@Harvey said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@TYGA heard there is a video doing the rounds that could end Nathan Cleary’s career

His highlight reel?

'Not acceptable ’

Music to my ears. Refused to wrap any player, refused to blame the 2 hia’s, refused to say the second half was good.

We’re on the right guy here.

@avocadoontoast said in Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion:

Bloke on twitter who said Latrell was coming to WT a couple of weeks ago saying Pascoe had a three way with LM and JAC last night (I assume he means a phone call, not the other thing).

Whatever it takes Avo

I thought Packer walked out about 2 years ago.

I think its great. Would be great if they can keep the tradition alive much like Newtown and Norths.

She’s probaby right. But who cares if he’s lost them? 2/3rds are rubbish players.

Well, if it’s true, then kudos to Pascoe for telling them to piss off.

@Curly_Tiger said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@hsvjones said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

So was hoping for an announcement/s today so we can clear the air before preseason next week… Wanted to hear we have signed JO, Released JA and maybe anther player… But oh well at least we are doing something and making some smart recruitment decisions.

I was hoping for a Russell Packer medical retirement and for Josh Reynolds to go to the UK with Hodgo

You may say I’m a dreamer…

Your not the only one

Nope, send him out on style.

@jirskyr said in Mediocrity - Accepting It/Not Accepting It:

@Tiger_Bond said in Mediocrity - Accepting It/Not Accepting It:

As one of the great minds in recent history stated:

“Great spirits have always encountered opposition from mediocre minds. The mediocre mind is incapable of understanding the man who refuses to bow blindly to conventional prejudices and chooses instead to express his opinions courageously and honestly.”

Albert Einstein

Yeah but your opinion carries no weight. Compare this to politics, where you at least get a non-financial vote and everyone gets a small say.

Complainers on the forum - go for your lives, we all do it in one way or another, then get called up on it by disagree-ers. This place is 99% no-impact debate, as GNR said it’s a coping mechanism for following sport, esp if your family and friends are not league followers. This is not the Roman Senate!

The only way for supporters to truly influence is to vote with their wallets, en masse. But that’s a very fuzzy signal for club management - exactly why are memberships and tickets declining? Team doesn’t win enough? Consistently bad weather? Disenchantment with the product? Some of the most successful teams have horrid crowds and memberships, so there’s not a 1:1 correlation between success and support.

Ultimately all sport is entertainment with no guarantee of quality or outcome. You pay to watch footy, to get a seat and be assured the match will run 80 minutes. You pay for some drama, some excitement. The quality or outcome is independent of the individual supporter dollar. Unlike visual media like TV or film, sports teams actively must defeat each other - it is explicit in the design. Therefore there will always be winners and losers; it is impossible for everyone to have a fair go or even chance every single time.

Also quite unlike other entertainment, sport is mostly tribal. Most people don’t enjoy sport as much if they are indifferent to the outcome. Even when your team / player isn’t on, most sports fans still have a leaning towards one side or another. You are paying your money because you have invested in the club tribe, probably since birth. You are literally indoctrinated. You keep doing it because it’s a very powerful social function that you inherited from your ancestors; being in a tribe is an ancient life-preserving strategy.

From an abstract, clinical POV, sports viewership has no tangible outcome - you can’t hold a premiership, you can’t sell a “victory”, you can’t eat “on-field success”. It simply exists to satisfy some biological urges - the urge to compete, the urge for a physical contest, the urge to alleviate boredom, the urge to be part of a tribe. You might be unhappy, but you don’t die or starve without sport.

In fact there are very many people who have no idea why you care so much about sport. Those people are of course idiots, because 99.99% of people care about something intangible, whether it be fashion, art, literature, video games, religion etc.

But GNR is totally right - “mediocrity” is a subjective term. Supporters sit right across the spectrum and have different feelings about their team and what they can or cannot accept. Personally, I accepted a long time ago that I would support Balmain and then Wests until my last breath. I was a teenager during the lean 90s and if I was ever going to give up, that was the time it would have happened. Nothing in the last 20 years of Wests Tigers is remotely as bad as circa 1994. I still remember, clear as day, entire seasons where I knew Tigers would struggle to beat anyone, even Magpies or Gold Coast. I remember how little anyone cared about Balmain during the Super League War. Compared to then, Wests Tigers are a much much better weekly prospect - hell people get upset when we fail to beat the reigning premiers!!!

