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@JD-Tiger said in JAC:

@ElleryHanley said in JAC:

JAC is a legit current Origin / Kangaroo.

In our history, we have never been able to land a legit / current Origin player / current Kangaroo.

He will / would have made a massive difference and given us legit X factor.

These things are why we don’t succeed. You have to get these deals done when they present themselves…

This could be an absolutely HUGE offseason for us. We could land JAC for next year, which would be great. Then we could also land an even bigger name (think million dollar a year player) for 2022. No idea who, but we would have the cash, and hot off the back of signing JAC we would be on a roll.

It is an enormous few months for the club. It may well shape our long term future.

Benji going (rightly imo) will cause a big drop off in casual fans and media. Next season, with the current roster, will likely be dire (no way the current crop of halves get us to the finals).

But…add in JAC and you have a star and tons of interest, kids have a new hero after Benji etc etc.

Add in the guys the Pom mentioned (Staines and Hetherington) and things start to look good. The club absolutely have to get these things done. Other clubs somehow manage to do these things. We have to also.

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JAC is a legit current Origin / Kangaroo.

In our history, we have never been able to land a legit / current Origin player / current Kangaroo.

He will / would have made a massive difference and given us legit X factor.

These things are why we don’t succeed. You have to get these deals done when they present themselves…

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@Joelcainenumber1fan said in Help me (and others) keep faith in Madge...:

been saying this for a while now whhhhyyyyy are we still focused on this year when the seasons been over for weeks
why did our style completely change when benji came back,we were all about defense after he got dropped

10000% this…

Madge was going on about being a tough team…D minded…

Dropped Benji and said players need to tackle…

Then brought him back…and no one has played good D since.

I just don’t know what happened to the Madge of rounds 1 to 6 and the Madge of the past two months. It is like his whole philosophy went out the window.

Maybe he has just run out of ideas and speeches, but the ‘current’ Madge has coached terribly.

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@cochise said in Help me (and others) keep faith in Madge...:

@ElleryHanley said in Help me (and others) keep faith in Madge...:

@cochise said in Help me (and others) keep faith in Madge...:

@ElleryHanley said in Help me (and others) keep faith in Madge...:

@Strongee said in Help me (and others) keep faith in Madge...:

@ElleryHanley said in Help me (and others) keep faith in Madge...:

To those defending Madge, I appreciate the posts and I ‘want’ to believe…

But can anyone answer the following:

  1. What is our defensive structure? They just seem to rush up and that is it. No cohesion at all. Airport lane holes have been there all year without any adjustment. Surely the coach had to react?

More importantly…and this is what concerns me the most…there seems to be absolutely ZERO attempt to get our spine ready for 2021. This period was a crucial chance to try a few things. Instead we got the ancient mariners who are not even wanted for 2021.

We are almost in October 2020 and our 2021 spine is:

  1. no one knows
    6 and 7 brooks will be one / no one has a clue who the other will be / massive concern.
  2. Liddle / Simpkins

Penrith used their dead rubber games to experiment in 2019 and it helped them start 2020 well and build. Madge has done absolutely nothing to use this time to get a head start on 2021.

Here me out … what if that was a game to showcase potential suitors of our dead wood.

Mate the defence is crap for 2 reasons . The middles don’t put their body in front , and the down benjis side don’t seem to trust each other . Ie. trust that the person can make the 1 on 1 stop. You watch brooks’ side . This used to happen to him all the time . Line breaks galore . Then he got his technique sorted , and they leave him to make the tackle . It doesn’t work all the time , as nothing is perfect , but if you trust your inside man , you can slide onto the shape forming in front of you , as if the ball player hits the under run , the bloke inside has that covered . It’s about trust and intent. There’s no trust , which leads to lack of intent , as you’re on the back foot thinking way too much .

If it was a showcase…then the show was very ugly.

Reality is any team after Reynolds and Packer would know by now what they offer / what they don’t offer.

IMO it should have been used to get some rookies and kids game time. Build some combos for 2021.

I don’t like setting kids up for failure and putting them into a losing side when they haven’t played any football since February is asking too much in my opinion. Get them training in their roles and give them the preseason to and trials to get ready for their debuts.

