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@Jedi_Tiger said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

any truth to the rumour we are signing benji for one year and letting walters go to broncos

Hard to imagine a more stupid turn of events if true

‘Life’s not all about money’: Benji Marshall opens up on future
By Zachary Gates
2 hours ago

Legendary playmaker Benji Marshall has spoken for the first time since knocking back a monster pay deal with Super League club Hull FC, declaring “life’s not all about money”. Hopes of Marshall’s illustrious NRL career ending on a fairytale note at Wests Tigers were dashed when coach Michael Maguire in August told him he wouldn’t be offered a contract for 2021.

And while the 2005 premiership hero was reportedly in talks to join the North Queensland Cowboys on a $150,000 contract, and later Hull on a blockbuster $722,000 deal, neither agreement eventuated. Marshall said he had opted to prioritise family over money. “Life’s not all about money and when I thought about the pros and cons, the pros were just about the money,” Marshall told Triple M. "If it was about the money I probably would’ve retired five years ago. "

Good luck Benji your not missed and its not about the $.
Culture is already looking better at WT without having a sook around the team.

When you think Wests Tigers, you think Benji Marshall and vice versa it’s as simple as that… and I don’t see that changing anytime soon

Yes he’s not the player he once was, but that doesn’t mean we should disrespect the greatest player in the clubs history whom had put this team on the map leading us to our first and only premiership, more so respect his decision to wanna play on and wish him all the best and cherish the memories he had once demonstrated at this team and give him the respect he deserves and allow him to do whatever he wishes as we owe him that at the very least wouldn’t you think, I don’t understand why everyone’s so bothered about him believing in himself that he can play another season, it has no barring on us whatsoever if he plays on somewhere else to try further his legacy that’s fine, for all he has done for this club we should support a club legends aspirations not put him down…

I’m not upset we didn’t re-sign benji, I personally think it was the correct decision in terms of this club moving forward however I do think he deserves to be respected and appreciated for the things he has done for this great club, and should be able to make whatever decision he thinks is right for himself and be supported by us fans

Think what you like its your choice, we all have our own thoughts, second time round one things why ask him to come back he never developed any players it was all about him.

I wished him all the best, he was a sook that’s not being disrespectful just stating the facts on how he left.

I think you will find he has rubbed a lot of long term supporters the wrong way not only how he left this time but also the prior time as well. Maybe you don’t recall history but he was one of the main instigators in having Sheens removed then the following season did not see out his contract and went to play rugby union.

Herald Sun - 18/07/2013

BENJI Marshall has walked out on the Wests Tigers _ but wants a return to the club in coming years.

Marshall posted a four minute video on the club’s website today revealing why he made the contentious decision to quit.

“It’s been a hard time for myself and my family but as you all know I have made my decision to move on from the club at the end of this year. It was probably the hardest decision I have had to make,” Marshall said.

"I feel like I have done everything in the game at this club, including winning a premiership, representing my country, captaining my country, winning a Four Nations, winning a World Cup and winning the Golden Boot. Without (the fans) support, a lot of that couldn’t have been achieved.

"I feel like I am the person I am today based upon what I have done at this club. At the end of the day, my decision was based on what was best for myself and my family. Not only that but what was best for the club also.

"I know some people won’t be happy but some will be happy to see me go. That’s life, rugby league is a game and the club is bigger than me.

"I will honour my words about not playing for another (NRL) club. There is no other NRL club for me to play for. The Tigers are my home and will always be my home.

“I have seen guys like Mark O’Neill leave, go to England and then come back to the club. I am hoping to do the same in some capacity after I retire, maybe be involved with the club. Hopefully get back into it somewhere.”

Marshall said he was not angry at the club.

“There is no hard feeling between myself or the club,” he said.

"A the end of they day they did what they thought they could in the (salary) cap to keep me but this decision goes far further beyond than money.

“If it was in the past I could have take more money to go elsewhere. I feel like I have given my life to the club. Eleven years is a long time. I will never forget the years I had here.”

Well he did not play for another club but more than one, was given a lifeline to come back, Madge selected him also to play for NZ after 7 years being exiled.

Lastly 2005 was not all about Marshall there is no i in Team.
Agree Marshall will be remembered for being a great player for the Tigers but he will also now be remembered for being someone that wanted to play on too long as should have retired back in 2018.

Say what you like about him does not take away from the fact
he is the greatest player to have played for west’s tigers

Of course it’s all Marshall’s fault,all the points we are leaking the try’s we are scoring.Its all on Marshall some of you have blinkers on

The type of players you try to recruit when you can’t recruit

@AJ1 said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

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@Tigerbuck63 said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@teddy23 said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@Tigerbuck63 said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@Newtown said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@avocadoontoast said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@Jedi_Tiger said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

any truth to the rumour we are signing benji for one year and letting walters go to broncos

Hard to imagine a more stupid turn of events if true

‘Life’s not all about money’: Benji Marshall opens up on future
By Zachary Gates
2 hours ago

Legendary playmaker Benji Marshall has spoken for the first time since knocking back a monster pay deal with Super League club Hull FC, declaring “life’s not all about money”. Hopes of Marshall’s illustrious NRL career ending on a fairytale note at Wests Tigers were dashed when coach Michael Maguire in August told him he wouldn’t be offered a contract for 2021.