Right now, my wife doesn’t care and my kids are little, but many of my family and friends follow Tigers, so it still has real shared satisfaction for us. The tribal element is strong. The product IMO is good - I’ve watched a fair amount of “classic” matches and if you reckon it was “better back in the day”, then frankly I think you are operating almost entirely on nostalgia. The physical capacity and skill of modern players is unparalleled in history, as is the experience for at-game and remote supporters, plus the access to the game and game-related media.

I know Tigers are less likely to win than other clubs, and in some ways it makes September a little easier to watch. It also makes the 44% wins satisfying in a way that Storm fans can’t understand.

Could you expand on that?

@bigscreentv said in Ultimately it is the D...and it is on Madge...:

Tuki isn’t the most mobile of backrowers.

I found it interesting how the commentary team heaped praise over Mitchell with this fun put of the in goal area. He didn’t really evade anyone! Talau just missed him!

God knows how you miss a bloke standing still.

@thedaboss said in Kepaoa:

@gallagher said in Kepaoa:

@thedaboss said in Kepaoa:

Best performance yet in a tigers jersey

centre is definitely his best position

hopefully he isn’t injured to bad

Your profile pic sucks. I keep thinking the thread is loading

thats the point of it

Evil bastard

@thedaboss said in Kepaoa:

Best performance yet in a tigers jersey

centre is definitely his best position

hopefully he isn’t injured to bad

Your profile pic sucks. I keep thinking the thread is loading

@rah53 said in Proud of that:

@gallagher said in Proud of that:

@snake said in Proud of that:

@gallagher said in Proud of that:

@seant said in Proud of that:

@sabre said in Proud of that:

80min+ effort. Never gave up on the game.
We play like that every week and we win more than we lose.

But we dont. The past ten years we play a decent game then 3 ordinary ones.

Until they are consistent we wont make the finals.

Yeah, nothing proud about turning up for your wage once every 6 weeks.

The players can actually put there hand out and not feel guilty for once .

Pretty sad when fans are proud about the players just turning up. Such ambition.

Souths are 1 of the competition favourites, and that went to golden point, compared to the abomination that happened last week. Why can’t we be proud?

Not saying you cant. Same garbage every year though. I’m not proud of guys who turn up every 6 weeks.

@thedaboss said in Proud of that:

@gallagher said in Proud of that:

@snake said in Proud of that:

@gallagher said in Proud of that:

@seant said in Proud of that:

@sabre said in Proud of that:

80min+ effort. Never gave up on the game.
We play like that every week and we win more than we lose.

But we dont. The past ten years we play a decent game then 3 ordinary ones.

Until they are consistent we wont make the finals.

Yeah, nothing proud about turning up for your wage once every 6 weeks.

The players can actually put there hand out and not feel guilty for once .

Pretty sad when fans are proud about the players just turning up. Such ambition.

you been pretty negative lately mate… can u at least agree that sutton is a cockl

Agreed.

@snake said in Proud of that:

@gallagher said in Proud of that:

@seant said in Proud of that:

@sabre said in Proud of that:

80min+ effort. Never gave up on the game.
We play like that every week and we win more than we lose.

But we dont. The past ten years we play a decent game then 3 ordinary ones.

Until they are consistent we wont make the finals.

Yeah, nothing proud about turning up for your wage once every 6 weeks.

The players can actually put there hand out and not feel guilty for once .

Pretty sad when fans are proud about the players just turning up. Such ambition.

@seant said in Proud of that:

@sabre said in Proud of that:

80min+ effort. Never gave up on the game.
We play like that every week and we win more than we lose.

But we dont. The past ten years we play a decent game then 3 ordinary ones.

Until they are consistent we wont make the finals.

Yeah, nothing proud about turning up for your wage once every 6 weeks.

@jd-tiger said in Live Game Thread *Spoilers*:

lol Ref made up that rule.

He called six again, fine, but then we stripped it, and he said, no you can’t have the ball, penalty.

He said we were all offside from the scrum

Super try

Undisciplined. I fear for Madge