Valid points.

Who do you see as our spine in 2021 mate?

Mate that is the million $ question, it is looking like Brooks at 7, Liddle at 9 and Mbye at 1. The 6 is what I think is really up in the air with it being between Reynolds, Walters and Madden with Doueihi a smaller possibility. My personal preference would be to give Madden the trials to see how he goes.

Looks that way. I can’t see that spine getting a team to the finals though.

Hoping for JAC and / or Burton.

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@cochise said in Help me (and others) keep faith in Madge...:

@ElleryHanley said in Help me (and others) keep faith in Madge...:

@Strongee said in Help me (and others) keep faith in Madge...:

@ElleryHanley said in Help me (and others) keep faith in Madge...:

To those defending Madge, I appreciate the posts and I ‘want’ to believe…

But can anyone answer the following:

  1. What is our defensive structure? They just seem to rush up and that is it. No cohesion at all. Airport lane holes have been there all year without any adjustment. Surely the coach had to react?

More importantly…and this is what concerns me the most…there seems to be absolutely ZERO attempt to get our spine ready for 2021. This period was a crucial chance to try a few things. Instead we got the ancient mariners who are not even wanted for 2021.

We are almost in October 2020 and our 2021 spine is:

  1. no one knows
    6 and 7 brooks will be one / no one has a clue who the other will be / massive concern.
  2. Liddle / Simpkins

Penrith used their dead rubber games to experiment in 2019 and it helped them start 2020 well and build. Madge has done absolutely nothing to use this time to get a head start on 2021.

Here me out … what if that was a game to showcase potential suitors of our dead wood.

Mate the defence is crap for 2 reasons . The middles don’t put their body in front , and the down benjis side don’t seem to trust each other . Ie. trust that the person can make the 1 on 1 stop. You watch brooks’ side . This used to happen to him all the time . Line breaks galore . Then he got his technique sorted , and they leave him to make the tackle . It doesn’t work all the time , as nothing is perfect , but if you trust your inside man , you can slide onto the shape forming in front of you , as if the ball player hits the under run , the bloke inside has that covered . It’s about trust and intent. There’s no trust , which leads to lack of intent , as you’re on the back foot thinking way too much .

If it was a showcase…then the show was very ugly.

Reality is any team after Reynolds and Packer would know by now what they offer / what they don’t offer.

IMO it should have been used to get some rookies and kids game time. Build some combos for 2021.

I don’t like setting kids up for failure and putting them into a losing side when they haven’t played any football since February is asking too much in my opinion. Get them training in their roles and give them the preseason to and trials to get ready for their debuts.

Valid points.

Who do you see as our spine in 2021 mate?

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@Strongee said in Help me (and others) keep faith in Madge...:

@ElleryHanley said in Help me (and others) keep faith in Madge...:

To those defending Madge, I appreciate the posts and I ‘want’ to believe…

But can anyone answer the following:

  1. What is our defensive structure? They just seem to rush up and that is it. No cohesion at all. Airport lane holes have been there all year without any adjustment. Surely the coach had to react?

More importantly…and this is what concerns me the most…there seems to be absolutely ZERO attempt to get our spine ready for 2021. This period was a crucial chance to try a few things. Instead we got the ancient mariners who are not even wanted for 2021.

We are almost in October 2020 and our 2021 spine is:

  1. no one knows
    6 and 7 brooks will be one / no one has a clue who the other will be / massive concern.
  2. Liddle / Simpkins

Penrith used their dead rubber games to experiment in 2019 and it helped them start 2020 well and build. Madge has done absolutely nothing to use this time to get a head start on 2021.

Here me out … what if that was a game to showcase potential suitors of our dead wood.

Mate the defence is crap for 2 reasons . The middles don’t put their body in front , and the down benjis side don’t seem to trust each other . Ie. trust that the person can make the 1 on 1 stop. You watch brooks’ side . This used to happen to him all the time . Line breaks galore . Then he got his technique sorted , and they leave him to make the tackle . It doesn’t work all the time , as nothing is perfect , but if you trust your inside man , you can slide onto the shape forming in front of you , as if the ball player hits the under run , the bloke inside has that covered . It’s about trust and intent. There’s no trust , which leads to lack of intent , as you’re on the back foot thinking way too much .