And while the 2005 premiership hero was reportedly in talks to join the North Queensland Cowboys on a $150,000 contract, and later Hull on a blockbuster $722,000 deal, neither agreement eventuated. Marshall said he had opted to prioritise family over money. “Life’s not all about money and when I thought about the pros and cons, the pros were just about the money,” Marshall told Triple M. "If it was about the money I probably would’ve retired five years ago. "

Good luck Benji your not missed and its not about the $.
Culture is already looking better at WT without having a sook around the team.

When you think Wests Tigers, you think Benji Marshall and vice versa it’s as simple as that… and I don’t see that changing anytime soon

Yes he’s not the player he once was, but that doesn’t mean we should disrespect the greatest player in the clubs history whom had put this team on the map leading us to our first and only premiership, more so respect his decision to wanna play on and wish him all the best and cherish the memories he had once demonstrated at this team and give him the respect he deserves and allow him to do whatever he wishes as we owe him that at the very least wouldn’t you think, I don’t understand why everyone’s so bothered about him believing in himself that he can play another season, it has no barring on us whatsoever if he plays on somewhere else to try further his legacy that’s fine, for all he has done for this club we should support a club legends aspirations not put him down…

I’m not upset we didn’t re-sign benji, I personally think it was the correct decision in terms of this club moving forward however I do think he deserves to be respected and appreciated for the things he has done for this great club, and should be able to make whatever decision he thinks is right for himself and be supported by us fans

Think what you like its your choice, we all have our own thoughts, second time round one things why ask him to come back he never developed any players it was all about him.

I wished him all the best, he was a sook that’s not being disrespectful just stating the facts on how he left.

I think you will find he has rubbed a lot of long term supporters the wrong way not only how he left this time but also the prior time as well. Maybe you don’t recall history but he was one of the main instigators in having Sheens removed then the following season did not see out his contract and went to play rugby union.

Herald Sun - 18/07/2013

BENJI Marshall has walked out on the Wests Tigers _ but wants a return to the club in coming years.

Marshall posted a four minute video on the club’s website today revealing why he made the contentious decision to quit.

“It’s been a hard time for myself and my family but as you all know I have made my decision to move on from the club at the end of this year. It was probably the hardest decision I have had to make,” Marshall said.

"I feel like I have done everything in the game at this club, including winning a premiership, representing my country, captaining my country, winning a Four Nations, winning a World Cup and winning the Golden Boot. Without (the fans) support, a lot of that couldn’t have been achieved.

"I feel like I am the person I am today based upon what I have done at this club. At the end of the day, my decision was based on what was best for myself and my family. Not only that but what was best for the club also.

"I know some people won’t be happy but some will be happy to see me go. That’s life, rugby league is a game and the club is bigger than me.

"I will honour my words about not playing for another (NRL) club. There is no other NRL club for me to play for. The Tigers are my home and will always be my home.

“I have seen guys like Mark O’Neill leave, go to England and then come back to the club. I am hoping to do the same in some capacity after I retire, maybe be involved with the club. Hopefully get back into it somewhere.”

Marshall said he was not angry at the club.

“There is no hard feeling between myself or the club,” he said.

"A the end of they day they did what they thought they could in the (salary) cap to keep me but this decision goes far further beyond than money.

“If it was in the past I could have take more money to go elsewhere. I feel like I have given my life to the club. Eleven years is a long time. I will never forget the years I had here.”

Well he did not play for another club but more than one, was given a lifeline to come back, Madge selected him also to play for NZ after 7 years being exiled.

Lastly 2005 was not all about Marshall there is no i in Team.
Agree Marshall will be remembered for being a great player for the Tigers but he will also now be remembered for being someone that wanted to play on too long as should have retired back in 2018.

Say what you like about him does not take away from the fact
he is the greatest player to have played for west’s tigers

Tedesco says hi

Mate Tedesco is a dog who turned he’s back on the club after we stood by him after 2 bad injuries. He left as he was about to reach his peak so no he is nowhere near our best

@steve-o said in The next two weeks....:

@goanna57 said in The next two weeks....:

@steve-o said in The next two weeks....:

Rabbitohs are pretenders; I think we’re a decent shot of beating them. We usually step up against the Storm, but they are out of our league, so I’m expecting a closer-than-expected loss.

