@Tiger_Steve said in Cummins and the Nrl are a joke.:
@TigersBusDriver said in Cummins and the Nrl are a joke.:
Injuries and incompetent refereeing have ruined our chances for the 8 this year.
Don’t forget our consistent unforced error count. Every week we shoot ourselves in the foot with stupid errors. Every week!
Fatigue from Injuries and 5-0 penalty counts?
@JoshColeman99 said in We need a new captain:
@Furious1 said in We need a new captain:
@JoshColeman99 said in We need a new captain:
Changing who has the C next to their name literally won’t change anything. Everyone will still talk just as much as they do now. More important things to worry about
Disagree mate. An effective captain can have a massive impact. The greatest captain of all time is living proof down at the Storm. He is a leader, not like our church mouse.
If Cameron Smith wasn’t captain he would be just as good and talk just as much and do everything he already does.
Putting the C next to someone’s name doesn’t change how they are or what they do. You give it to someone who’s already a leader and a talker which the team benefits from regardless of who’s captain
I know where your coming from but again I disagree. If Smith isn’t capt the refs tell him to piss off, his influence is solely restricted to playing and talking to team mates not pressuring refs for favourable outcomes
@JoshColeman99 said in We need a new captain:
Changing who has the C next to their name literally won’t change anything. Everyone will still talk just as much as they do now. More important things to worry about
Disagree mate. An effective captain can have a massive impact. The greatest captain of all time is living proof down at the Storm. He is a leader, not like our church mouse.
I always thought Leilua was hard done by. Yes it was stupidity, but the force used was minimal. Edwards took a dive and miraculously jumped back to his feet when the penalty was awarded and melee took place. Didn’t even need a HIA. A week or 2 for stupidity was warranted.
Mitchell on the other hand let fly with intent. Sure he may have been reacting but Bj’s was based on emotion also. If Bj’s was worth 4 surely Mitchell gets the same, and thats for this offence only, there were others from him that should be under scrutiny too.
Hate to say it this early but ref thinks we are the only team breaking rules here
Every time Mitchell plays us he tears us a new one. Let’s hope those days are over.
On form this year Nofo is in the top couple of wingers in the comp. He has been enormous for us in the last month.
@GNR4LIFE said in Wests Tigers Team v Souths Rd 9:
This isn’t going to be the Herculean effort some of you lot are making it to be. We aren’t playing the Roosters. Our pack is solid, the spine is in tact. And we’re playing the comp’s number 1 flat track bullies. They are beatable.
Agreed. We are under strength, but I still expect to win.
@OzLuke said in Politics Super Thread - keep it all in here:
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@TrueTiger said in Politics Super Thread - keep it all in here:
I have been steering clear of giving my opinion in regard to the BLM movement in case some take offence to what I say but here goes…
I read today that Patty Mills the NBA star who plays for Orlando in USA,has donated the rest of this seasons salary to the BLM in Australia he is an indigenous player…
Its his money and he can give it to whoever he wants,but here is my input and what I would do if I was in his position of earning what he does and can donate what he does,I have said many times that the children in Westmead who are undergoing treatment for numerous types of cancer are given a chance to overcome the illness and get a chance at life itself…the research is ongoing and needs much money to keep finding new treatments and cures,thats what I would donate to…
In having said that,the BLM is about black deaths in custody,this is where some will take offence,it is of my opinion if you are in custody or incarcerated then you must have done something wrong to be in that position irrespective of drugs.murder,rape or home invasion…all of these are wrong…
If a person is killed in custody or murdered by a police officer than it must be investigated and treated justifiably …for the officer to have done that then he must have had a reason which we could argue all day about…however my whole point is that the children in Westmead are trying to survive a life threatening disease,their lives are still infront of them…
Blacks,Whites,Yellow,Green or what ever colour that are in custody are old enough to know whats right and whats wrong especially if they are 18 and older,Im not talking about minors in this example…
My whole point is if BLM get all this donated money why don’t they spend it on educating and helping the Black community to stay OUT OF CUSTODY and on the right side of the law???
I still would put my resources into helping the children not someone of any colour to get out of trouble when they have got there themselves…Problem is Zig when a movement gets too large it’s scope increases with it. The BLM movement is the sum of it’s parts. Some within the movement call for the defunding of police, others just want cops who kill without restraint prosecuted. Any large decentralised movement without structured leadership will wind up having conflicting goals. The other issue with popular movements is they have slogans and an overarching goal, but little idea of how to achieve it.
For example, I am generally opposed to any environmental policy that is considered “anti-climate change.” We saw a range of people march, kids strike from school etc in order to make a statement about action on climate change. Ask a large range of those people how they would go about achieving it, and they wouldn’t be able to answer. Making minimum solar requirements a part of BASIX laws (and whatever comparative relevant interstate legislation,) an end to coal subsidy, institution of plantations to make up lost bushland in the Sydney basin, imposition of synthetic refrigerant tariffs based on GWP are just some ideas on how I think it should be tackled. I think there’s huge potential for Australia to become an solar energy farm for South East Asia. Free power for Australia, and exportation to China and India for a price. That would reduce running costs for manufacturing in Australia which could also see a return of a local industry. A large solar industry would require more skilled tradespeople as well increasing jobs.
Also, regarding education of black children, read into the community programmes the Black Panther party instituted in the US and the lengths that the Hoover led CIA went to squash it. Community education programmes, feeding kids breakfast etc, all these were deemed as internal security threats. There has been a lot of horrific treatment of black Americans, especially when they just tried to better themselves and pull themselves up by their bootstraps.
I completely see your points CB,however I would just like to mention in regard to our indigenous people and step aside from US black community for a moment,when I was in Wagga playing football and working I had numerous indigenous friends,there was also a lot of indigenous people in special housing sections in Wagga just for the indigenous community who couldn’t afford housing…
Some of these houses were trashed,broken into and some set fire to,now why would you do that if you were a person that respected that you were given something that you didn’t have to earn,by the whole of the community not just indigenous.?
The other example I will give …a man mowed his lawn in one of the suburbs,he washed his mower and left it out in his front yard to dry and went in for a cold drink,as he came out he found 4 indigenous people taking his mower and driving off with it ,he got the rego and rang the police,he was told to go to the indigenous admin centre and make a complaint …
the answer he was given is this"“how much is your mower worth”"he said about $400,then and there they wrote him out a cheque for that amount and said "here you are go buy a new one…
there was no offer to penalise the offenders and the police had to refer him to the indigenous admin for them to handle it…there in lies some of the problem,the police couldn’t even prosecute because they were indigenous…so this is where a lot of the problems arise…It goes to show generations of government simply sweeping the problem under the rug by simply throwing money at it, instead of investing in legitimate generational change through positive action.
Exactly. I’m all for doing whatever we can, but, clearly throwing money at it over and over hasn’t worked. In the end, if you don’t want to help yourself, nobody else can help you. The problem is how do you get people to help themselves? ( any colour)