@tony-soprano said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

He seems a good bloke too.

I think madge doesn’t mind a veteran winger and he knows how to pick them (lote).

I think beyond the preconceived opinions of him on here you will find he has more upside than AJ.

All I remember of this bloke is him spruiking “tigers are like a bad ex-girlfriend” because our fans hated Ivan. No thanks to this bloke who has passed over the hill. Give me AJ and an upside any day over this flogger.

@leichardt99 said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@tigerpower said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

Can someone post the Ivan Cleary article in the SMH about a trade window.
Ivan Cleary calls for trade windows to fix NRL’s ‘messy’ contracting system

Penrith coach Ivan Cleary has advocated for the introduction of trade windows to better regulate the player market, believing the existing free-for-all system is “messy” and creates confusion for players and fans.

The NRL season kicks off in a month and the lead-up has been dominated by speculation about the future of a number of players, despite the fact most are contracted for 2021. The Panthers have been in the spotlight following release requests from Daine Laurie and Matt Burton, two talented players who will struggle to make Cleary’s top 17 when his entire squad is fit.

Laurie was eventually released to Wests Tigers in a player swap that saw Penrith get Paul Momirovski in return, while Canterbury’s attempts to prise Burton out of Penrith a year early – he signed with the Bulldogs from 2022 – have so far been denied.

Another Panther, Josh Mansour, opted to join South Sydney after being informed he wouldn’t be one of the side’s first-choice wingers.

There has also been conjecture all summer about the futures of off-contract stars Jarome Luai, Stephen Crichton and Isaah Yeo, although the club will be in a position to trumpet their retention well before the season starts.

Cleary believes trade windows would provide the game with a commercial opportunity, while also eliminating much of the innuendo that surrounds player movement in a free-market system.

“I just think we can do it better than how we’re doing it at the moment,” Cleary told the Herald.

“I worry about where it’s going to head. Other sports do it and it seems to be successful for them. It creates interest, it creates media, there are plenty of ways how you could package it up.

“Fans can get really involved in the process; it’s like fantasy league, that creates fan interaction and that’s what they are into.

“[Contract] values could be more accurate, recruitment processes would be better and more accurate. It feels like it could be better.

“I don’t have the whole answer, I haven’t looked at it that much, but it’s a bit messy at the moment.”

The Panthers are under no obligation to release Burton, who will provide much-needed depth should first-choice halves Nathan Cleary and Luai be unavailable due to injury or representative commitments. Burton was told from the outset that he wouldn’t be released early and Canterbury haven’t been able to change Penrith’s stance despite offering up at least four different players at various stages in a bid to tempt the Panthers into a swap deal.

The situation is an unnecessary and potentially avoidable distraction for a side attempting to go one better after last year’s grand final appearance. Cleary believes there is a better way.

“You get a lot of situations where guys are confused: ‘Am I going or am I staying? Am I on the market or am I not?’” Cleary said.

“That’s one thing we have tried to do, to be nice and upfront about everything. There’s nothing worse than going out playing and then you pick up the paper and you’re getting shopped.

“The easy thing to say is you wouldn’t be able to police it properly. They used to say that about the salary cap, but they got a lot better at doing that.”

Cleary believes two to three windows a season would give players a smooth transition to a new club if they were struggnrtih Panthers.ling to break into the NRL at their current one.

“You’re probably going to get some teething problems in the first couple [of windows], so it’s important to not just say it doesn’t work and dump it,” he said. “It’s the sort of thing that would become better over time.”

“That’s the one thing we’ve tried to do, be nice and upfront about everything”. That would have to be one of the funniest quotes I’ve heard, coming from an absolute worm of a bloke who doesn’t have a honest bone in his body. Shut your mouth Ivan.

