@TrueTiger said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@TrueTiger said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@Tiger_Steve said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@hobbo1 said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@Tiger_Steve said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@Roar_Power said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@hank37w said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@Roar_Power said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@hank37w said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@Earl said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@hank37w said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

Its like employing a financial planner
They are there to help you get the best return on your money

Financial planners being there to get you the best return is actually the complete opposite way to the way the industry works. Financial planners are there to take money out of your hand and offer nothing at all in return.

Warren Buffet agrees with me.

Just for the record, that is not my quote, I was responding to that quote.

My quote was,

“As long as we don’t employ Elijah’s financial planner.
Some of them don’t want to return your money.”

So I guess, along with Warren Buffet we both agree on the usefulness of financial planners.

As a financial planner, thats a little offensive. There are plenty of good ones out there that you don’t hear about. Its only the rogues that get the attention - all industries have them.

Sorry if I offended you, and I would agree that there are good and and bad operators in every industry, and I take it that you are one of the good ones in your industry.

I understand that there has been a bit of a shake up in the industry in recent times relating to disclosure of commissions and requirements to put clients’ interests first and for financial advisors to disclose any conflicts of interest.

However, various inquires and Banking Royal Commissions haven’t done a lot to enhance the reputation of financial advisors.

My own personal experience with 2 or 3 financial advisors that I have had initial meetings with haven’t really given me the confidence to part with the 2 or 3 thousand dollars that they wanted to come up with a plan for my particular situation.

Thats fair enough Hank. The Royal Commission has started raising the bar ie. degree required etc which can only be good for the industry.

Many people are skeptical about advisers for good reason but hopefully that changes once the riff raff has exited.

Financial Planner (and my naivety) cost me $250K after investing in Great Southern and Timbercorp investments. I was lucky - some others committed suicide. Good and bad in every industry- I found the worst grub on the planet

Wow … that’s a pretty horrific ordeal to go through mate …
You must have a well paid job in order to recover …

Went overseas and earned good money. Got me out of trouble. But cost me my marriage and a lot of mental stress I can tell you. Remarried and building a new house now - means a lot in so many ways mate. It’s been a journey

I went through the breast cancer crap with my ex…the chemo and therapy mixed with different drugs got the better of both of us…It really hurts when you personally know your doing your best but end up with a kick in the guts.I have remained very amicable because I know what she went through…in a word horrific…However,I almost wanted to drive my ute over the Macquarie pass because I was in a state of confusion and was hurting…Now I try and keep a sensible head on my shoulders because I know I would hurt family members in more ways than one by doing what I wanted to do…the WTs are my real oak in my life that helps me converse with my forum buddies as well as give me an interest in life…If I get to meet some one I hope she loves the WTs as much as I do…
Theres always hope I suppose…

Sorry about hijacking this thread guys…

Nothing to be sorry about Mate.

We’ve all probably been through hard times, but your particular situation has been really tough, but it looks like you are bouncing back and keeping a positive attitude.

Good to see you spending time on the forum as it sound like it’s a good outlet for you and that you are getting enjoyment from it.

Don’t ever be afraid to say what you think or what you feel on this forum as I believe that when it comes down to it the vast majority of people on here actually give a damn, even if we don’t always agree on everything.

Hang in there and here’s hoping that 2021 is a better year for everyone on this forum and for the Mighty Wests Tigers.

Wasn’t too keen on Naden at first, believing he had issues that we didn’t really need to deal with on top of all the other issues we have.

On reflection, I guess if we got him at the right price the risks may very well be worth it, once again, only if he came at the right price.

Then something came to me, and that being that one of the reasons Naden is not playing first grade can be attributed to Penrith signing Paul Momorovski.

Now I’ve always rated Momo but many on this forum have never really appreciated Momo’s smarts or the contributions he has made to this team, some of those contributions being while he wasn’t even playing for us.

Think about it.

Thanks to Momo, we get Harry Grant in 2020.

Thanks to Momo, we get Daine Laurie for 2021.

If we get Brent Naden, then Momo has one way or another made a contribution towards that.

I would go so far as to say that Momo has been one of the most valuable players we have had, even when he wasn’t playing for us.

@Eca said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

Lol… wiki
Stephen Crichton is a Samoan professional rugby league footballer who plays as a centre for the Penrith Panthers in the NRL. Crichton recently signed a contract with the Wests Tigers until the end of 2024. Wikipedia

…after walking away from a lucrative hand shake deal with highly respected NRL coach Ivan Cleary.

