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@jirskyr said in Josh Addo Carr Contract Discussion:

@tiga4eva said in Josh Addo Carr Contract Discussion:

I don’t know how the Club can explain to members we had between $1.5 and $1.7m available to spend, and are only able to promote development players. No amount of spin could justify that,given the release of Marsters and Matterson. I’m still praying for something favourable

Pretty easy to explain actually.

Firstly we’ve signed 2 players - Big Lucy and Stefano, obv the latter for 2021 at this stage.

Marsters released 10/Oct/19
Matterson released 31/Oct/19
Matulino medically retired 31/Oct/19

The rep season finished on 16/Nov/19, with the Kangaroos playing their last test on 02/Nov/19.

That whole period, up to today 13/Jan/20, is 10.57 weeks. Leaving in the rep season but accounting for at least the 2 weeks of Christmas and NY that’s basically 8 weeks. Taking out the rep season, i.e. your window for test match players, you only get 6 weeks.

You therefore are having to line up players who are willing and able to move clubs in a 6-8 week period, because the Tigers couldn’t guarantee this cap space would be available - Marsters had to be taken on, Mats had to be rubber-stamped and Matterson they did not want to lose.

I said this before, since 01/Nov/19 only 16 players have joined new NRL clubs for 2020:
Matterson (3 years)
Enari Tuala (1 year)
Isaac Luke (1 year)
Val Holmes (6 years)
Kurt Capewell (2 years)
Brodie Croft (3 years)
Merrin (2 years)
Big Lucy (3 years)
Ryley Jacks (1 year)
Cameron King (1 year)
Zane Tetevano (2 years)
Gehamat Shibasaki (3 years)
Brock Lamb (2 years development)
Brayden Wiliame (2 years)
Jonus Pearson (2 years)
Tyrell Fuimaono (2 years)

Assuming you add Latrell this month, you honestly have 4 “bigger-name” players taking on new deals for 2020 - Latrell, Croft, Holmes and Matterson. Only 2 of those are legitimate top-tier footballers.

The rest of the signatures are middle-ground to bit-player at most.

Looking specifically at the details - Croft was a direct trade Storm to Broncos, Holmes only ever spoke with Sharks and Cowboys (according to accounts), Latrell we were right in the mix for and Matterson we had to lose.

I really don’t know what you expect the club to do, it’s like the cap space is burning a hole in your pocket. The point has already been made, last time we had a chunk of cap space available (arguably every time we’ve had a chunk of space available, casting back to 2000) we’ve spent it very poorly.

It has been 8 WEEKS. 8 weeks including Christmas. We went hard for Latrell, reportedly made an offer for Arrow and signed two other footballers in that period. Latrell wants to be at Souths and so does Arrow. Nobody else signed those players, just Souths.

Just because there’s cap space you don’t have to rush out to spend it, and it’s unrealistic to expect a raft of signings in the offseason. Sometimes the offseason has horse trade, sometimes it doesn’t, depending on who is available, what pieces are being shuffled around and what players/clubs are actually willing to talk terms for 2021.

The most common sense post in the last 10 weeks

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@gallagher said in Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion:

@hodgo said in Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion:

@gallagher said in Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion:

@hodgo said in Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion:

I still don’t get why people are whinging for the first time in forever we were linked to a huge name. Didnt get him oh well bit we are in the talk which means we arent as far away as people think.

It’s no huge achievement. 2 players wanted out and one medically retired freed cap space. There was no great cap managment strategy.

i know your always super positive but when was the last time we were mentioned with a genuine superstar

The answer to that should tell you why peope are whinging.

Why because finally its started happening.

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@gallagher said in Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion:

@hodgo said in Latrell Mitchell Contract Discussion:

I still don’t get why people are whinging for the first time in forever we were linked to a huge name. Didnt get him oh well bit we are in the talk which means we arent as far away as people think.

It’s no huge achievement. 2 players wanted out and one medically retired freed cap space. There was no great cap managment strategy.

i know your always super positive but when was the last time we were mentioned with a genuine superstar

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I still don’t get why people are whinging for the first time in forever we were linked to a huge name. Didnt get him oh well bit we are in the talk which means we arent as far away as people think.

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@Harvey said in Alex Johnston Contract Discussion:

Any effort to sign Johnston now is the definition of stupidity. He is on good money and will expect similar with a long term contract.

He is off contract next year, and given a year in reserve grade (he will not make south’s top 17 without injuries) he will be available for near enough to minimum contract.

Do u know how much I saw 300k which Is a bargain but don’t know how reliable

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Ok we lost alot in matto. But matulino was ok not really killing it. Farah could barely stand the 2nd half of the year and marsters had his worse year as a tiger imo.
We have replace matto with Lucy. I’m not saying he is as good but he is definately more dynamic imo.
We replaced a decent mats with musgrove, stefy, and hopefully a fit packer. If musgrove or stefy kick on we are better off imo.
Momo was probably our best back behind our halves in the last half dozen games until he was moved out of centre.
Hooker to me is the enigma, I like the look of Walters. We loose alot of smarts but the youth injection could ?? Be good.

Fullback is also a concern for me. I love thommo but i think the more he played the more he struggled. Towards the end of the year he stopped supporting the middle etc. He also dropped some balls with nobody near him. If we jag AJ or one of the youngest come through it would def help.

Added to all that we still have a mountain of coin and a coach looking for.a gem in the UK. I dont think we are done yet.

I think it’s a net minus but a fit aloai packer and a few players improving with the addition of a few players etc we will be in the 8 hunt imo.

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@cqtiger said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

@hodgo said in Signing Suggestions & Rumours:

just that every post he puts up has 15 people talking crap tyhat id prefer not to have to read as it adds nop value to the conversations

Really? This person is the ONLY one who’s posts add no value to the conversation?

I actually don’t mind his stuff fact or fiction what doesn’t interest me is everyone dropping comments saying he’s an idiot etc

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just that every post he puts up has 15 people talking crap tyhat id prefer not to have to read as it adds nop value to the conversations

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can we start a thread for wokesmokes stuff then people can go there if they want to and if you dont want to dont read it type thing.

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I think he played his best footy at centre, in saying that we were a heaps better defensive side with him at fullback. I think Walters will suprise a few people at 9 this year