@2005magic said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@teddy23 - or throw a huge tanty, go and sulk and refuse to play. Remember he doesnt sing the national anthem- he already has a huge chip on his shoulders. Let some other team take the chance. I’d rather Moses Suli come back.

So we’ll turn our nose up at a dual premiership winning centre who averages 16 tries a season and kicks goals because he won’t sing a song? Someone who is infinitely better than anyone we already have in our backline and can also play fullback.

I don’t care if he has a chip on his shoulder, I don’t care if he doesn’t want to sing the anthem, I don’t care if he takes umbrage to being dropped. He doesn’t drink drive, he doesn’t beat up women, he doesn’t stalk or intimidate women in foreign countries, he doesn’t sexually assault women. Maybe he just wears his heart on his sleeve. We all thought Matto was a good bloke, how’d that turn out?

He is a talent, Fifita has a chip on his shoulder and we’ve heard endlessly here about how we should never have let him go, and this is a bloke who threatens to bash officials at junior footy games and openly supports one-punch killers.

Or do we just hate this kid because he won’t sing the anthem and gets poo face when he gets dropped? The only reason I hate the kid at the moment is because he wears blue, red and white on a footy field 30 weekends a year. That would change in an instant if he traded it for black, white and orange.

I’ll admit I was furious when Ivan dicked us.

I was furious that Penrith were so underhanded in the way they carried on.

I was upset that Ivan couldn’t be honest about the whole affair as I felt the fans deserved better.

I thought he was on the right track with the gritty, playing for each other attitude that he advertised.

But I can also admit that even though he had me hoodwinked, all the heartache he caused with his exit was totally worth it, even if we don’t manage to scrape in next week.

To those bemoaning the release of Matterson without us coming out on top being apparent, wait until the dominoes fall before you start cutting your wrists. A release usually comes before a signing.

@innsaneink said in Joey Leulia Out for Two Weeks:

Might wait to see why before hangin crap on him

Precisely. Those bagging him must all be single and not have partners of their own. Also, unless BJ’s missus is his sister or cousin (which I highly doubt is the case,) a personal family reason affecting him does not also have to involve his brother.

I think we’re all letting the heightened expectations of what he was going to bring us onfield spill into our judgement of him as a human being. That’s not fair.

It didn’t work with him.

Three years, and it delivered nothing. What does bringing him back for a third time do, other than make 50,000 Facebook casual fans happy?

The wheels really feel off when Pascoe got pinged for the Farah debacle. Go was ousted, Pascoe has been in hiding since returning and the club has gone back to leaking like a sieve.

Go had control of the place. She knew how to control everything and the minute she left we went to pot. She is sorely missed.

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@Cultured_Bogan said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

A convicted wife beating anti-vaxxer who has a reputation for bagging out the disabled.

Sounds like the sort of bloke we’d want to build our club around.

He’s a great player that’s all that matters. Does he train and play hard? If so, then we should chase them

Plenty of absolute idiot players in the NRL who have done terrible things, taking the moral high ground gets you no where nowadays. All that matters is if they can play

I can take a guy like JAC who flaunted COVID rules to go on a shoot. I could even take a guy who DUI’d. They are both examples of reckless behaviour, but I cannot abide someone who beats their partner. Domestic violence is something that does not sit right with me. You’re free to disagree obviously, but I believe the club and league in general needs to apply better judgment with guys like this. I wasn’t happy about Musgrove signing until his conviction was overturned.

Being a great player doesn’t absolve you of having to be accountable for your actions. He showed his colours towards women again when Molan made fun of islander surnames (which I don’t agree with either.)

We have to persist with Madge. We’ve changed coaches four times since Sheens. Nothing changed. Time we backed the coach and let him clean out.

Look forward to fringe first grade players who earn twice the average Australian wage lecturing everyone that times are tough and they can’t afford to take the paycut.

Stop buying Gucci man purses and sandals and you’ll be right.

Funny how they want to be partners in the game when things are going well and revenues are up and the cap goes up. The proverbial hits the fan and all of a sudden they scramble to look after themselves. Want all of the reward with no risk.

Lee on SEN now saying he will be pushing the NRL to ensure that players requesting releases on compassionate grounds cannot profit from the release and that their remuneration should remain the same for the remaining period on the defaulted contract.

I agree with him. Should generate support from all clubs.