Cleary was heard to be muttering, “whatever happened to honesty and integrity in contract negotiations”

Crichton was seen to be blowing kisses at his former coach as he boarded a chauffeured limousine to attend a nearby golf course for a round of golf with Wests Tigers Chairman Lee Hagipantelis.

I’ve mentioned a number of times that Momo is a smart footy player.
He’s scored a few tries that that didn’t look all that fancy but still involved quite a bit of work that a hell of a lot of other players would not have been able to pull off.
Cairnstigers mentioned that goal that Momo missed, but as disappointed as he would have been, managed to keep his head up and got on with it.
Plenty of other players would have been badly affected by that and would have had their heads down and their confidence rocked.
I think Momo is smart and mentally tough which makes him a keeper in my book.

@cochise said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@hank37w said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@TrueTiger said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@TrueTiger said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@Tiger_Steve said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@hobbo1 said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@Tiger_Steve said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@Roar_Power said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@hank37w said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@Roar_Power said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@hank37w said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@Earl said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@hank37w said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

Its like employing a financial planner
They are there to help you get the best return on your money

Financial planners being there to get you the best return is actually the complete opposite way to the way the industry works. Financial planners are there to take money out of your hand and offer nothing at all in return.

Warren Buffet agrees with me.

Just for the record, that is not my quote, I was responding to that quote.

My quote was,

“As long as we don’t employ Elijah’s financial planner.
Some of them don’t want to return your money.”

So I guess, along with Warren Buffet we both agree on the usefulness of financial planners.

As a financial planner, thats a little offensive. There are plenty of good ones out there that you don’t hear about. Its only the rogues that get the attention - all industries have them.

Sorry if I offended you, and I would agree that there are good and and bad operators in every industry, and I take it that you are one of the good ones in your industry.

I understand that there has been a bit of a shake up in the industry in recent times relating to disclosure of commissions and requirements to put clients’ interests first and for financial advisors to disclose any conflicts of interest.

However, various inquires and Banking Royal Commissions haven’t done a lot to enhance the reputation of financial advisors.

My own personal experience with 2 or 3 financial advisors that I have had initial meetings with haven’t really given me the confidence to part with the 2 or 3 thousand dollars that they wanted to come up with a plan for my particular situation.

Thats fair enough Hank. The Royal Commission has started raising the bar ie. degree required etc which can only be good for the industry.

Many people are skeptical about advisers for good reason but hopefully that changes once the riff raff has exited.

Financial Planner (and my naivety) cost me $250K after investing in Great Southern and Timbercorp investments. I was lucky - some others committed suicide. Good and bad in every industry- I found the worst grub on the planet

Wow … that’s a pretty horrific ordeal to go through mate …
You must have a well paid job in order to recover …

Went overseas and earned good money. Got me out of trouble. But cost me my marriage and a lot of mental stress I can tell you. Remarried and building a new house now - means a lot in so many ways mate. It’s been a journey

I went through the breast cancer crap with my ex…the chemo and therapy mixed with different drugs got the better of both of us…It really hurts when you personally know your doing your best but end up with a kick in the guts.I have remained very amicable because I know what she went through…in a word horrific…However,I almost wanted to drive my ute over the Macquarie pass because I was in a state of confusion and was hurting…Now I try and keep a sensible head on my shoulders because I know I would hurt family members in more ways than one by doing what I wanted to do…the WTs are my real oak in my life that helps me converse with my forum buddies as well as give me an interest in life…If I get to meet some one I hope she loves the WTs as much as I do…
Theres always hope I suppose…

Sorry about hijacking this thread guys…

Nothing to be sorry about Mate.

We’ve all probably been through hard times, but your particular situation has been really tough, but it looks like you are bouncing back and keeping a positive attitude.

Good to see you spending time on the forum as it sound like it’s a good outlet for you and that you are getting enjoyment from it.

Don’t ever be afraid to say what you think or what you feel on this forum as I believe that when it comes down to it the vast majority of people on here actually give a damn, even if we don’t always agree on everything.

Hang in there and here’s hoping that 2021 is a better year for everyone on this forum and for the Mighty Wests Tigers.

