souths somehow, sometime but it’s just a guess on a hunch.

So you concede he doesn’t know what he wants, but mockingly repeat how he doesn’t want to play for us, as if that’s a reflection on us.

Never said I knew what he wants.

The fact he seems to have no other option plus
We offered him the money he wants
We offered him his prefered position in his prefered location and he still didn’t sign.

All that to me seems pretty clear he doesn’t want to play for us.

The club has concerns about his commitment to us, so imo they’re crazy to leave the door ajar for him.
Like I said before (and you might not agree and that’s ok) to me we’re the partner ending the relationship but leaving the back door open.

If we have serious enough concerns about his commitment that we pulled his contract, do we want him here on the coin we offered him?

You said he doesn’t seem to know what he wants. Probably true. But you’re using that as an indictment on us that ‘’ he doesn’t want to play for us’’. As if there’s something is wrong with us. You deny you used those words, but that attitude is dripping off your posts. You think the club are losers because they couldn’t basically kick a goal with a wide open net, with no goalie. You’re gloating, almost giddy about it. Then you acknowledge that he doesn’t know what he wants, meaning he could have turned us down for a lot of different reasons, pretty much contradicting yourself.

I’ll say it again, I never said I “know” what he “wants” to do.
It’s my opinion that his actions demonstrate that he “doesn’t” want to play for us.

If I say someone “doesn’t” want to do something.
it doesn’t mean I’m claiming i “do” know what they want to do.

I have no idea as to reasons why he doesn’t want to play for us, never claimed to know.

E.g
If I say I “don’t believe” Pixies exist
It’s not the same as saying
I “believe” that pixies don’t exist.

Understand the difference before you say I said something I didn’t, it’s neuanced but significant.

You don’t have to say it. It’s the way you come across. You were rubbing the club’s face in it. Deny it all you like.

Yes I’m saying the club are fools for leaving the back door open for a player that has already demonstrated to them that he’s not commited to playing for them.
I also think fans are fools for believing that he’d sign with us to begin with.

If you disagree, that’s fine, but it’s my opinion and this forum is a place to share our opinions is it not?

I guess so. Even if you have to smash us over the head with it 20 plus times. Just in case you weren’t clear the first time.

I wouldn’t have had to if people didn’t keep misrepresenting what I ACTUALLY said.
And writing what they THOUGHT I said.

And you also don’t have to involve yourself, if you don’t like what I say or what anyone else says, you don’t have to be here or read it or comment on it.

Either some people’s comprehension skills are poor or they read into things what they want to read, not what is actually being said, I’m sure you can also relate to this and understand the frustration.
When someone repeats your words back to you and gets you totally wrong it’s only natural to want to set the record straight.

Communication is a two way process. In my opinion it is a poor communicator who blames the other person (or people) for misunderstanding what they were trying to communicate, instead of looking at the way they trying to communicate it as well.

I think what annoyed people about your posts though @Tiger was that you were calling everyone else fools if they did not agree with you. Instead of saying what you think, you came across (to me anyway, and from other comments I don’t think I’m alone) saying you know how it is, and anyone who doesn’t see that is a fool. People generally don’t like being referred to as fools. Opinions are like bumholes, everyone’s got one, and none are more “right” than any other.

But what do I know, just my opinion, and yes I see the irony in writing my opinion about opinions…

Yes it’s my opinion that whoever thought Mitchell would seriously end up at the Tigers are fools, I think they’ve been fooled.

If you don’t like it, I can’t help that.

If you think I’m a fool for believing something, that’s fine, I won’t cry about it, you’re entitled to your opinion just like you said.

If Mitchell does end up here I’m sure you’re all going to be calling me a fool, and I’ll laugh my ass off about it.

The issue is that your posts came across as quite aggressive and condescending, now that may not have been your intention and I don’t care one way or the other as I have a number of people who have blocked me because they do not like the style of my posts, hello @MAGPIES1963 .

You may be right and he may not ever have wanted to come here, but that does not making people fools for getting excited and wrapped up in the hype. It would be like calling my 6 year old daughter a fool for believing in Santa. You seem to be on a mission to take people’s hope and belief away, it is fine if you are, but you shouldn’t be surprised when you get a little attitude back along the way!

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@Geo said in Garner:

Rowdy shut down Pongo when he came on…

100%, he was all him, most people won’t see it though.

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@Tiger_Steve said in Lawrence to weigh up future after ruling out Super League move:

all me old fashioned but this bloke needs to be given another contract due to his outstanding service to the club - plus he’s not old and is still first grade standard.