Are there any good financial advisors off-contract in 2021? They need speed, safe under the high ball and be able to pass both sides of their body

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@will1999 said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

kind of don’t want McInnes just will stop Liddle and Simpkin’s development

McInnes was on the extended bench for NSW this year. Would do almost anything to block Liddle’s development tbh, I don’t rate him at all and think the bloke has had enough chances. Everyone wanted grub out when he was constantly injured, that’s the sort of gist I’m getting with Jacob. Have McInnes starting at hooker with him moving to lock mid-game to pave way for Simpkin

I disagree with this completely . Liddle is a weapon . It was clear when he returned , how direct he plays as well as his manipulation around the ruck . He puts his forwards onto the ball, and his ruck deception, creates space for his halves who are close to the ruck , especially on kicking options .
And I haven’t even mentioned the thing everyone notices , his speed and ability to get out .
Grants , passing out of the ruck was bog average in my opinion . We went from one of the teams making the most metres , to one of the teams making the least in 1 season . I think that was the transition from Robbie to grant as much as the forwards shat the bed this year.
Grant is an awesome footballer , I’m not saying he’s not, but Liddle is a better dummy half than grant . Grant is a better footballer .

we conceded double the amount of points mid-way through the season without Grant and having Liddle in the side. I don’t care if you think he’s good, the problem is he’ll do another ACL before the first 10 rounds. Just watch

Poor form basically hoping injury for Liddle. He’s a good young kid who deserves a break injury-wise, I hope he makes you eat your words.

@pawsandclaws1 said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

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@wokesmoke said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@TYGA said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

Adam Douehi is worth no more than 400k, BJ 450k. You could justify 50k more at a stretch.
Not a chance you take either on back ended inflated contracts.If we are talking 600k + walk away now.

I like both but the club has to be sensible and not get desperate. It’s how we ended up with Reynolds, Mbye, Packer on big money.

450k for BJ? Lol. I mean yeah if you could. But you can’t. His metric value is closer to 700k. So yeah 450k won’t happen BUT how good is blind impressions of ones worth

Raiders signed Curtis Scott on a 4 year deal at 400k p.a. He’s 22 and a better centre ask Ricky.

IMO Curtis Scott is not a better centre than BJ and there is no evidence that Ricky thinks he is better. Clearly Ricky thinks he is better value but that is an entirely different thing including his age and salary cap space over time. Also I doubt Scott is on $400K

I think Scott is more consistent than Leilua

Scott may not have the highs of Leilua , but he doesn’t have the shockers that Leilua has either

Scott is the centre we should have purchased. I cannot believe our club is seriously entertaining JL. This must be an all time low. I really question the direction our club is heading if he is
signed

What has Scott shown apart from walloping Dylan Walker? (which is highly commendable by the way). Pretty much zilch. Leilua is twice the player Curtis Scott is. I know which one I’d rather see pull on the WT jersey.

Miss Sunday arvo grand finals, whoever was the “marketing genius” behind switching to a night GF needs a backhander. It has killed off so much of the mystique and allure of GF day for me, there was something special about watching the shadows lengthen across the field as time ebbed away in the most important game of the year…
Miss the players actually having personalities and as such making articles/interviews with them an interesting experience instead of the Cooper Cronk-like dross and dribble of today’s entitled robots.
Loved the old grounds, the picket fence circling North Sydney Oval (miss the Bears!), the old grounds that had a character of their own be it the flint-hard cricket pitches in the middle, the dustbowls and the mudheaps: it all added so much character to the game for me. Compared to the lawn-bowling-green pristine surfaces of today that pretty much get trimmed with scissors.
Hate it the way most of the media around the game today is contracts/players breaking contracts/players wanting to bail out of contracts instead of footy content out on the field over the weekend. It’s just become a monotonous soap-opera with pigs like Hooper, Rothfield, Crowley etc making a great living off lies, innuendo and pathetic gossip instead of quality sports journalism and reporting.
Greatly miss the loyalty factor of yesteryear when blokes like Blocker, Sirro, Benny and Garry Jack were offered barrels of money to defect elsewhere but instead chose loyalty to their mates, their fans and their clubs because they had a real sense of community and not dogging it like some ponces of today: Moses and Matterson spring to mind readily.
As a whole today’s product is not a patch on the way the game was in its heyday (IMO, the late 80’s/early 90’s), but I’m thankful to still have a team to support with passion (although dwindling).

Farewell Jimmy Graham. His stint in the NRL was enjoyable to watch, he was definitely a character and a bloke who gave his all.
Awesome player a few years ago. The brutal way in which he played was bound to take it’s toll.

Blorey, Blorey to Wests Tigers…
Blorey, Blorey to Wests Tigers…
Blorey, Blorey to Wests Tigers…
Wests Tigers marches on!

