@tony-soprano said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:
He seems a good bloke too.
I think madge doesn’t mind a veteran winger and he knows how to pick them (lote).
I think beyond the preconceived opinions of him on here you will find he has more upside than AJ.
All I remember of this bloke is him spruiking “tigers are like a bad ex-girlfriend” because our fans hated Ivan. No thanks to this bloke who has passed over the hill. Give me AJ and an upside any day over this flogger.
Our disallowed try early and Gutherson’s ‘onside’ at the finish both had about the same amount of doubt about them, yet one is pulled up and the other awarded. 12 point swing. Very hard to win close matches without the officials giving you the rub of the green.
Ditto for the ‘not played at’ decision when their bloke knocked it over the sideline after our guy kicked it. Pretty much exact same scenario yesterday was ruled as ‘played at’ by Tariq Sims and Newcastle got the ball back. Lottery-like officiating is head-scratchingly bad.
@leichardt99 said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:
@tigerpower said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:
Can someone post the Ivan Cleary article in the SMH about a trade window.
Ivan Cleary calls for trade windows to fix NRL’s ‘messy’ contracting systemPenrith coach Ivan Cleary has advocated for the introduction of trade windows to better regulate the player market, believing the existing free-for-all system is “messy” and creates confusion for players and fans.
The NRL season kicks off in a month and the lead-up has been dominated by speculation about the future of a number of players, despite the fact most are contracted for 2021. The Panthers have been in the spotlight following release requests from Daine Laurie and Matt Burton, two talented players who will struggle to make Cleary’s top 17 when his entire squad is fit.
Laurie was eventually released to Wests Tigers in a player swap that saw Penrith get Paul Momirovski in return, while Canterbury’s attempts to prise Burton out of Penrith a year early – he signed with the Bulldogs from 2022 – have so far been denied.
Another Panther, Josh Mansour, opted to join South Sydney after being informed he wouldn’t be one of the side’s first-choice wingers.
There has also been conjecture all summer about the futures of off-contract stars Jarome Luai, Stephen Crichton and Isaah Yeo, although the club will be in a position to trumpet their retention well before the season starts.
Cleary believes trade windows would provide the game with a commercial opportunity, while also eliminating much of the innuendo that surrounds player movement in a free-market system.
“I just think we can do it better than how we’re doing it at the moment,” Cleary told the Herald.
“I worry about where it’s going to head. Other sports do it and it seems to be successful for them. It creates interest, it creates media, there are plenty of ways how you could package it up.
“Fans can get really involved in the process; it’s like fantasy league, that creates fan interaction and that’s what they are into.
“[Contract] values could be more accurate, recruitment processes would be better and more accurate. It feels like it could be better.
“I don’t have the whole answer, I haven’t looked at it that much, but it’s a bit messy at the moment.”
The Panthers are under no obligation to release Burton, who will provide much-needed depth should first-choice halves Nathan Cleary and Luai be unavailable due to injury or representative commitments. Burton was told from the outset that he wouldn’t be released early and Canterbury haven’t been able to change Penrith’s stance despite offering up at least four different players at various stages in a bid to tempt the Panthers into a swap deal.
The situation is an unnecessary and potentially avoidable distraction for a side attempting to go one better after last year’s grand final appearance. Cleary believes there is a better way.
“You get a lot of situations where guys are confused: ‘Am I going or am I staying? Am I on the market or am I not?’” Cleary said.
“That’s one thing we have tried to do, to be nice and upfront about everything. There’s nothing worse than going out playing and then you pick up the paper and you’re getting shopped.
“The easy thing to say is you wouldn’t be able to police it properly. They used to say that about the salary cap, but they got a lot better at doing that.”
Cleary believes two to three windows a season would give players a smooth transition to a new club if they were struggnrtih Panthers.ling to break into the NRL at their current one.
“You’re probably going to get some teething problems in the first couple [of windows], so it’s important to not just say it doesn’t work and dump it,” he said. “It’s the sort of thing that would become better over time.”
“That’s the one thing we’ve tried to do, be nice and upfront about everything”. That would have to be one of the funniest quotes I’ve heard, coming from an absolute worm of a bloke who doesn’t have a honest bone in his body. Shut your mouth Ivan.
@voice_of_reason said in Common denominator:
@sabre said in Common denominator:
We haven’t made finals since 2011, surely we have to look at what has been the constant since that time. Brooks and Nofoaluma are the main culprits.
I can understand being critical of a halfback over lack of success but to blame a winger is, well, clutching at straws.
The common denominator may not be what we have, it may be what we’re missing - a strong forward pack, rep players, talented spine, better shapes, speed, mongrel, aggression, etc.
Pride in our performance, hunger, spirit, dedication, passion etc etc to the list. Time after time our club embarrasses itself in meaningful games. That’s what hurts the most as a fan.
Are there any good financial advisors off-contract in 2021? They need speed, safe under the high ball and be able to pass both sides of their body
The officiating is an absolute disgrace. Pretty much every game, every week.