@TigerTiger said in Lawrence to weigh up future after ruling out Super League move:

After the way we have welcomed back Benji and Robbie, watching them get to their 300, I can’t see Chrissy playing for another club against us. If he’s determined to play on, we need to come to an agreement and sign him up.

Agreed and agreed!

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@Russell said in Balmain Leagues Club:

@cochise said in Balmain Leagues Club:

@Russell said in Balmain Leagues Club:

@cochise said in Balmain Leagues Club:

@Russell said in Balmain Leagues Club:

Balmain would die - but I would still have the memories.

So what would be the point of voting no?

That they don’t get swallowed up and lose their identity.

They would go out on their own terms - better to be gone 100% than have your 100% reduced to 10% (with no voting rights and no say in what happens anyway) until swallowed up completely.

Well they will have voting rights, and will be still able to run the juniors, this is the only way to keep the Balmain Tigers identity! They also do not have 100% they now have 25% which is being reduced to 10%

The point was they had 100% - now 25 that will be reduced to 10%. Where is the Balmain Tigers identity? It will be a West Tigers Leagues Club and so will the one at Flemington, and how long before the Balmain Juniors are incorporated into being Wests Magpies Juniors?

By the way as I understand it - they have 2 places on the board with no voting rights.

It will be 2 places on a 9 person board. The identity will be on the jersey’s of every junior in the Balmain district. Yes Balmain’s share is getting smaller but that is what happens when you go broke. I am thankful to Wests Ashfield for helping Balmain survive!

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@Tigerlily said in Matterson unhappy at Tigers?:

@cochise said in Matterson unhappy at Tigers?:

@Tigerlily said in Matterson unhappy at Tigers?:

Simples…Just give him the money that Chris Lawrence would’ve received, if that’s what we have to do to keep Matterson at the Club then so be it.

As I said earlier we can’t just do that as the offer to Chris is around minimum wage, so the money we would have paid Chris needs to go to his replacement.

I think this shows that the Tigers are about to free up some $ from somewhere else!

Thanks, Cochise didn’t see your earlier post…I think his obviously aware of the impeding musical chairs that will happen at our Club with some of our players being move on and just wants a bigger slice of the pie - before the money gets spent elsewhere, which I think is fair enough, he knows his worth to the club (possible future Captain and all)…That is if what’s been reported is in fact true or just “fake news”.

I think you are spot on, We are supposed to hear about Matulino’s retirement soon, if that is approved that will free up a chunk of cash. Then add to it possible movements in relation to Reynolds and Packer, we should be able to easily upgrade Matterson and he certainly deserves it!

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@Tiger_Steve said in Tigers tell Reynolds he's free to find a new club:

But he hasn’t said that regarding Marshall. All he has said publicly is he likes the way Marshall plays and encouraged him to play again. What’s wrong with that?

Nor did he say that Reynolds would be in CC no matter what, in fact he was told he would be given every opportunity to get back into 1st grade! That just doesn’t fit the narrative some people are trying to push!

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@hobbo1 said in When or What makes this season unacceptable:

Acceptable and contention aren’t the words I’d use .
This team has gone backwards at a rate of knots with pretty much the same squad as last season.
Can’t half tell who the mediocrity fan boys are .

So lets sack another coach and start again again. It appears that Madge is trying to free up some $ to be able to recruit some players because our squad is simply not up to scratch. This is what we need to be doing, it is how clubs get out of cap mess. It is just harder for us because the contracts of some of our players are just so bad they are difficult to get rid of.

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@Tiger_Steve said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@Masterton said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@bigsiro said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@jadtiger said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@Tiger_Steve said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

There’s a scene in Monty Python’s Life of Brian where a member of the Judean People’s Front turns to their leader and says, “it’s happening Stan, something is actually happening!!!”
Well I’m starting to feel that finally, after years and years of mishap, misfortune and plain incompetence; after many false starts, something is finally happening. Maybe now we can all start whistling to “always look on the bright side of life!!”

Not sure why we would want to be nailed up on a cross but Turdberg would approve

Cool comment guy. Well worked in.
This thread was definitely missing some veiled anti semitism.

I don’t know TigerSteve, but I can’t see antisemitism there. He’s responding to a Monty Python reference.

Wow! From a joke people jump to this! Wow!

Don’t worry about it mate, all that was needed was comprehension skills. I’m sure the vast majority read your post in the manner it was intended!

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@helmesy said in Josh Addo Carr Contract Discussion:

(Speaking as a Dad myself) if push comes to shove I’m choosing the welfare of my child/family over a football contract. This could backfire badly on Storm if they don’t release him due to exceptional circumstances.

Agreed mate, in this circumstance I think it is a pretty crappy decision on Storm’s part.