I wish the weststigers could be pretenders just like the rabbits

They lost to the Panthers 56-12, and the Storm 50-0; they are not in the same class. Having said that, I would love to be a finals-regular like Souths.

All you say is true but as you know they will finish in the 8
and tigers 10 years in a row no finals . In a 16 team competition where half make the finals it’s just so frustrating and disappointing

There’s a lot of people saying Benji should be nowhere near the side this or next year as a player.His position is there for anyone good enough to take it away from him and yet we still wait.I’m guessing that’s Benjis. fault as well

Why are we even talking about a player who is no longer with the club,and getting hot and bothered
Isn’t it time everyone moves on from Benji

@Magpie1969 said in A crucial period for Madge...:

It’s not just us. 5 coaches shown the door this season must be some sort of record. Still believe Maguire is our answer but he needs to adapt a game plan suitable to the players available. Also needs to fix the right hand defence and tackle 5 options.

Agree with your thoughts except the one on Maguire I was a believer but not anymore.I don’t know if the rumour of him and the cowboys has had an impact on the players or it’s just him .I know the players we have are not up to scratch but the coach has to get the best out of what he has and right now I am not seeing any improvement just the opposite

For mine the most pleasing thing about today was the depth we now look to have, not just depth but good quality
replacements first time for a long time

@steve-o said in The next two weeks....:

Rabbitohs are pretenders; I think we’re a decent shot of beating them. We usually step up against the Storm, but they are out of our league, so I’m expecting a closer-than-expected loss.

I wish the weststigers could be pretenders just like the rabbits

So it’s the assistants fault we went so bad this season .Player support was high imagine how we whould of played if support for Maguire
Was not high

The type of players you try to recruit when you can’t recruit

@tilllindemann said in Madge Maguire - Mega Thread:

@yeahcaz said in Madge Maguire - Mega Thread:

@tilllindemann said in Madge Maguire - Mega Thread:

@avocadoontoast said in Madge Maguire - Mega Thread:

@tilllindemann said in Madge Maguire - Mega Thread:

@avocadoontoast said in Madge Maguire - Mega Thread:

we had enough to offer Latrell over $1m last season

We would have had enough to offer 3 Latrells $3m without the cap constraints.

And due to how constrained we were, if we did land Latrell the rest of the squad would have been filled with minimum wagers - definitely no Doueihi, no Lucy, no Laurie, no Ken Maumolo. Latrell can be a bludger at times - and any game he didn’t turn up we would have been flogged.

We could have $10m and it wouldn’t make a difference. Players don’t want to play for Maguire. I wouldn’t want to.

It’s just a myth that people take as true because it is repeated so much on here. The vast majority of players who have played with him, here or elsewhere, say it is rubbish. Our recruiting is at least as good under Madge as his predecessors, and I would argue better.

Well it’s clearly not a myth just on here because it’s now being paraded in the media. Wether or not that story about Addo carr is true, there’s people who will think it is .

Would love to hear your argument on madges good recruitments…

Doueihi, Laurie, Stefano, Hastings are all excellent signings, definitely better than Ivan’s signings and with much higher ceilings.

At the price he was signed for, James Roberts was definitely a signing that was worth the gamble. Joe Offa I would say was a pretty decent signing too.

All good signings and yet we are sliding down the ladder.
Good recruitment majority of players backing Maguire,and team playing rubbish. So who or what is the issue it can’t just be 3/4 players

@spartan117 said in Madge Maguire - Mega Thread:

@yeahcaz said in Madge Maguire - Mega Thread:

@spartan117 said in Madge Maguire - Mega Thread:

@magpie1969 said in Madge Maguire - Mega Thread:

I look at physical evidence and for last 3 years WT defence and attack has regressed. No line speed, no structure in attack and what 5th tackle option. Hail Mary and wish for the best. I don’t like sacking coaches but Maguire on the evidence available plus lack of ability to attract top talent to WT means he has to go asap. Seems not up with the current games trends.

If Bellamy came here he would be doing almost exactly what Madge is trying to do.

He has let the rabble rousers and deadwood go.

Maguire is 1 Man standing in the face of 15 Yer plus of largely Garbage.

Next year is gonna be worse with or without Madge as we have the youngest Ave age of any team in the NRL .

We need to stick solid with him for the next 2 years. This panic cant continue!

Stick with him and this roster and we are guaranteed the spoon next season. How stupid would we look if we had the chance to get rid of him now and then we keep him next year and we finish last because the roster is the same and our best player could miss half the comp. just bite the bullet now, he’s absolutely no chance of seeing out his last 2 years

I think we will be last regardless.

Then we have to start all over again… Another 2-3 year rebuild.

The Tigers have been inconsistent for the most of the last 15 years.