If this constant defaulting on contracts stops it should arrest the rapid rate of increasing player salaries.

They looked really serious tonight. 80 minutes and got trounced 50 blot.

Hopefully Mbye puts on a clinic and the Titans sign him up immediately.

@tigger said in Politics Super Thread - keep it all in here:

@jadtiger said in Politics Super Thread - keep it all in here:

@happy_tiger said in Politics Super Thread - keep it all in here:

@tigger said in Politics Super Thread - keep it all in here:

@tilllindemann said in Politics Super Thread - keep it all in here:

Cini for Prime Minister, let’s make it happen.

OK TL, but does that mean we’ll have to play Morrison on the left wing?

Ranga for Ranga …D Trump

In Trumps mind you would never lose a game and win each one by record margins

Can you imagine it if we lost in golden point. “We had a beautiful thing going here for us and they stole it. They stole it away from us”

Come to think of it, maybe he’s already here on the forum!

He was here at one point.

@innsaneink said in Coronavirus Outbreak:

I recall a massive religious festival about a month ago in India where millions were gathering and bathing in the Ganges river… Remember thinking that wouldn’t augur well,

There you go…

It’s not surpising, it’s happened everywhere in the major hotspots. Pretty sure the US had spikes after Thanksgiving and Christmas. Europe & Brazil I think had spikes after Christmas.

Spain had a wave in October, not sure what that was for, I am pretty sure San Fermin was cancelled and not aware of any other major festivals or holidays that fall in August and September.

@hobbo1 said in Luke Brooks:

That is a disturbing photo.

@jadtiger said in Coronavirus Outbreak:

@bathursttiger1 said in Coronavirus Outbreak:

@jadtiger said in Coronavirus Outbreak:

@bathursttiger1 said in Coronavirus Outbreak:

@ozluke said in Coronavirus Outbreak:

@tigger said in Coronavirus Outbreak:

@tiger5150 said in Coronavirus Outbreak:

At the risk of totally blowing up this thread, Ill throw out an interesting thought experiment purely for conversation.

Let me preface all of this by saying I am NOT anti Vax and at some stage I will probably be getting, just trying to work out (nothing to do with this discussion) when is the right time to get it.

Right now in Australia, based on our current border controls, there is no need to get vaccinated from a personal protection point of view.

Rationale behind vaccinating Australians would include protection in the case of a quarantine outbreak and of course preparation for when international travel becomes less or unrestricted. These reasons make sense and have different levels of urgency.

Trouble is the virus is still burning through populations all over the world with varying intensity. As the virus goes through a population it will naturally mutate and evolve. We are seeing the new “UK”, “SA” and “Brazilian” strains are more infectious and virulent. Im not sure that there is conclusive evidence that the current vaccines cover these (or future) strains. There is actually a train of thought amongst scientists (link below) that implementing the vaccine in the middle of this pandemic will actually encourage the evolution of more virulent strains in the same way inefficient use of antibiotics encourages bacterial “superbugs”. It is likely that the vaccine will need to be taken annually like the flu shot.

So my thought experiment is this. Should Australias implementation of the vaccine take into account the anticipated (if known) timetable for international travel? To further explain what I mean I suggest that if the international gates were to be thrown open in 3 months it would make sense for all aussies to go and get the vax now, as is, but if its going to be another 3 years, wouldnt it make sense to wait and get an up to date vax in 2.5 years time with 2.5 years of development and virus revisions?

I’m off to get the Astra Zeneca injection tomorrow. If I die from it I’ll be sure to put a post on the forum to let you know.

My rationale for getting the injection is that I don’t believe that Australia has seen the last of this scourge. As they said in that show, “Winter is coming”.

Hotel quarantine was a good first line response to the pandemic but hotels are not really adequate as a long term response. There have been a dozen or more outbreaks from hotel quarantine and there will be more.

The experience overseas indicates that the virus will spread more rapidly during the winter months and I suspect that might happen in Australia. Escape of the virus is almost a certainty, given that we have a paucity of purpose built quarantine facilities and most of the quarantine hotels are yet to adequately address aerosol flow (and may never do so).