I agree with this fully and feel that is a very good point for @Blaze @supercoach @TrueTiger and @tigersteve . I have dealt with some demons over the last 5 years and this forum has been a source of support for me during that time. There are so many people I disagree with regularly on here but these same people knowingly and unknowingly helped me through my darkest days. This place is home and a place of great support for me.

Really pleased that you have come out and said that because I wasn’t all that sure how my comments were going to be received.

I was really only going off my own personal experience and have found that I have been spending a lot more time on this forum in recent times as I have found it to be a great escape from the events of this year that have really had a profound effect on my life and I would imagine the life of many others on this forum.

Many thanks to those that put in the hours to make this forum possible and also to the many contributors that make this the great place that it is.

Yeah, Wests Tigers can do that to you.

Been thinking for a while that JAC was a dog and today has confirmed it.
Anyway, hope Trent Barrett is able to match the success that he had at Manly, which thinking about it would be a real slap in the face.
(pun intended)

It never ceases to amaze me how Indigenous players want to go to Souffs to “play with their mates.”
I find this especially amazing when you look at the appalling way Souffs treat them when it comes to contracts.
Just looking at the way over the years that they have tried to off load or shop around players like Dane Gagai, Alex Johnstone and now Jimmy the Jet. In the past there were players like Nathan Merritt that were very loyal servants who were also treated with very little respect when they were no longer wanted. Really, why would you want to play for the scum and just looking around at some of their toothless supporters it’s painfully obvious that at least the chooks have got a decent dentist.

Does everyone know or even consider the fact that Liddle’s last injury that put him out for an extended period was a freak accident and was actually the result of friendly fire.

I’m pretty confident that Jacob will go from strength to strength this season and was very impressed with the way that he came back last season after such a long time out.

From the times that I have seen him in the coaches box with Madge I have formed the opinion that the coach thinks very highly of him and if Jake Simpkin is anywhere near as good as some on here keep saying, then I think we have #9 pretty well covered.

As I have previously stated the only way it gets better is if we can get Cameron McInnes over here because I don’t see any way that Harry ever makes it back here.

As highly as I rate the block of cheese, I think McInnes is a more practical and much more realistic option for us as a #13 and cover for #9 as required.

I think we looked our best when Liddle came on with his sharp passing and harry was still on scheming away.

@kiwitiger said in NRL 360:

@vince-farrar said in NRL 360:

@tigers79 said in NRL 360:

@demps said in NRL 360:

@jedi_tiger said in NRL 360:

@demps said in NRL 360:

@hobbo1 said in NRL 360:

@dwight-schrute said in NRL 360:

@hobbo1 said in NRL 360:

@jadtiger said in NRL 360:

@cktiger said in NRL 360:

@tigers79 said in NRL 360:

Have a feeling its going to either Anasta or Ginnane to replace Ikin

Gee I hope its not Anasta !!

Hopefully not Ginnane and his grating voice… plus the way he uses superlatives in his calls in an effort to make himself sound intelligent.
eg ‘That was a majestic tackle.’ … with a long emphasis on the ‘majestic’.

Ginnane is even worse than Hadley and i honestly never thought i would be able to say that

I must be in the minority
I like Ginnane

Hadleys a Wanker and I’m not talking Richard Hadley

I like Ginnane too.

I thought he was good also when he hosted 360 not that long ago

He’s goofy and has an annoying voice.
I won’t watch 360 if he’s on it.
He doesn’t have the charisma to succeed.

I won’t prey for his downfall though.

Ginnane a deadset muppet

Agree, not a fan.
I don’t think he can carry a show and if he can, I am sure the fans aren’t going to be able to tolerate that voice.

Ikin is a huge loss for foxsports.
Their roster is very poor imo.

Gasnier was great and they didn’t renew his contract.

The super Saturday crew are so unlikeable.
Corey Parker as well.
Cronk is the worst.

I like Matty John’s and his crew though but that’s a different show.

I agree Fox Sports team is very lacklasture atm , parker is annoying and has a bronocs bias every time is talks . Pfft Anasta cant believe he has the hosting gig for the pre/post game shows lately

I dont mind ginnuane ( please stop saying ’ GOODBYE" when the player has only fallen over line to score) but that has alot more to do with what other options could be out there

Cronk just doesnt stop talking

I like James Graham though!!

I like James Graham too but they’d need an interpreter sitting in the chair next to him I struggle to understand him quite often.