Welcome aboard young fella, hope you are a Tigers legend in years to come

@pawsandclaws1 said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

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@Tigerstar said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

I wonder if we would consider having woods back? Time heals wounds I’d prefer him over Tamou

I agree, but we need enforcers nor workhorses/metereaters!

Tbh we badly need metre eaters. Also, Tamou is not an enforcer in any way. Never has been.

So which enforcer are we a realistic chance of getting for next season?

I have no idea, but we are getting monstered in the middle. To win games we need our forwards to be making metres in the middle. If that’s an enforcer or a workhorse I don’t really care.

If it were 3 years ago I’d gladly take Tamou. Good defensively and makes 100m+ per game. My concern with him is his age.

If you watch the game, it is the arm grabbing and lack of commitment to drive in with the shoulder. McIntyre and Taylor have great techniques’ Our starting props have homework. In the off season.

McIntyre will grow into a beast. Great defensively…he will be our defensive enforcer in a year or 2. Like the look of him and his progress.

@Balmainian said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

Trade Mbye for Cheese please!

Doesn’t even have to be the actual player, just swap Mbye for a packet of Kraft Singles…we would still come out on the right side of the ledger with that deal.

@tiger5150 said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

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@cairnstigers said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

Who’s this Aloiai bloke people have mentioned

who’s Aloiai?

You guys are spelling it wrong I think

That picture is misleading though…it says ‘seriously good’ on the label.
Edit: sorry Cairnstigers ya beat me to it

@hobbo1 said in Wests Tigers Centre of Excellence:

@fade-to-black said in Wests Tigers Centre of Excellence:

The size of a thumbnail?..could only happen to WT’s. Geez Louise.

Probably some sort of ancient trading chip

Bitcoin.

I wonder if Mbye will take 800k of them as next year’s wages instead?

The size of a thumbnail?..could only happen to WT’s. Geez Louise.

@tiger_fanatic3 said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

As expected, Crichton extends Panthers stay till 2023

Wonder how much he cost them? Considering other clubs were supposedly sniffing around for $750k or thereabouts. Panthers must be running low on cash to re-sign all of their young guns surely? Might be time for an audit.

@hobbo1 said in Drugs, sex, domestic violence: football’s cover-up:

It’s a shame the Burghi infringement won’t feature on highway patrol

It’d need subtitles.

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@tiger_steve said in Robinson committed to rebuilding France footy:

Who cares! French footy might improve if Robinson can get Cummins to ref their games. They seem to have an ‘understanding.’

With the terrible treatment that Rugby League copped in France, I would love to see the game rebuilt over there.

The story is insane . Nazi sympathisers getting the game killed over there for union . God rugby league history has some nefarious stuff go on. I don’t know how you’d make it coherent , but a series about all the cheating , skullduggery , gamesmanship , back alley deals , would be amazing .

Underbelly Rugby League lol

Yea exactly what I was thinking . Even the stuff that went on in 60s and 70s , with the cabal who took over then leading into the 80s, Humphries with his fall from grace , the iron fist and blatant bias towards manly from arko , all the way into SL and beyond . Guys going away on kangaroo tours in the 50s and never coming home. And all the match fixing and brown paper bags of the 80s , that Singo and Elias talked about . Not Benny the other one . It’s crazy , how rich the history is.

Good old John Elias, lol

His book was a pretty good read.

A good offshore location for Unca Nick to launder some dirty salary-cap “offerings” to superstars going forward. Bonjour!

Excuse the ignorance, is it at home base at Concord?

He needed to go from our club, living in the past got us nowhere.
Loved what excitement he brought to the game over the years, he was second to none in that regard.
Would be a shame for him to be part of a Rabbitohs premiership if he felt the need to completely ignore his time with us ala his media mates Ennis and Anasta, Fittler etc.

@tig_prmz said in National anthem:

@mike said in National anthem:

I wish singers would stop trying to put their own interpretation of the National Anthem and just sing it… like this…

100%

Every since I’ve known, national anthems were sung by the entire crowd like this but everyone just starts mumbling coz they don’t know what the singer is going to do.

If you wanna do your own version, then sure go for it and do it in your concert but don’t take away from the feel of the pre-game with extra ooooohhs and aaahhhs just so you can show off your vocal range.

What about some of the rubbish the Yanks have to endure with so-called ‘stars’ butchering their anthem? God Bless 'Murica