The Warriors v Raiders game today where the Raiders had a successful challenge when their bloke was tackled a few millimetres off the ground which resulted in a mid-air tackle ruling. Yet at the death the ref was happy to let a (at least 2m, but possibly 4m) forward pass go. Thank god RTS was there to shut it down, that was disgraceful refereeing.
On a positive note, RTS ran from close to 50m to pull off that try-saver. What an effort!
@Everything-WT said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:
@Strongee said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:
@Everything-WT said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:
@will1999 said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:
kind of don’t want McInnes just will stop Liddle and Simpkin’s development
McInnes was on the extended bench for NSW this year. Would do almost anything to block Liddle’s development tbh, I don’t rate him at all and think the bloke has had enough chances. Everyone wanted grub out when he was constantly injured, that’s the sort of gist I’m getting with Jacob. Have McInnes starting at hooker with him moving to lock mid-game to pave way for Simpkin
I disagree with this completely . Liddle is a weapon . It was clear when he returned , how direct he plays as well as his manipulation around the ruck . He puts his forwards onto the ball, and his ruck deception, creates space for his halves who are close to the ruck , especially on kicking options .
And I haven’t even mentioned the thing everyone notices , his speed and ability to get out .
Grants , passing out of the ruck was bog average in my opinion . We went from one of the teams making the most metres , to one of the teams making the least in 1 season . I think that was the transition from Robbie to grant as much as the forwards shat the bed this year.
Grant is an awesome footballer , I’m not saying he’s not, but Liddle is a better dummy half than grant . Grant is a better footballer .
we conceded double the amount of points mid-way through the season without Grant and having Liddle in the side. I don’t care if you think he’s good, the problem is he’ll do another ACL before the first 10 rounds. Just watch
Poor form basically hoping injury for Liddle. He’s a good young kid who deserves a break injury-wise, I hope he makes you eat your words.
@izotope said in Gerrard Sutton:
@happy_tiger said in Gerrard Sutton:
@izotope said in Gerrard Sutton:
@happy_tiger said in Gerrard Sutton:
@innsaneink said in Gerrard Sutton:
lil pipsqueak
I must be getting old …again apart from the final call …which was the video ref …I thought we got a pretty even game …maybe I need to see OPSM Monday morning …maybe my tangerine ,balck and white sunnies need replacing
I agree, for once felt the luck run with us.
Feel the latrell kick should of been a penalty however.But he can’t call what he doesn’t see …he was following play 15 metres downfield
Yeah im not blaming Sutton, its the only dud call i remember really in the game
The one where we knocked on, Mansour picked it up, busted 2 tackles, ran 15 metres…then knocked it on and it was ruled ‘no advantage’. We got dudded by the slimy little bastard.
@pawsandclaws1 said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:
@happy_tiger said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:
@Tiger5150 said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:
@TYGA said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:
@wokesmoke said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:
@TYGA said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:
Adam Douehi is worth no more than 400k, BJ 450k. You could justify 50k more at a stretch.
Not a chance you take either on back ended inflated contracts.If we are talking 600k + walk away now.I like both but the club has to be sensible and not get desperate. It’s how we ended up with Reynolds, Mbye, Packer on big money.
450k for BJ? Lol. I mean yeah if you could. But you can’t. His metric value is closer to 700k. So yeah 450k won’t happen BUT how good is blind impressions of ones worth
Raiders signed Curtis Scott on a 4 year deal at 400k p.a. He’s 22 and a better centre ask Ricky.
IMO Curtis Scott is not a better centre than BJ and there is no evidence that Ricky thinks he is better. Clearly Ricky thinks he is better value but that is an entirely different thing including his age and salary cap space over time. Also I doubt Scott is on $400K
I think Scott is more consistent than Leilua
Scott may not have the highs of Leilua , but he doesn’t have the shockers that Leilua has either
Scott is the centre we should have purchased. I cannot believe our club is seriously entertaining JL. This must be an all time low. I really question the direction our club is heading if he is
signed
What has Scott shown apart from walloping Dylan Walker? (which is highly commendable by the way). Pretty much zilch. Leilua is twice the player Curtis Scott is. I know which one I’d rather see pull on the WT jersey.
Farewell Jimmy Graham. His stint in the NRL was enjoyable to watch, he was definitely a character and a bloke who gave his all.
Awesome player a few years ago. The brutal way in which he played was bound to take it’s toll.
@balmainjnr said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:
@cochise said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:
@frullens said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:
Channel 9 interview
https://www.instagram.com/tv/CQOMCEtHjOT/?utm_medium=copy_link
Feel a little for him, he obviously doesn’t want to leave.
Freddie sure loves being sanctimonious at times.
Yep, what a knob. Would be almost worth seeing NSW lose this year’s series to accelerate the sacking of Fittler.
Not sure what he saw wrong in what TPJ said in that interview.
@the_third said in Pangai Junior:
@fade-to-black said in Pangai Junior:
@hodgo said in Pangai Junior:
its mind-blowing that people supporters dont want him. The other team to throw their hat in the ring is the roosters but hey he isnt good enough for our fans lol
Nothing to do with him not being good enough. More to do with the huge risk of signing someone on big money who has form at being a liability with his ill-discipline on-field for me.