@vince-farrar said in NRL 360:

@tigers79 said in NRL 360:

@demps said in NRL 360:

@jedi_tiger said in NRL 360:

@demps said in NRL 360:

@hobbo1 said in NRL 360:

@dwight-schrute said in NRL 360:

@hobbo1 said in NRL 360:

@jadtiger said in NRL 360:

@cktiger said in NRL 360:

@tigers79 said in NRL 360:

Have a feeling its going to either Anasta or Ginnane to replace Ikin

Gee I hope its not Anasta !!

Hopefully not Ginnane and his grating voice… plus the way he uses superlatives in his calls in an effort to make himself sound intelligent.
eg ‘That was a majestic tackle.’ … with a long emphasis on the ‘majestic’.

Ginnane is even worse than Hadley and i honestly never thought i would be able to say that

I must be in the minority
I like Ginnane

Hadleys a Wanker and I’m not talking Richard Hadley

I like Ginnane too.

I thought he was good also when he hosted 360 not that long ago

He’s goofy and has an annoying voice.
I won’t watch 360 if he’s on it.
He doesn’t have the charisma to succeed.

I won’t prey for his downfall though.

Ginnane a deadset muppet

Agree, not a fan.
I don’t think he can carry a show and if he can, I am sure the fans aren’t going to be able to tolerate that voice.

Ikin is a huge loss for foxsports.
Their roster is very poor imo.

Gasnier was great and they didn’t renew his contract.

The super Saturday crew are so unlikeable.
Corey Parker as well.
Cronk is the worst.

I like Matty John’s and his crew though but that’s a different show.

I agree Fox Sports team is very lacklasture atm , parker is annoying and has a bronocs bias every time is talks . Pfft Anasta cant believe he has the hosting gig for the pre/post game shows lately

I dont mind ginnuane ( please stop saying ’ GOODBYE" when the player has only fallen over line to score) but that has alot more to do with what other options could be out there

Cronk just doesnt stop talking

I like James Graham though!!

I like James Graham too but they’d need an interpreter sitting in the chair next to him I struggle to understand him quite often.

James Graham should of been booted off all TV the night he made excuses for wife beaters. Thank goodness Luke Lewis was opposite him on that show

He seemed to recover some sort of respectability, which I didn’t think would be possible, after trying to bite off Billy Slater’s ear in the 2012 Grand Final.

Granted, it has been a while.

@hsvjones said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@bagnf05 said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@kafta said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

All this talk about leadership ( Finucane) sounds like last year with Tamou.
Who is to say it wont turn out the same way.

Come on guys, are we so scarred from Packer and Reynolds that we can’t tell good from bad anymore.

• he’s played in 7 grand finals (so far)
• Captains the Melbourne Storm
• who should have put 80 on us last week
• scores tries pretty regularly
• current NSW origin player in a very good team
• absolute rock in defense which is our problem
• was pursued by Belly ache
• would change the narrative that WT can’t attract premier players

I get he’s not a young dynamic attacking weapon but I’d rather get beat in a close defensive struggle than flogged by 50.

Perfectly said… We should be at his managers door ASAP.

We would probably require the assistance of the Riot Squad to break down the door.

@bagnf05 said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@cochise said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@bagnf05 said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@kafta said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

All this talk about leadership ( Finucane) sounds like last year with Tamou.
Who is to say it wont turn out the same way.

Come on guys, are we so scarred from Packer and Reynolds that we can’t tell good from bad anymore.

• he’s played in 7 grand finals (so far)
• Captains the Melbourne Storm
• who should have put 80 on us last week
• scores tries pretty regularly
• current NSW origin player in a very good team
• absolute rock in defense which is our problem
• was pursued by Belly ache
• would change the narrative that WT can’t attract premier players

I get he’s not a young dynamic attacking weapon but I’d rather get beat in a close defensive struggle than flogged by 50.

Close defensive struggles don’t exist anymore.

Melbourne conceding 2 tries per game.

We scored 3, how good are we?

@geo said in NRL 360:

Frank Grimes

I thought Ikin was leaving.

I am a bit confused as Paul Kent states,

“Maguire arrived at the club in 2019 turfing out some top-line talent to bring his own players in.”

Who were the top line players that were turfed that would have made a difference to us at the moment?

I can think of a couple of reasonable players, but no one that you would call top line that have been released since Madge has been here that would be making us a contender at the moment.