Why do we have to start over again we supposedly have so many gun juniors coming through,what difference whould a new coach make to them .Or are you saying all the players that Maguire signed or re-signed bar 3 or 4 of them are not up to nrl standard

@fade-to-black said in Madge Maguire - Mega Thread:

@dwight-schrute said in Madge Maguire - Mega Thread:

@jirskyr said in Madge Maguire - Mega Thread:

After 3 years of gradually slipping performances

Moot point
Bellamy would have 3 years of improvement due to systems and processes that he would put in place.
Bellamy’s players wouldn’t be a confused rabble after 3 years.

Would Bellamy have done that much better being handicapped by the salary cap and overpaid useless players who don’t want to put in? He most likely would have dropped those players at least but dropping Brooks, Mbye and Nofo only means you are replacing them with Madden, Cini, Hoffman etc who despite limited chances have shown that they aren’t going to set the world on fire in first grade unfortunately. Madge has been hamstrung in a huge way during his tenure.

Hamstrung maybe but what reason is there for not getting the best out of players and getting the team to improve.
9th, 11th, 13th, is he hamstrung in that area to

@jadtiger said in An incredibly poorly coached team...:

@the_third said in An incredibly poorly coached team...:

@851 said in An incredibly poorly coached team...:

@tigerpower said in An incredibly poorly coached team...:

@truetiger said in An incredibly poorly coached team...:

@elleryhanley said in An incredibly poorly coached team...:

He actually essentially blamed injuries and our “11 players out” for today’s performance. Unbelievable.

Dogs had guys who may well never play NRL again, and more out than us…and had won twice all year…and have no attack…and rookies in their spine…

Madge is doing the worst thing possible now. He is acting in self preservation, rather than doing what is best for the team and players. He takes zero accountability.

Unbelievable. That will do me for 2022.

Have a nice break…but understand that the team today had fringe RESERVE GRADERS playing…if AD ,Laurie Mbye,JTJ,BJ,AJ had played it would at least had NRL and rep players playing…big difference…its what happens when you only have kids and ressies as back up…

We were playing the worst team in the comp that ha only won TWO games all year.

That point seems lost on the Madge lovers, the Dogs concede over 30 points a game, we were camped on their line for 4 and 5 sets and couldn’t score a point

agree, but I doubt the gameplay was inside balls and kick to the big guy. playmakers look at what’s happening and make it happen. Benji would have got us points today and a win. But we went for Brooks

Wrong,Benji would just have been a massive hole to be exploited

Yeah because there hasn’t been any holes to be exploited this season

@truetiger said in An incredibly poorly coached team...:

@goanna57 said in An incredibly poorly coached team...:

@truetiger said in An incredibly poorly coached team...:

@bathursttiger1 said in An incredibly poorly coached team...:

@truetiger said in An incredibly poorly coached team...:

The title should read…

“An incredible poor performance from some very highly paid NRL players”

Only problem TT is that most of the players aren’t NRL standard.

And thats been the problem mate…Brooks,Noffa,Talau for starters and the head honchos just love them…

TT just what is Maguire’s job

To coach an NRL team…he has kids he is developing and they just arent up to the standard…give him Storms roster and see what he can do…

So it’s not to at a minimum get the team to be improving and playing as team . So Maguire’s job is to just get the accolades when they win. TT I respect your right to have an opinion but in Maguire I think you are defending the indefensible

@truetiger said in An incredibly poorly coached team...:

@bathursttiger1 said in An incredibly poorly coached team...:

@truetiger said in An incredibly poorly coached team...:

The title should read…

“An incredible poor performance from some very highly paid NRL players”

Only problem TT is that most of the players aren’t NRL standard.

And thats been the problem mate…Brooks,Noffa,Talau for starters and the head honchos just love them…

TT just what is Maguire’s job

@truetiger said in An incredibly poorly coached team...:

The title should read…

“An incredible poor performance from some very highly paid NRL players”

And one highly paid coach

@harvey said in Michael Maguire should be our new coach:

@supercoach said in Michael Maguire should be our new coach:

@harvey said in Michael Maguire should be our new coach:

Needs to go, but he is not the only one.

Nofa can move with him, along with Joe O.

I have been saying all year that his bench rotation is terrible, today proved it. Blore & Tuilagi were out on their feet, Madge left them out there while Amone got splinters.

Bad roster with a worse coach

Today’s bench rotation was stuffed due injuries, and Joe O has a bigger dig than most…but the effort today reflected a team that had lost the coach and what he was trying to achieve. So we must move on with a new coach

Players were forced to play out of position and play longer minutes due to injuries. The fact that we had a fresh man on the bench and players that could hardly walk on the field was due to the coaches inability to read the game, and adapt to what he could see.

Can someone explain to me what Madge is good at as a coach?

Based on today it is not:

• motivation
• tactics
• game management
• selection
• talent identification
• fitness
• structures

I am seriously trying to work out what it is he brings

A losing culture that’s the best I can come up with