Given my age and some underlying (not serious) health issues, I think that having the injection is a lower risk than not having it. If I was 40 years younger I might have a different view.

mate I got my astra jab through work. Made me feel rotten for about 3 days then I was fine. Headache sore joints and lethargy, then nothing.
Just an fyi from personal experience

I’m getting mine had on Thursday, if I kick the bucket, I’ve told my wife I want this in my headstone “told you I wasn’t feeling well”

Thats on Spike Milligans headstone

That’s where I got it from, I’m a Spike fan.
One of the best comedians ever.

Agreed.he was one of the best

Yeah he was good, I’m a big fan of Peter Cook and Dudley Moore too.

@jadtiger said in Coronavirus Outbreak:

@bathursttiger1 said in Coronavirus Outbreak:

@ozluke said in Coronavirus Outbreak:

@tigger said in Coronavirus Outbreak:

@tiger5150 said in Coronavirus Outbreak:

At the risk of totally blowing up this thread, Ill throw out an interesting thought experiment purely for conversation.

Let me preface all of this by saying I am NOT anti Vax and at some stage I will probably be getting, just trying to work out (nothing to do with this discussion) when is the right time to get it.

Right now in Australia, based on our current border controls, there is no need to get vaccinated from a personal protection point of view.

Rationale behind vaccinating Australians would include protection in the case of a quarantine outbreak and of course preparation for when international travel becomes less or unrestricted. These reasons make sense and have different levels of urgency.

Trouble is the virus is still burning through populations all over the world with varying intensity. As the virus goes through a population it will naturally mutate and evolve. We are seeing the new “UK”, “SA” and “Brazilian” strains are more infectious and virulent. Im not sure that there is conclusive evidence that the current vaccines cover these (or future) strains. There is actually a train of thought amongst scientists (link below) that implementing the vaccine in the middle of this pandemic will actually encourage the evolution of more virulent strains in the same way inefficient use of antibiotics encourages bacterial “superbugs”. It is likely that the vaccine will need to be taken annually like the flu shot.

So my thought experiment is this. Should Australias implementation of the vaccine take into account the anticipated (if known) timetable for international travel? To further explain what I mean I suggest that if the international gates were to be thrown open in 3 months it would make sense for all aussies to go and get the vax now, as is, but if its going to be another 3 years, wouldnt it make sense to wait and get an up to date vax in 2.5 years time with 2.5 years of development and virus revisions?

I’m off to get the Astra Zeneca injection tomorrow. If I die from it I’ll be sure to put a post on the forum to let you know.

My rationale for getting the injection is that I don’t believe that Australia has seen the last of this scourge. As they said in that show, “Winter is coming”.

Hotel quarantine was a good first line response to the pandemic but hotels are not really adequate as a long term response. There have been a dozen or more outbreaks from hotel quarantine and there will be more.

The experience overseas indicates that the virus will spread more rapidly during the winter months and I suspect that might happen in Australia. Escape of the virus is almost a certainty, given that we have a paucity of purpose built quarantine facilities and most of the quarantine hotels are yet to adequately address aerosol flow (and may never do so).

Given my age and some underlying (not serious) health issues, I think that having the injection is a lower risk than not having it. If I was 40 years younger I might have a different view.

mate I got my astra jab through work. Made me feel rotten for about 3 days then I was fine. Headache sore joints and lethargy, then nothing.
Just an fyi from personal experience

I’m getting mine had on Thursday, if I kick the bucket, I’ve told my wife I want this in my headstone “told you I wasn’t feeling well”

Thats on Spike Milligans headstone

Haha beat me to it. He had it written in Gaelic.

I wish this wanker’s liver would just give out…

Deadset if you watch NRL360, he has to wear a sports jacket because he has the alcoholic sweats and looks like he has showered with this shirt on and he shakes like a dog crapping razor blades.

@mike said in Coronavirus Outbreak:

@cultured_bogan said in Coronavirus Outbreak:

@tiger5150 said in Coronavirus Outbreak:

@cultured_bogan said in Coronavirus Outbreak:

@harvey said in Coronavirus Outbreak:

@cultured_bogan said in Coronavirus Outbreak:

@harvey said in Coronavirus Outbreak:

People want to hold the government accountable.

If you were overseas at the time of the pandemic and immediately tried to repatriate when the government warned all citizens to get home, then the government should be ashamed that they did not do more to get these people home.

People that left after the pandemic broke out, or chose to stay O/S for personal benefit, made their own decision. Should not expect a bailout.