@hobbo1 said in NRL 360:

At least Buzz talks crap

And Hooper doesn’t, yeah right.

@tigertownsfs said in Has Valandys ruined the game?:

Just revert to the rules last year. They also need to take the game back off the refs. Maybe there needs to be a captains challenge to 6 again to try and hold them to account.

If they did that the game might take 3 hours.

Looking at it a bit more seriously, what I find interesting is how the Captain’s Challenge has shown up the number of bad calls that the referees do make.

I don’t know what percentage of challenges are successful, but I am sure that it is high enough to indicate that if 6 agains were able to be challenged there would also be a considerable number shown up as being unwarranted.

I am not setting out to be critical of referees because I understand that they are only human and have to make split second decisions on the run and it’s certainly not a position many of us would like to be in.

I am not advocating that the Captain’s challenge should be increased to any great extent as it would no doubt lead to frivolous challenges and deliberate attempts at slowing down the game, but I do think that there is a case for there being more than 1 per game.

@hobbo1 said in Has Valandys ruined the game?:

@tigerap said in Has Valandys ruined the game?:

80 points in the Manly v Titans game, 82 points in the Tigers v Storm game, blowout scores every weekend. Has Valandys and his rule changes ruined the game ?…he says he wants to introduce more entertainment in the game, I don’t think so. I preferred the tight close games of the past years….the current game has become glorified touch…

Manly had 10 consecutive sets at one stage …

His next change will be to bring back the unlimited tackle rule. Sometimes it looks like it’s already back in.

@spud_murphy said in Completely unacceptable: ramifications:

@bbobb said in Completely unacceptable: ramifications:

I remember hearing either Sterlo or Joey saying that with good teams, there is vey little difference between their best and their worst - we aren’t a good team.

There is very little difference between our best and our worst either, it’s just on the wrong end of the scale!

A lot of the time it’s off the scale.

@happy_tiger said in Completely unacceptable: ramifications:

@kiwitiger said in Completely unacceptable: ramifications:

@happy_tiger said in Completely unacceptable: ramifications:

@tigervinnie said in Completely unacceptable: ramifications:

Huge disclaimer first: In no way am I making excuses for last night, that was possibly the worst I have seen not only ourselves play but any team for as long as I can remember. Embarrassed to be a tigers fan is an understatement.

however, is it time the NRL has to seriously consider the make up of this competition along with he product that is currently on display?

Nobody wants to watch games like this…over in 10mins. We are seeing score score lines grow bigger and bigger each week, the divide between top 4-6 and everyone else is alarming and quite frankly a terrible look on the game. Im a die hard footy fan but the only games even close to being enjoyable over the last few years are bottom teams playing each other and this is only because the score lines are SOMETIMES closer (however quality of each team is usually terrible). We are only half way through the comp and we can probably all guess who the grand finalists will be.

Does the NRL have to accept the rule changes, crackdowns, bias refereeing is simply making this game unwatchable. Does the salary cap need a revision? the unbalance in quality is simply insane. Do they possibly need to be giving leg ups to teams who finish out of the 8 the year prior to hopefully rotate success throughout the competition?

Or is it a case of the bottom teams just need to ‘adapt better’? We hear that a lot but it’s always the powerful big clubs that seem to be able to ‘adapt’ to anything, so why is it the others can’t?

Surely the NRL has to make changes and somehow prop up the struggling clubs…I understand how bias that is but the game is simply terrible at the moment.

Why should the top teams get blamed for getting better and better …

Why don’t we improve or die …

Think of us as a business (which we are ) why do we deserve help when we continually make the same mistakes year after year after year …NRL should give us time frame …and if we can’t make the 8 …kick us out or relocate us

Agree. Was watching “Fire in Babylon” a couple of nights ago again. A couple of players were talking about a game early in WCC where the WI were bowled out for 46. An angry Kerry Packer walks in to the WI dressing room and tells them Qantas 023 leaves Aussie everyday and if they don’t improve they will be on it. They end up working hard, become fit, and don’t loose another game in WCC in the next 3 years.

We have to look to improve…

Its crap KT …teams don’t get 66 put on them …I was cheering the Storm on to 92 for the ultimate embarrassment …rock bottom can’t come fast enough as far as I am concerned

Bellyache would be livid that they let us score 3 tries.