@2005magic said in Brooks: What exactly has gone wrong?:

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Good pass more of that next year

Keep your eyes open - he only does one a year.

He does that more than once but one pass doesn’t prove he is a quality halfback. His kick to AD when we won at the end was great. He organized that and executed perfectly. His defense is good. His running game is pretty good.

He needs to be a lot more consistent plus offer more if we consider him the guy who is going to lead this team to winning the comp.

I still think he is our best half and we need to work on improving that situation or have Brooks improve a lot.

Next season oh Lord, next season. He should well and truely be off his P plates by now. This is all he will ever be.

I can’t see him turning into a great halfback either. I think he is our best option at the moment and currently for next season. I don’t think we have any other options.

I also think a lot of people’s expectations of Brooks need to change. He isn’t a great halfback. We can use him as a lower cost option in our halves who can do a lot of things well but not great.

@cktiger said in Brooks: What exactly has gone wrong?:

@Jay said in Brooks: What exactly has gone wrong?:

Good pass more of that next year

Keep your eyes open - he only does one a year.

He does that more than once but one pass doesn’t prove he is a quality halfback. His kick to AD when we won at the end was great. He organized that and executed perfectly. His defense is good. His running game is pretty good.

He needs to be a lot more consistent plus offer more if we consider him the guy who is going to lead this team to winning the comp.

I still think he is our best half and we need to work on improving that situation or have Brooks improve a lot.

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Why are people talking about singing a halve i thought we had 6/7 who could play in that position hence why we are letting Benji go.
So as far as I am concerned that’s one of the last positions we need to fill,after all it’s about balancing our squad isn’t it

We have many 6/7 that can play in that position - how many of them are worth a bean.

It’s like using public transport instead of buying a Ferrari. Think I’ll take the Ferrari myself.

Enjoy the public transport Goanna57.

Nothing wrong with public transport Russell it’s a lot cheaper and quite reliable,besides it keeps me employed.Remember it’s all about the balance of the squad so we don’t need another halve got any number can play there

I understand - but none of them play it well enough that is why we need a play maker.

Russ,I think that with Benji gone and JREY still with us next year maybe Madge has identified that Brooks plays better and is more comfortable with JR in the halves with him…
They both combined have a better win rate than LB and Benji this year…
Its just a thought because maybe JR could be a good player for us next year with more responsibility now Benji wont be there and Madges coaching could make the pair a good halves combination…I know there are many on here that dont like JR as a player but maybe next year could be a good year for him and us…who really knows what Madge has up his sleeve…

If Madge thought Reynolds was a better match for Brooks wouldn’t he have played Reynolds this year instead of Marshall?

I think that Madge played Marshall because of his attacking style and being a 6/7 could change the attack we had…Dont forget that Madge dropped Benji for his defense deficiencies and he put JR in which were some of the games we did win when Benji was on the bench…

I dont know what Madge has in his plans for next year and JR could be on the bench or out of the squad…I just dont think Madge wants to keep chopping and changing the combinations to much eg Mbye centre,fullback.or 5/8…I think Madge is looking for a stable competant halves combination next year ,who that will be anybody knows…

I think he played Benji there because he’s a better player. I don’t see Reynolds in Madge’s plans at all.

I think Madge has gotten it right as well. Reynolds is just a poor player. Maybe his enthusiasm worked well at some point and the lack of skill was less of a problem but that isn’t the case any more.

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Why are people talking about singing a halve i thought we had 6/7 who could play in that position hence why we are letting Benji go.
So as far as I am concerned that’s one of the last positions we need to fill,after all it’s about balancing our squad isn’t it

We have many 6/7 that can play in that position - how many of them are worth a bean.

It’s like using public transport instead of buying a Ferrari. Think I’ll take the Ferrari myself.

Enjoy the public transport Goanna57.

Nothing wrong with public transport Russell it’s a lot cheaper and quite reliable,besides it keeps me employed.Remember it’s all about the balance of the squad so we don’t need another halve got any number can play there

I understand - but none of them play it well enough that is why we need a play maker.

Russell I agree but what path do we go down ,wait for a proven experience player or the he’s got lots of potential but as yet not prove

Burton, Clifford and Drinkwater are all off contract at the end of 2021 - we have to start thinking of a solution by November 1 or they will all be gone. There will be others off contract at that time as well Flanagan, Williams, Dearden, Johnson, Fogarty etc.

However if we are not in there on November 1 - forget it.

Know what you are saying and I get it but you didn’t answer my question what path do we take.A lot of the names you have put forward are good maybe but not proven long term

What are we talking here 30 year old play maker like Green, Pearce or Johnson.