I would expect people pay their way home. I don’t expect taxpayer funded charter flights. I simply do not want Australians being told they can’t come home.

There is a variety of reasons why one could be overseas during the pandemic.

Isn’t that what the situation has been with the exception of India the last few days? Need to pay for your own flight home & your own quarantine.

The issue is the number of flights and and the amount of quarantine space available, which the government does not have total control over.

If the government was to suddenly increase the availability of quarantine spaces through using places like Christmas island and other isolated areas, what do you think the reaction would be:
a) Thank you. I am so grateful I just want to get home.
b) That’s barbaric you can’t expect us to go to those locations we need to have … blah, blah, blah insert any requirements that demonstrate a sense of self centred entitlement.

The government has had ample opportunity to create more quarantine places in remote areas.

The second part of your comment is merely supposition on your part. There’s been people whinging about being locked down in 5-star hotels so anything is possible.

There is a 6 - 8 week waiting list. Anyone over seas has had “ample opportunity” to get home and it has been their responsibility. I share with most here that it does seem pretty tough to completely shut the door on India, ie you CANT come back, but even in that case all of those people have had 14 months to make that decisions and the Govt hasnt made the decision out of spite, it is to protect its citizens here.

That’s a fair point regarding returning home, and I get why people feel that way, although I feel there are a myriad of reasons as to why one would be overseas. Anecdotal but a colleague I used to work with returned to Australia with his family from Singapore for a period, and has recently been ordered to return to guarantee his employment. His family are staying behind and he is returning so that he does not lose his job.

However, I am of the opinion that your Australian passport guarantees you entry to this country at all times. I am never in favour of telling Australian citizens that they cannot come home, much less threatening them with hefty fines or gaol time.

If our own Government can’t respect the passport what do you think other governments will do. I believe this will have long term consequences past COVID.

It looks like it will be challenged in court, and so it should.

This is why I believe it is important that the borders be left open to returning citizens. It’s starts off being a public safety issue, and then all of a sudden it’s expanded to people the government deem a threat for whatever reason.

I hope it is challenged, and I hope it is successful.

@tiger5150 said in Coronavirus Outbreak:

@cultured_bogan said in Coronavirus Outbreak:

@harvey said in Coronavirus Outbreak:

@cultured_bogan said in Coronavirus Outbreak:

@harvey said in Coronavirus Outbreak:

People want to hold the government accountable.

If you were overseas at the time of the pandemic and immediately tried to repatriate when the government warned all citizens to get home, then the government should be ashamed that they did not do more to get these people home.

People that left after the pandemic broke out, or chose to stay O/S for personal benefit, made their own decision. Should not expect a bailout.

I would expect people pay their way home. I don’t expect taxpayer funded charter flights. I simply do not want Australians being told they can’t come home.

There is a variety of reasons why one could be overseas during the pandemic.

Isn’t that what the situation has been with the exception of India the last few days? Need to pay for your own flight home & your own quarantine.

The issue is the number of flights and and the amount of quarantine space available, which the government does not have total control over.

If the government was to suddenly increase the availability of quarantine spaces through using places like Christmas island and other isolated areas, what do you think the reaction would be:
a) Thank you. I am so grateful I just want to get home.
b) That’s barbaric you can’t expect us to go to those locations we need to have … blah, blah, blah insert any requirements that demonstrate a sense of self centred entitlement.

The government has had ample opportunity to create more quarantine places in remote areas.

The second part of your comment is merely supposition on your part. There’s been people whinging about being locked down in 5-star hotels so anything is possible.

There is a 6 - 8 week waiting list. Anyone over seas has had “ample opportunity” to get home and it has been their responsibility. I share with most here that it does seem pretty tough to completely shut the door on India, ie you CANT come back, but even in that case all of those people have had 14 months to make that decisions and the Govt hasnt made the decision out of spite, it is to protect its citizens here.

That’s a fair point regarding returning home, and I get why people feel that way, although I feel there are a myriad of reasons as to why one would be overseas. Anecdotal but a colleague I used to work with returned to Australia with his family from Singapore for a period, and has recently been ordered to return to guarantee his employment. His family are staying behind and he is returning so that he does not lose his job.

However, I am of the opinion that your Australian passport guarantees you entry to this country at all times. I am never in favour of telling Australian citizens that they cannot come home, much less threatening them with hefty fines or gaol time.