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From NRL.com re Panthers next game: “Meanwhile, the Panthers have lost Zane Tetevano to a back complaint for Saturday night’s clash with Spencer Leniu in line to make his first appearance of the season.”

Hopefully, Zane injured himself ironing out McIntyre last week. Poetic justice.

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@kiwitiger said in Stefano Utoikamanu:

is our off season so intense and impressive that we turn players careers around.

I take your point, but he has done a pretty good job with Matterson and Luciano. He has also turned Harry Grant into an 80 minute player. Possibly none of this has anything to do with Madge. But, then again …

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It’s not really realistic for me to select a team when there are so many unknowns.

We don’t know if Seyfarth and Lucy will be available, for example.

Added to that I haven’t seen any of the young guys play this year. Hoffman is a possibility at centre or wing, but I’ve never seen him play.

Bradley is an option at wing, but from what I saw last year, he didn’t look ready for the NRL. Perhaps he has developed well in the meantime.

I prefer selecting players in their proper positions, so that if Talau is to replace BJ, then I would prefer Bradley on the wing. If, on the other hand, Talau stays on the wing, then I’d pick Hoffman at centre (assuming he can play on the right and he is ready to debut).

Too many unknowns for me to hazard a guess.

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@pawsandclaws1 said in Would you drop BJ?:

The fact that a high shot is accidental is irrelevant. His swinging arm made contact with the head and forced one of our best forwards off the field. The player should be suspended?

The NRL make a big song and dance about protecting the head of the players. Yet when a player is laid out they make a subjective distinction between whether the hit was intentional and accidental, which is often an unrealistic distinction.

By that I mean that a players tackling style is often predicated on the fact that if they hit the their opponent in the head they will be excused because it was “accidental”, so they have no need to modify their tackling style to minimise the risk of an accidental high-shot.

The difference between Rugby and NRL is stark in this regard. I no longer watch Rugby (too boring) but I get the impression that both Tetevano and Koroisau would have been sent off for their high shots in a Rugby - “accidental” just doesn’t cut it. As a consequence one rarely sees “accidental” high shots in that code.

By contrast, NRL is very permissive in this regard. For example, last night on NRL 360 it was agreed that Koroisau’s hit on Lucy was “innocuous”.

Things will never change while NRL journalists and supporters have this type of “macho” attitudes to high shots.

The NRL talks the talk, but that’s all it is - talk !

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@cochise said in Never been so proud:

@fibrodreaming said in Never been so proud:

@cochise said in Never been so proud:

@fibrodreaming said in Never been so proud:

@cochise said in Never been so proud:

Panthers were a class above

Just how classy are Penrith ?

I would have thought that with the flow of penalties, all the field position and 2 of our forwards off for HIA, they should have put us away more convincingly than that.

I don’t want to detract from our team’s performance, but I didn’t think Penrith threw a lot at us. It was an arm wrestle for the bulk of the match and they wore us down, with some assistance from the officials.

Mate we were fighting the majority of the game to stay in the match, our defence was amazing. When the game was there to be won, the panthers worked their way down the field to set up the field goal that they were never going to miss. At the same time we started giving away silly penalties to put their class players in a position to win the game. Say what you want about Cleary but 2 years in a row when the game was there to be won he has put us to the sword and handles the pressure 100 times better than our players do. That is class and that is what we are lacking.

I guess we are talking at cross purposes.

For me, a classy team, which has 55% of the ball and twice the penalties, doesn’t need a field goal to put themselves ahead towards the end. My definition of a classy team is one that would be, under those circumstances, out of sight at the back end of the match.

Depends on the game mate, we gave it to the Panthers last night. We were tough, physical and put them off their game, this happens to all teams at time. The class teams fight through that and when it is time for the game to be won, they control the game and dictate the outcome through their playmakers. That is what Penrith did last night.

We are operating on different definitions of “class”.

What you call class, I call execution, or professionalism.

For me, class is, for example, Billy Slater chipping over the NSW backline, regathering and then chipping over the full back, regathering and scoring. That’s class !

The Pennies, getting a string of penalties and positioning Roger Ramjet to drop a field goal from in front is execution.

Like I said, in my view, the Panthers didn’t throw too much at us last night.

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@cochise said in Never been so proud:

@fibrodreaming said in Never been so proud:

@cochise said in Never been so proud:

Panthers were a class above

Just how classy are Penrith ?

I would have thought that with the flow of penalties, all the field position and 2 of our forwards off for HIA, they should have put us away more convincingly than that.

I don’t want to detract from our team’s performance, but I didn’t think Penrith threw a lot at us. It was an arm wrestle for the bulk of the match and they wore us down, with some assistance from the officials.

Mate we were fighting the majority of the game to stay in the match, our defence was amazing. When the game was there to be won, the panthers worked their way down the field to set up the field goal that they were never going to miss. At the same time we started giving away silly penalties to put their class players in a position to win the game. Say what you want about Cleary but 2 years in a row when the game was there to be won he has put us to the sword and handles the pressure 100 times better than our players do. That is class and that is what we are lacking.

I guess we are talking at cross purposes.

For me, a classy team, which has 55% of the ball and twice the penalties, doesn’t need a field goal to put themselves ahead towards the end. My definition of a classy team is one that would be, under those circumstances, out of sight at the back end of the match.

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@cochise said in Never been so proud:

Panthers were a class above

Just how classy are Penrith ?

I would have thought that with the flow of penalties, all the field position and 2 of our forwards off for HIA, they should have put us away more convincingly than that.

I don’t want to detract from our team’s performance, but I didn’t think Penrith threw a lot at us. It was an arm wrestle for the bulk of the match and they wore us down, with some assistance from the officials.

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Perhaps the Mods could consider creating a permanent “Brooks Bashing” thread, like the Signing Suggestions and Rumours thread.

It would save our members creating a new thread each week.

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