JWH has had a great run at the Roosters of repeatedly getting off charges at the judiciary, the Roosters would be banking on producing the same ‘magic’ with TPJ if he signed with them instead of us.
Would be willing to bet that TPJ will spend a heap of time on the sidelines through suspension if he joins WT.hes on big money but we won’t be paying it all. so that makes him value
If he’s watching from the sidelines it won’t be much value.
If he does sign hopefully he absolutely kills it for our club for sure. There is a huge risk it could turn into a disaster signing as well. We’ll see how it all plays out.
@cairnstigers said in Pangai Junior:
@spartan117 said in Pangai Junior:
Tigers or Roosters is the word
If you were Pangai, where would you go if $ isn’t the issue
Besides Cordners $ are available
But I don’t think he is a Roosters Signing
I think they would be after a Sua or cheese type of player
Roosters could well manage to have TPJ, Su’a and Cheese all in their colours next year. Wouldn’t surprise one bit with the monopoly money they use for their salary cap dealings.
@hodgo said in Pangai Junior:
its mind-blowing that people supporters dont want him. The other team to throw their hat in the ring is the roosters but hey he isnt good enough for our fans lol
Nothing to do with him not being good enough. More to do with the huge risk of signing someone on big money who has form at being a liability with his ill-discipline on-field for me.
JWH has had a great run at the Roosters of repeatedly getting off charges at the judiciary, the Roosters would be banking on producing the same ‘magic’ with TPJ if he signed with them instead of us.
Would be willing to bet that TPJ will spend a heap of time on the sidelines through suspension if he joins WT.
IMO he would be a dud signing, especially for the pretty large chunk of money he is going to cost (even though Brisbane will subsidise his wage to an extent). A bloke who plays 2 good games a season going by his career so far. Wrong type of signing for our club, we need blokes that play 8/10 every week on a consistent basis, not someone that will play the odd 9/10 game followed by a heap of 3/10 ones. A leader who will inspire with work ethic, not some bloke who gets off hanging with bikies in his spare time.
Granted he is a relatively big-name signing but I’ve got a feeling if it goes ahead we will be talking about TPJ in the same vain as Packer, Reynolds, Ballin etc.
He lacks discipline on the field, he will be seeing plenty of time on the sidelines with the new-found crackdown on anything touching the head. He got put on report for the crusher on Murray tonight didn’t he? Prior offences are going to add up to be a big anchor around his neck at the judiciary in the years to come without a doubt.
If he does come to our club I would love to be proven wrong but IMO he’s not a great fit for our club.
Not to mention why are the Broncos, possibly back-to-back wooden spooners, offloading him if he is a supposed asset?
@851 said in Roberts eager for challenge:
@innsaneink said in Roberts eager for challenge:
James Roberts’ future is far from settled. The 28-year-old joined the Wests Tigers this season on a two-year deal, but the second season is in the club’s favour.
A shoulder injury has hampered Roberts this year, he’s played nine of a possible 14 games for the Tigers. But he is hopeful he has done enough to “finish off” his career at Concord.
“I love the club, it’s been really good,” Roberts told reporters on Wednesday.
“There’s a really good group of lads here and I’m close to a lot of them.
“I’m enjoying my time here and not really thinking about the future at all. I’ve been showing up to training and having fun, enjoying myself, so whatever happens, happens.
“I’d love to stay and finish off here, to be honest. But anything can happen in this game.”
Roberts is yet to hear from the club on whether they will activate the option to keep him for the 2022 season.
At the $150k we are paying him, it is a no brainer to keep him on, I still say if he is played at right centre and given good ball, he will be a huge asset, as yet for whatever reason this hasn’t happened
Yep, he is good value at that price.
Think it was the fool Rothfield on 360 who said something like “WT might well want to keep him but not on the kind of dollars he is on now”. Alcohol-embalmed gibberer.
@truetiger said in Roberts eager for challenge:
Lets not forget that JTJ had major mental issues,since coming to us he has applied himself to the indigenous group,he has done everything that Madge has asked of him,he speaks highly of our club and he is an origin player that has NOT been given ball and space…lets not condemn a man for at least turning up everyday,helping young guys understand NRL and putting the club first and foremost…
JTJ is a very talented man,his credentials are second to none…
‘‘Let he was not sinned cast the first stone’’
give him next year …it would only be fair to a bloke who has made an effort to turn his life around…
Well said. He is no doubt having a go, win or lose. Same can’t be said for quite a few others in our club.
@geo said in NRL Last Man Standing 2021..:
@fade-to-black said in NRL Last Man Standing 2021..:
Damn it, bit late. Would’ve gone Panthers
Is fine…
Good onya mate. Thanks
@isaaktigers said in Huni v Gallen:
@gnr4life said in Huni v Gallen:
@isaaktigers said in Huni v Gallen:
Does the VIPBOX still work?
That’s long gone
Watched the UFC on Sunday and the Mayweather fight on it not long ago
Is that a yes?