I’m not - I’m talking a good play maker that has quite a few years left, Burton, Clifford, Dearden, Fogarty etc. They all have more than potential.

Your more than likely right but I don’t think club will sign a halve for next season. Think they will go with Mbye or Doueihi

I reckon Mbye and Brooks are out best halves options with Madden, Walters and Reynolds as their back-ups. We really need to sign some quality halves and a fullback.

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How is sailors defence. Don’t recall seeing him play

About as good as any other rookie half, not very good

Then Reynolds/Walters are better, at least they can tackle. We need players who can tackle.

Until we stop leaking 30 points a game, we’ll never go anywhere.

He is better than Reynolds and Walters.
Walters will miss a chunk of the season recovering from his ACL at best he is a reserve anyway.

That’s a ridiculous statement. He’s played 3 games off the interchange bench at an ordinary team and missed about half the tackles he’s attempted.

There is potential sure, but he ain’t better than what we have.

So many fans seem to only look at the attack.

How is it ridiculous so many fans have blinkers on.

I analyze players on and off the ball, for defense & attack structures outside of the play efforts - always have.

Walters misses and falls off a heap of tackles its why he didn’t last at hooker. Because he couldn’t hold his man. The only thing he offers was spark in attack

Reynolds hits players high as part of his aggressive defense style and gets brushed off with ease, he also rushes up and gets beat every game. Again everyone talks about his energy but that also is in attack.

Sailor hits around the waste, he does arm grab but most kids do these days. His attack is better than the other 1.

Defense is at a similar level for all 3. Sailor age, lack of experience, body growth and skill level is however better value. His defense in juniors was fine. He needs time to adapt to the nrl.

I’m comparing apples with apples, thats not ridiculous because Reynolds, Walters and Sailor are all reggie players. Sailor is already a more value add offering than the other 2.

No to Sailor from me. Prefer Burton, Clifford or Drinkwater.

Drinkwater is a strange one, he kinda plays like Benji has been this year. He’ll throw a brilliant pass to set up a try, then 5 minutes later will just boot the ball out on the full. Very hot and cold sometimes. Would prefer the other two you mentioned over him

That’s why I have him third.

Tigers will have to be careful. Their formal reason for not keeping Benji is because they have too many halves, if they sign another one for next season it’ll be another media blowup.

Hopefully come November 1st we are already talking to players about joining us for 2022, we’ve got the money there’s plenty of talent available let’s do it ASAP

Hopefully we can offload Reynolds at the end of this year, then we can sign a good young half in place of him and not Benji, because if we go into next season with the halves we have at the moment, then we’ve got nothing!

I don’t see how we can possibly off load him. The best we can do is pick him if he is the best option. The problem is if he is being picked we are probably finishing well done the ladder.

Vale. Very sad.

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Sorry I’m a bit confused I thought it was the coaches job to address this issue and make the necessary adjustments

Correct. The coach picks the team.

It’s all well and good to state we can’t defend and the coach has to fix it. The problem is if the players aren’t good enough no coach can fix it.

@Elderslie_Tiger said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

Apparently Peta Hiku has been offered a one contract by the Worries on less money than this year he’s quite a good centre

He is a quality player. I’d love him here. We don’t need centres but he is good.

@happy_tiger said in Brooks: What exactly has gone wrong?:

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@Papacito said in Brooks: What exactly has gone wrong?:

I’m constantly amazed that after seven seasons and 145 games, people are still waiting for (nearly) 26 year old Brooks to come of age and/or step out from the shadow of Farah, Marshall or whoever.

This year he was thoroughly outplayed by a rookie hooker and a senior citizen five-eighth.

He’s an average halfback that can’t deliver us a top 8 finish.

I think this may be a fair call. I still think he is our best option out of the players that we have as one half. So you have to pick him.

We have to be looking for better halves though.

And that is exactly the problem …what top 8 sides HAVE to pick someone even though they aren’t up to it

It’s worse than what you are stating as well because he isn’t the biggest problem in the squad. That is why at this point you have to have him playing. Then you just hope he finds form.

I don’t think you can trade him either. It’s not like American sports where the talent pool is so much larger.

@Papacito said in Brooks: What exactly has gone wrong?:

I’m constantly amazed that after seven seasons and 145 games, people are still waiting for (nearly) 26 year old Brooks to come of age and/or step out from the shadow of Farah, Marshall or whoever.

This year he was thoroughly outplayed by a rookie hooker and a senior citizen five-eighth.

He’s an average halfback that can’t deliver us a top 8 finish.

I think this may be a fair call. I still think he is our best option out of the players that we have as one half. So you have to pick him.

We have to be looking for better halves though.