If it was a showcase…then the show was very ugly.

Reality is any team after Reynolds and Packer would know by now what they offer / what they don’t offer.

IMO it should have been used to get some rookies and kids game time. Build some combos for 2021.

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@izotope said in Help me (and others) keep faith in Madge...:

@ElleryHanley said in Help me (and others) keep faith in Madge...:

To those defending Madge, I appreciate the posts and I ‘want’ to believe…

But can anyone answer the following:

  1. What is our defensive structure? They just seem to rush up and that is it. No cohesion at all. Airport lane holes have been there all year without any adjustment. Surely the coach had to react?

More importantly…and this is what concerns me the most…there seems to be absolutely ZERO attempt to get our spine ready for 2021. This period was a crucial chance to try a few things. Instead we got the ancient mariners who are not even wanted for 2021.

We are almost in October 2020 and our 2021 spine is:

  1. no one knows
    6 and 7 brooks will be one / no one has a clue who the other will be / massive concern.
  2. Liddle / Simpkins

Penrith used their dead rubber games to experiment in 2019 and it helped them start 2020 well and build. Madge has done absolutely nothing to use this time to get a head start on 2021.

It’s not defensive structure, they have shown they know how to defend over multiple games.

All attitude, and it all stems from the warriors game as when it changed. My mail was alot of players got the poo’s that garner was dropped as he is very popular in the team.

So you back the players or the coach

If that is true re Garner…then we need a whole new team. Garner, aka the turnstile, has been guilty of one or two arm grab misses a game costing tries. I don’t care if he is popular. Hopefully he is off to Manly soon ‘if’ that is true.

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To those defending Madge, I appreciate the posts and I ‘want’ to believe…

But can anyone answer the following:

  1. What is our defensive structure? They just seem to rush up and that is it. No cohesion at all. Airport lane holes have been there all year without any adjustment. Surely the coach had to react?

More importantly…and this is what concerns me the most…there seems to be absolutely ZERO attempt to get our spine ready for 2021. This period was a crucial chance to try a few things. Instead we got the ancient mariners who are not even wanted for 2021.

We are almost in October 2020 and our 2021 spine is:

  1. no one knows
    6 and 7 brooks will be one / no one has a clue who the other will be / massive concern.
  2. Liddle / Simpkins

Penrith used their dead rubber games to experiment in 2019 and it helped them start 2020 well and build. Madge has done absolutely nothing to use this time to get a head start on 2021.

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@Furious1 said in Help me (and others) keep faith in Madge...:

@ElleryHanley said in Help me (and others) keep faith in Madge...:

Someone explain the logic…

We have young centers who desperately need games at center.
We have a young winger who needs to develop combos with them.
We have nothing to lose / season done…

PERFECT game to play Talau or Hoffman…

And…
We play Lawrence.

That just killed all faith I had left.

It makes no sense on every level right now and even less looking at 2021.

He played Talau last week and all everyone did after was want to trade him out.

I am not a big Talau fan…but you had to think of 2021 and let the kid at least get some games. What did playing Lawrence do to help 2021? It made zero difference tonight. But i expected the coach to at least have an eye on 2021.

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@tiger05premier said in Help me (and others) keep faith in Madge...:

@JoshColeman99 said in Help me (and others) keep faith in Madge...:

One of the worst rosters in the league. Worst thing we can do is lose faith in the coach the fans and the club need to back him.

To think a coach could turn around the worst team in the comp in less than 4 or 5 years is ridiculous.

At least you get it not too many on here have any idea at all

Mate, let’s just stop blaming the roster…Dogs are worse. Titans are worse. Warriors have hand me downs…Sharks had 8 Newtown players recently in their top 17…please, just stop the easy option. We have been terrible for two straight months. Even really poor teams…really, really, poor teams historically…man up and have a good D performance once a month. We have had nothing. I can’t just keep saying ‘blame the roster’.

There ‘should’ have been tangible improvement in at least some areas. There has been nothing.